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How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? #193490 01/14/09 04:51 PM 01/14/09 04:51 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut 5126brl No more OP top fuel
5126brl No more OP top fuel Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut	What are you using for A TOW RIG? enclosed or open trailer ? brand of truck and specs? Yes I am Bored

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193491 01/14/09 05:01 PM 01/14/09 05:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,867 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad Still Posting A Lot
bigdad Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,867 S.E. South Dakota !	Dodge 3500 dually 30 foot enclosed 4947851-2003_0101newtruck0803080004.JPG (402 downloads) The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6

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Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? #193493 01/14/09 05:06 PM 01/14/09 05:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 240 Y-town ohio 68valiant68 enthusiast
68valiant68 enthusiast Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 240 Y-town ohio	I tow with a 06 ext cab f 150 fx4 with the 5.4, tow a 24 ft enclosed trailer

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193494 01/14/09 05:07 PM 01/14/09 05:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	2001 F 150 5.4 triton supercab. 15'Open trailor @ 1500 with a 2900# car., for a total pull load of 4400' 1995 F 150 5.0 long bed, old tow rig. still use it though. mike

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Sport440] #193495 01/14/09 05:09 PM 01/14/09 05:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi. J JAKE68 pro stock
JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	2006 dodge 1500 4x4 hemi, 28ft. enclosed loaded #10000. JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193496 01/14/09 05:13 PM 01/14/09 05:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,269 Morrow, OH markz528 master
markz528 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,269 Morrow, OH	Open trailer with 2000 Ram 360 1/2 ton. Underpowered but tows okay. 67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: markz528] #193497 01/14/09 05:23 PM 01/14/09 05:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,126 Abilene,Texas R ram87 super stock
ram87 super stock R Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,126 Abilene,Texas	I towed my 20' open trailer and '87 Ram with a 2002 regular cab Ram 1500 with a Hemi. Now I tow with a 2006 Ram 1500 quad cab with a Hemi. No problems with either. 4947902-rsmanddak.jpg (378 downloads) Last edited by ram87; 01/14/09 05:53 PM.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193498 01/14/09 05:37 PM 01/14/09 05:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 36 tennessee M mike54 member
mike54 member M Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 36 tennessee	1987 c-20 suburban 350 engine...18 ft. trailer

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193499 01/14/09 05:37 PM 01/14/09 05:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,243 Canada Kam*Kuda master
Kam*Kuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,243 Canada	I tow with a 2005 GMC1/2 ton. Tows fine. My buddy towed with his 2005 3500 Ram. Tows really well with MUCH better fuel economy. . 4947928-cuda-trailer.jpg (609 downloads) 1970 Barracuda Convertible 1968 Satellite Street Strip car 1654.5 Mustang 1955 Land Rover

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193500 01/14/09 05:53 PM 01/14/09 05:53 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I use to tow my 26' enclosed with a 1/2 ton Dodge but I always had good brakes on the trailer... it always pulled fine. Now days I've stepped up in trailer size to a 43' fifth wheel and pull it with a 95 Dodge Cummins 3500 dually 6 speed

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Kam*Kuda] #193501 01/14/09 05:53 PM 01/14/09 05:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ M maximum entropy master
maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	i have no tow rig. i have no trailer. i drive my car to the track. last night i had a dream that i got a dragster, and i was trying to figure out how to drive it to the track. really. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Kam*Kuda] #193502 01/14/09 05:56 PM 01/14/09 05:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 371 Colorado H hemi69cuda enthusiast
hemi69cuda enthusiast H Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 371 Colorado	I tow with a 2003 2500 Dodge Hemi 5sp average 15 to 16 mpg while towing Carl 4947966-DSC01819.JPG (354 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: hemi69cuda] #193503 01/14/09 06:13 PM 01/14/09 06:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 146 michigan tonycpe member
tonycpe member Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 146 michigan	I tow a 24 ft enclosed with a 97 ram 1500, only a 318 c.i. I sure wish I could afford a newer, bigger truck. Old Fogey Racing Ltd.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: tonycpe] #193504 01/14/09 06:20 PM 01/14/09 06:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 299 Sparta, TN M mark42202 enthusiast
mark42202 enthusiast M Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 299 Sparta, TN	18 ft. open with a 2005 long bed Silverado w/ 4.8L. No probs at all and decent (about 17mpg) mileage. www.bountyrace.com www.i40dragway.com

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: tonycpe] #193505 01/14/09 06:20 PM 01/14/09 06:20 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Ram Cummings turbo diesel, 24' enclosed trailer... Pulls great...

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193506 01/14/09 06:30 PM 01/14/09 06:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,753 Gulf Coast of Florida Russ super gas
Russ super gas Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,753 Gulf Coast of Florida	I have a 96 1/2 ton Dodge extended cab,long bed,with a 5.2 Magnum,and have an open 22 ft car hauler.works out great,and the old girl has 160.000 on her 2001 Durango 5.9 Magnum 99 Durango 5.9 Magnum Parting out 99 Durango 5.9,99 Ram 1500 and 98 Ram 1500 5.9 WANTED.Ram Truck,Durango/Dakota parts and parts trucks!!PM Me. GO BUCKS!!!! Go GATORS!!!!

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Russ] #193507 01/14/09 06:35 PM 01/14/09 06:35 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	'75 Dodge Powerwagon 4x4 with fresh '71 4bbl. 360. It towed the 18ft open with ease. 10mpg w/empty trailer, 6-7 mpg fully loaded.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? #193508 01/14/09 07:24 PM 01/14/09 07:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,116 Falconer, NY KatFysh master
KatFysh master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,116 Falconer, NY	'01 1500 4x4 5.9l auto od. 64,500 miles.. When you decide to quit, THAT is the moment when you would've succeeded..

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: KatFysh] #193509 01/14/09 07:45 PM 01/14/09 07:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Been towing for years with this Dakota. 20 foot enclosed gooseneck. The open trailer and the enclosed are converted to gooseneck. Much easier and safer to pull than a tag trailer. Always no matter what you tow with have good trailer brakes that apply slightly ahead of the truck brakes to slow the truck rather than using the tow vehicle to slow the trailer. Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks. But: Don't fix it, if it Works!

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MoparforLife] #193510 01/14/09 08:45 PM 01/14/09 08:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	2002 Dodge ram quad cab,4.7 auto and 3.55 gears.Trailer is open,16 ft weighs in at almost 1800#'s Total towing weight is right at 5400#'s. Tows great. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Chris2581] #193511 01/14/09 09:09 PM 01/14/09 09:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,771 Keymar, MD DusterKid top fuel
DusterKid top fuel Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,771 Keymar, MD	2007 2500 Dodge Ram Hemi...Open trailer, switchin to a 24' box trailer this yr. Gets about 11-13 mpg w/o trailer and 11 with.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: DusterKid] #193512 01/14/09 09:30 PM 01/14/09 09:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL	2000 Dakota R/T. 4948595-Daytona8-30001.jpg (269 downloads) "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193513 01/14/09 09:43 PM 01/14/09 09:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,923 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,923 NC	IMO, It is good to get others experience, but to put it all in context, a lot of info is needed: - Engine size - Truck weight - Trailer and car weight - Rear end gear ratio - Road grade (incline) flat, hills, mountains - Elevation (300 ft, or 9000 ft Rockys) - Fuel mileage while towing - Brake size, what do you think if a Hundai cuts you off and slams on the brakes, down hill...? You might get away with a "small" truck on flat roads, at low speeds, with no traffic. But add some grade (up or down hill), weight, traffic, etc. and the bigger truck with better brakes (and better trailer brakes) pays off. 1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193514 01/14/09 09:46 PM 01/14/09 09:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH B blownzoom440
blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	i use a 2004 Dakota extended cab 4.7 with a draw tight hitch from U-haul that has stabalizer bars on the hitch that lift the front of the trailer.open trailer weighs 1300lbs and car 4,000.i have been using dakota's to haul it sense 1994.my 2004 is an auto w/3.55's and the 94 was a 5.2 5spd stick w/3.91's

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193515 01/14/09 09:54 PM 01/14/09 09:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 644 Owego, NY J JBurch mopar
JBurch mopar J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 644 Owego, NY	I tow a 20 ft open trailer with a 98 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 5.2 and 100K on the clock.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: blownzoom440] #193516 01/14/09 09:55 PM 01/14/09 09:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Haul a load of furniture to BelleFouche SD fro eastern ND and back again. Been all over ND and SD with the rigs. 318 3.55 gear. Most people over drive the rigs and forget that they have a load behind them and get themselves into trouble. Give yourself room and drive accordingly. No different pulling a 10000 lb load with a 6-6500 lb 3/4 ton than 6500 lb load with the 5000 lb 1/2 ton rated trucks. Or many cars towing Airstreams back in the day. Just because the speed limit is 75 doesn't mean you have to drive that fast. I drive 55-60 and feel comfortable there.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #193517 01/14/09 09:58 PM 01/14/09 09:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 916 SE Washington Forest super stock
Forest super stock Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 916 SE Washington	Only advatage mine has over a 3/4 ton is the title. It works but I am shopping for a 3/4 ton diesel. 4948661-Resized413.JPG (247 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Forest] #193518 01/15/09 02:22 AM 01/15/09 02:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	Does a Durango count as 1/2 ton - probably yes. Anyhow here's my experience: Gen 1, 5.9 @5500#: good tow on hilly interstates Gen 2, Hemi @ 5500#: easy tow on hilly interstates Gen 2 Hemi @ 8500#: OK tow with straight hitch and surge brakes. Would be good tow with weight distributing hitch and electric brakes.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: ahy] #193519 01/15/09 02:29 AM 01/15/09 02:29 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 977 Poulsbo, WA ChrisJohnston669 super stock
ChrisJohnston669 super stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 977 Poulsbo, WA	05 cummins 2500 2wd 4door long bed 6spd. 24ft enclosed. Truck has tons of power.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: ChrisJohnston669] #193520 01/15/09 03:06 AM 01/15/09 03:06 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,675 Mi. G-Money1320 top fuel
G-Money1320 top fuel Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,675 Mi.	I tow with a 2007 Ram 4x4 quad cab and a 20' enclosed. It does alright but I need to get the hitch right. Before that I had a 2003 Ram 2 wheel drive quad cab and an open trailer, and before that truck I used the wifes 1995 GMC 4x4 with the small V-8,it was a little underpowered but still managed. All half ton trucks. 416 stroker from Nick at Compu-flow. 11.14 in full street trim. Seems like a new best every time out. 11.06 open headers----so far!!

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: ahy] #193521 01/15/09 03:49 AM 01/15/09 03:49 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,151 Las Vegas A afxcoronet super stock
afxcoronet super stock A Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,151 Las Vegas	Quote: Does a Durango count as 1/2 ton - probably yes. Anyhow here's my experience: Gen 1, 5.9 @5500#: good tow on hilly interstates Gen 2, Hemi @ 5500#: easy tow on hilly interstates Gen 2 Hemi @ 8500#: OK tow with straight hitch and surge brakes. Would be good tow with weight distributing hitch and electric brakes. Thank you, we just got an '08 Durango, V8 non-hemi, came w/ towing package and such even some sort of Electronic sway control, were gonna try towing w/ it a little bit this season, just gotta put the brake controller in it yet. Taking over the World one win light at a time.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #193522 01/15/09 07:57 AM 01/15/09 07:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,064 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,064 Niles , Ohio	My kid tows with his 1500 hemi all the time.His open trailer pulls his 62 300.That car weighs in at about 4400 pounds.Never a problem and he has towed it sometimes 3 or 4 times a week.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: afxcoronet] #193523 01/15/09 07:59 AM 01/15/09 07:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx Jacob Pitt master
Jacob Pitt master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx	I tow a 22' open trailer with my '07 Ram Quad Cab Hemi with 3.91 gears. It tows really good. My Mom tows her Duster and 18' trailer with an '04 4.7L Dakota extended cab. We just picked up a '99 Ram 2500 extended cab, long bed, deisel for her to use and for long trips. 2013 NHRA D4 Stock Champ #4 in the World IHRA Stock 2x IHRA Div.4 Stock Champ 14x Track Champ All using a Ultimate Converter Concepts converter. Call Lenny today 704-892-6837

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Jacob Pitt] #193524 01/15/09 08:16 AM 01/15/09 08:16 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland D Dads426 pro stock
Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	Open ecno-trailer with a F150/4.6 liter. Combo is about 1000 lbs ligher than the limit for the truck (5500 lbs). On flat roads it is fine. In the mountains it struggles to maintain 55. Wish that I had gotten the 5.4. Nothing compares to my old Powerstroke. Didn't even know I had a trailer behind me (even an enclosed one). F150 is about 1000 lbs lighter than the diesel, but it still has very good brakes. 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Dads426] #193525 01/15/09 08:52 AM 01/15/09 08:52 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 146 Pittsburgh, PA bobdog106 member
bobdog106 member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 146 Pittsburgh, PA	I tow with my 2004 Ram Quad Cab with Hemi. It has the highway gears(3:55?),but when in the Tow mode, it actually works out good on the highway--14.7 MPG (last time checked)on the highway while towing my 71 Challenger that probably weighs close to 4K pounds. NO problem at all!

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 440Jim] #193526 01/15/09 09:04 AM 01/15/09 09:04 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut 5126brl No more OP top fuel
5126brl No more OP top fuel Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut	Thanks for all the posts. I was looking at a new F250 but I found a 2008 f150 4x4 supercab,5.4,3.73 limited slip with tow pkg for $24K. It is rated for Gcwr of 14000#. The 24ft. enclosed is 4300# car is 3400# truck is 5500# so I am at 13200# total without me. I just do not feel like owning another 3/4 or 1 ton truck to drive to the track . I will only go 2 or 3 time a year to the track so It should be fine. Thinking of selling the enclosed and get a new open trailer next.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193527 01/15/09 09:33 AM 01/15/09 09:33 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,185 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,185 aZLiViN	24ft enclosed trailer. Probably around 8K. Towed for five years with my 95 1500 3.5 geared 5.9 gas 4x4. Had to pull a couple grades out here in 2nd gear at 25mph. Had three tranny coolers total on that truck to keep things livable. I would still see close to 300. Once you got on the flats and could achieve torque converter lock up it would drop to 180. Only time that truck towed "ok" was on a dead flat with no, or a tailwind. Current rig is a 01 2500 3.5 geared 5.9 CTD 4x4. Chip/injectors/built trans by me. Those same grades I pulled at 25mph are now 55-60. Set the cruise at 65-70 and GO.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193528 01/15/09 09:40 AM 01/15/09 09:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,974 new jersey usa 1 11secdart master
11secdart master 1 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,974 new jersey usa	I towed my 20ft Haulmark with this 92 D150 318 S/B 2WD for a few years, I put in Summit shorty headers and went from 3.55s to 4.10s and it really woke it up and it towed great.I retired the 92 and towed with an 02 4.7 Durango with 3.92 rear for 6 years and it also towed good all over the place Indy, Virginia, Pittsburgh etc. 4949362-205.JPG (186 downloads) 68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 11secdart] #193529 01/15/09 09:46 AM 01/15/09 09:46 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,974 new jersey usa 1 11secdart master
11secdart master 1 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,974 new jersey usa	A few months ago I traded the Durango for this 08 Quad Cab 1500 Hemi 4x4 3.92 sure-grip rear. I`ve only towed with it once (brought my trailer back from my local track, very hilly trip) and it towed excellent. 4949374-211.JPG (176 downloads) 68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193530 01/15/09 09:55 AM 01/15/09 09:55 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 2,414 St. Croix, US Virgin Islands D David_in_St_Croi top fuel
David_in_St_Croi top fuel D Joined: May 2003 Posts: 2,414 St. Croix, US Virgin Islands	We tow with a 67 2A Land Rover short wheelbase and a rope. Fortunately we have only needed to do this to get up our hill when I broke an axle shaft in the old 8-3/4. The clutch sure-grip got it home to the base of the hill but couldn't handle the incline. https://www.facebook.com/THENEWCDRA Proud member of the liberal scientific elite

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: David_in_St_Croi] #193531 01/15/09 10:03 AM 01/15/09 10:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,120 City of Champions P Prostock I Live Here
Prostock I Live Here P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,120 City of Champions	My setup: 3/4 ton Cummins Turbo Diesel 5 speed 4949404-IMG_0233.JPG (93 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193532 01/15/09 10:18 AM 01/15/09 10:18 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 189 long island new york K kingdust member
kingdust member K Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 189 long island new york	Ihave a 98 ram 1500 club cab 4x4 long bed 5.9 magnum.I tow a 28 ft atc alum.enclosed trailer I bought the alum trailer so I wouldn't have to buy a new truck at the time.the trailer is 3500lbs unladen about 1000lbs lighter than a steel one.I upgraded the rear springs on the truck and run a kurt sway control. It tows great but I'm at the limit of my towing capacity about 8000lbs.with everything in the trailer I'm at 7800.car-quad-tools-fuel etc! I need to get diesel for the long hauls.I don't want to push it on long trips to PA up those long grades! But I can't afford a new one so I'm going to do a few upgrades to the motor for now. LIFE IS A LESSON,YOU LEARN IT WHEN YOUR THROUGH!

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: kingdust] #193533 01/15/09 10:38 AM 01/15/09 10:38 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia dthemi master
dthemi master Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia	08 3500 Dodge ram mega cab single wheel 6.7 diesel with air bags on the rear. 32' enclosed V nose. Years ago I used a 1/2 ton to pull a trailer, and it was awful until I put air bags under it. I used a set off a big truck and rigged them on, and it was great from a stability stand point, but the brakes weren't really up to it, and the 350 chevy was tired. I still went any where I wanted to go, it just took longer, and I was more careful. I'd pull with a mini if it meant the difference between going and not though.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: dthemi] #193534 01/15/09 10:51 AM 01/15/09 10:51 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	'94 Dodge 2500 4X4 diesel with 190K towing an 18 ft. open steel trailer (`1800#). Getting the weight adjusting bars this week Biggest tow so far is a 4000+ van (short distance). My usual is cars - 2600 race car to 3400 normal cars. I really prefer to have more tow vehicle than needed after a few dumb youth moves. Also, Southern California is home to a lot of drivers who have no clue what is going on around them at 75 MPH. It's better to have a balanced rig with enough power and braking to deal with traffic and idiots than to try to drive safe and rely on others to do the same.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: RodStRace] #193535 01/15/09 11:51 AM 01/15/09 11:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 master
CJK440 master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	05 Dakota Quad Cab 4.7L 1500# 16' trailer and 3000# Duster. I have a wt. dist hitch and it tows great. 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: CJK440] #193536 01/15/09 12:03 PM 01/15/09 12:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere S S/ST 3040 master
S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	84 Blazer serves double-duty for vacations when not towing 52 ft. stacker to the track. 4949603-84Blazer.jpg (122 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: S/ST 3040] #193537 01/15/09 12:49 PM 01/15/09 12:49 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: 84 Blazer serves double-duty for vacations when not towing 52 ft. stacker to the track. Wow, and I thought others were crazy for towing with Dakota's! Didja have to put helper springs on it?

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: S/ST 3040] #193538 01/15/09 12:54 PM 01/15/09 12:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 27 Palm Springs, CA G GYM member
GYM member G Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 27 Palm Springs, CA	I had to tow my '71 GTX / 16' open car trailer with my '97 Land Rover Defender 90 (4.0 litre V8)once for a short distance. Never again. Super short wheelbase trucks and car trailers laden with heavy old Mopars don't mix! '71 GTX 440+6 (Second Owner) '70 Road Runner 383 4spd (x 2)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? #193539 01/15/09 12:58 PM 01/15/09 12:58 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere S S/ST 3040 master
S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	Quote: Quote: 84 Blazer serves double-duty for vacations when not towing 52 ft. stacker to the track. Wow, and I thought others were crazy for towing with Dakota's! Didja have to put helper springs on it? You Moparts guys are much too polite. Over 40 hits before anybody commented. I got that picture in an e-mail entitled "Class 3 Hitch" and LMAO! Mine 4949695-DSCN0898.JPG (195 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: S/ST 3040] #193540 01/15/09 01:23 PM 01/15/09 01:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA	2006 3500 Dodge Laramie four door 4 wheel drive single wheel rear, 3:73 gears, automatic, stock Cummins. Trailer is a 24 ft 10,000 lb. GVW Pace Shadow,trailer weighs around 8600 lbs when loaded hook to the truck going to the races, truck weighs around 8000 lbs hook to the trailer, 7500 lbs unhooked Truck and trailer stop nice, tows great, good power and econmy, 14 MPG to 9.5 MPG at or above 70 MPH 6000ft above sea level to 180 ft above sea level so far 4949739-MVC-025S.JPG (73 downloads) Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Cab_Burge] #193541 01/15/09 02:13 PM 01/15/09 02:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 549 Chicagoland chargerron69 mopar
chargerron69 mopar Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 549 Chicagoland	85 ram 250 2wd with a 440 833O/D 4spd dana 3.54 16foot open trailer. 67 Coronet 383 hogged out 906's 727 430 dana best 10.48 @126.80 1.47 60 on fogger same car pump gas 605 wedge 9.98 @ 138.42 1.50 60 on wore out 9 inch radial slick ss springs and frame connectors its got more in it!!! 72 Newport 2 door 400 727 85 Ram 440 4 speed O/D 3.54 dana

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: chargerron69] #193542 01/15/09 04:04 PM 01/15/09 04:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 153 Wpg, Mb, Canada S six-barrel member
six-barrel member S Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 153 Wpg, Mb, Canada	As long as you are under the max rating for the truck you're good to go. If you're over that weight then a nice govt employee could give you a ticket. Where I live, the max is 10K (as indicated on the trailer tag, not the actual load) with a regular license, drivers with a a class 3 license (commercial license) can tow trailers rated higher than 10K. Anti-sway devices are also required after a certain point (either length or weight, dont remeber)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: six-barrel] #193543 01/15/09 04:38 PM 01/15/09 04:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy FlyFish super stock
FlyFish super stock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy	I have a 2003 F-350 King Ranch, crew cab, long bed, 4x4, diesel, pulling an 18 foot open trailer�this truck tows really well, lots of torque. When I lived in Colorado, a diesel was a must if you towed anything with substantial weight (like my old camper). Now that I�m in Indy, I really don�t NEED the diesel anymore�but I like the diesel power too much to get rid of it. 67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193544 01/15/09 05:24 PM 01/15/09 05:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea B5 Bee master
B5 Bee master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea	Gettin it done with SLANT SIX power! '84 D100, 833OD, 3.91SG. Here it is with a 6000lb plus load. The '67 Hemi Charger is 4000lbs plus. Homemade trailer has 16' runners. slide in ramps, 30"x30"x60" tool box, approx wt 2000lbs.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: B5 Bee] #193545 01/15/09 05:32 PM 01/15/09 05:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	all I have to say is you guys pulling enclosed trailers witha 1/2 ton are very brave. I wouldn't do it

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Quicktree] #193546 01/15/09 08:43 PM 01/15/09 08:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,120 City of Champions P Prostock I Live Here
Prostock I Live Here P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,120 City of Champions	Quote: all I have to say is you guys pulling enclosed trailers witha 1/2 ton are very brave. I wouldn't do it Me either, especially with how high the fines are here. They are again cracking down on trailers. Two years ago a wood chipper broke loose and killed two children and their father. This year a trailer with a quad on it broke loose and killed two people and hurt one very bad. If you aren't 100% DOT legal (and that doesn't mean legal in your state, that means in ALL 50 states), don't come to PA. You most likely will get cited and the fines here are horrendous.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: S/ST 3040] #193547 01/15/09 08:59 PM 01/15/09 08:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Quote: You Moparts guys are much too polite. Over 40 hits before anybody commented. I got that picture in an e-mail entitled "Class 3 Hitch" and LMAO! Mine Vic, that Pic, has been around for awhile I saw the humor in what you were doing and liked it. I think , are you sure that Blazer/ camper rig wasnt yours at one time mike

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Prostock] #193548 01/15/09 09:38 PM 01/15/09 09:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut 5126brl No more OP top fuel
5126brl No more OP top fuel Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut	I have been trying to find a site or place that list the towing laws. I have a 24 ft. enclosed that is registerd and built for a 10000# limit. I heard that some states are getting tuff so I wanted to re register it at a lower rate say 9k. What is the info that the dot or police are going to use to verify my truck can pull the 10K trailer? It is not listed on the door tag? In the ford towing guide I have it says with 3.73s I can pull up to 14000# with a load distributing hitch and I have one.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Sport440] #193549 01/15/09 09:38 PM 01/15/09 09:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere S S/ST 3040 master
S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	I just got it a few days ago. I thought it was hilarious but, no not mine. It's a GM.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193550 01/15/09 10:32 PM 01/15/09 10:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,120 City of Champions P Prostock I Live Here
Prostock I Live Here P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,120 City of Champions	Quote: I have been trying to find a site or place that list the towing laws. I have a 24 ft. enclosed that is registerd and built for a 10000# limit. I heard that some states are getting tuff so I wanted to re register it at a lower rate say 9k. What is the info that the dot or police are going to use to verify my truck can pull the 10K trailer? It is not listed on the door tag? In the ford towing guide I have it says with 3.73s I can pull up to 14000# with a load distributing hitch and I have one. Is it exatly 10,000? At 10,001 and above here, you must have the licence plate of the tow vehicle registered to cover both the weight of the truck AND trailer. Its called "in combination" I am sure if you use google you can find the towing laws of each state.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: S/ST 3040] #193551 01/15/09 10:38 PM 01/15/09 10:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 396 California, USA P Phil Saran enthusiast
Phil Saran enthusiast P Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 396 California, USA	Not a 1/2 ton, but I tow with a 2004 Ford F350 diesel, 4dr, 4x4,long bed, 4:10 gears. Maybe a bit overkill for what I tow, but it was a good price when I bought it 1/2006. 18 ft open full steel bed car trailer with a 74 Duster that weights about 3400 with me in it. Gets around 15 mpg towing that. Also tow a 25 ft travel trailer that weights about 7500 loaded, gets 9 to 13 depending on how many 6 degree hills I climb on a trip. Phil Saran Parker, Colorado

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: slantzilla] #193552 01/15/09 11:56 PM 01/15/09 11:56 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	'98 Dually Diesel and 24' enclosed. Set cruise at 70mph+ and it just stays right there... 4951177-S_DSC09090.JPG (176 downloads) Last edited by Dragula; 01/15/09 11:58 PM. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Dragula] #193553 01/16/09 12:01 AM 01/16/09 12:01 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Nuddrr 4951186-S_98Dodge(79).JPG (217 downloads) '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Dragula] #193554 01/16/09 12:02 AM 01/16/09 12:02 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,383 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	My old '90 with upgraded suspension I towed an open trailor for many years... 4951190-90dod-1.JPG (215 downloads) '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Dragula] #193555 01/16/09 12:08 AM 01/16/09 12:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	I cant believe how many 1/2 ton dually diesel pickups exist out there. mike

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: S/ST 3040] #193556 01/16/09 03:57 AM 01/16/09 03:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Quote: You Moparts guys are much too polite. Over 40 hits before anybody commented. I got that picture in an e-mail entitled "Class 3 Hitch" and LMAO! Mine I laughed my butt off when I saw that pic.. my kid came running in to see what was so funny.. He looked at the picture, said "OH" and then looked at me funny 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Jeepmon] #193557 01/16/09 11:24 AM 01/16/09 11:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 755 Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh... 1 1974 474 Duster super stock
1974 474 Duster super stock 1 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 755 Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh...	Well it can be done with an open trailer no problem. However I only have a 20' enclosed and it almost cost me everything. Was on a normal tow home from Quaker city and it had rained earlier in the day. It for the most part was dry. I came into Chippewa (rt. 60) exit and hit a new patch of asphalt. Well the oil had come out from the high heat that day, then the rain came in. Well it was bad, trailer started to jack knife and I was in a slide. If it were not for the quick thinking of my buddy Derek it would have been all over. He yanked 2 lanes over seeing me coming at him in a slide. I recovered enough to get things straight, but was still in a slide. Was more than 1/2 thru the light when I finally got stopped. Went out that week and got a 1 ton dually Diseal to tow with, so much safer. See ya, Ken Michalik 4951676-duster.pdf_edited.JPG (167 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 1974 474 Duster] #193558 01/16/09 01:33 PM 01/16/09 01:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Well it can be done with an open trailer no problem. However I only have a 20' enclosed and it almost cost me everything. Was on a normal tow home from Quaker city and it had rained earlier in the day. It for the most part was dry. I came into Chippewa (rt. 60) exit and hit a new patch of asphalt. Well the oil had come out from the high heat that day, then the rain came in. Well it was bad, trailer started to jack knife and I was in a slide. If it were not for the quick thinking of my buddy Derek it would have been all over. He yanked 2 lanes over seeing me coming at him in a slide. I recovered enough to get things straight, but was still in a slide. Was more than 1/2 thru the light when I finally got stopped. Went out that week and got a 1 ton dually Diseal to tow with, so much safer. See ya, Ken Michalik I dont care what you have, if your on oil your dually wouldnt have stopped either.... at least my dually wont. I believe in have good trailer brakes... and I use them... also I prefer to have electric brakes over a surge brake... with the electric brakes I can stand on the trailer brakes to straighten out the rig if need be

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #193559 01/16/09 03:57 PM 01/16/09 03:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483... daniel_depetro pro stock
daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	We have two 18-foot open car trailers (both trailers have electric brakes on both axles). The new (2006 Road Warrior) trailer weighs 2,400 lbs. and the old (2000 Stillwater) trailer weighs 2,000 lbs. All I have ever towed with are 2wd 1/2-ton trucks without weight distribution bars and they all towed great in my opinion. Here is our hot rod tow unit. It's a 1964 Ford F-100 2wd truck with a rebuilt 1989 Dodge 5.9L factory roller cam engine with 1994 Magnum exhaust manifolds with dual 2.5" exhaust out the rear of the truck. It has a T/F-727 transmission and Ford 9" rear with 3.5?:1 gears. It has a Camaro front subframe with power disk brakes. It had a 350 'Vette engine in it when we bought it. We cut up an old hitch and welded it directly to the frame and the hitch & 7-pin plug in is hidden behind the license plate. It needed a lot of small bugs worked out, but for the $1,000.00 I paid for it in daily driving condition this truck served its purpose many times over. I even raced this truck (with a small B&M supercharger on it) for a couple years until the 350 finally spun some bearings. Thats when we "fixed" the driveline. In 2006 with a complete running/driving 1973 Dodge Dart Sport on the trailer and a complete rebuilt 440 Six Pack engine in the bed of the truck along with a lot of tools and such. Picked up the engine in Scranton, PA for $2,750.00 and the Dart Sport in Wooster, Ohio. Shortly after I hit two deer in one night with the '64 on my way to pick up a 1972 Demon in Eau Clare, WI. Then I picked up this 1993 Ford F-150 for better fuel economy and less worries. I bought it for $800.00. It had 128,xxx miles on it and just had a full tune up. I had to put new rear leaf springs & hangers/shackles on it ($325.00). It also desperately need new u-joints ($35.00). It had new exhaust but it was small so I bent my own 2.5" free flowing system. It had the 300 I-6 engine and a 5-speed manual transmission. A standard cab and long box with dual fuel tanks. It was a very base model truck. NO A/C, no cruise control, manual windows, manual mirrors, manual door locks, a rubber floor mat (instead of carpeting), ... a real work horse of a truck! It would get 20+ MPGs empty too. These are the only two shots I could find quickly with a loaded trailer hooked to it. A little over a year ago I bought a 1998 Stratus for $200.00 with a bad timing belt. I threw on a new timing belt ($35.00) and luckily it ran like a new car. I bought a new right side mirror ($33.00) for it and then traded the car even up for this extremely nice clean fully loaded 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT qaud cab 2wd 5.9L Magnum auto. It had 1,000s of dollars in quality upgrades so it was a smoking deal. I added front and rear factory chrome bumpers. It tows great and I love the extended cab. Best of all it's a Dodge. It gets about 13 MPGs while towing a loaded trailer, however unfortunately it doesn't get much more completely empty. It does need new tires though. 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 5126brl No more] #193560 01/16/09 04:10 PM 01/16/09 04:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA	Be careful of the total weight you tow with a 1/2 ton pick up, regardless of which brand I wrecked a Hemi GTX yeras ago towing it with a 1/2 ton Ford on a real lightweight two axle open trailer, we hit a big dog and jack knife the trailer, flip the GTX off of the trailer ionto its top totaling it I now tow with a one ton Dodge CTD four door wheel drive truck now Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Cab_Burge] #193561 01/16/09 05:08 PM 01/16/09 05:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	I hit a big buck one night with the Dakota pulling a trailer on I29 just into South Dakota. $6500. damage to the truck. Set off teh air bag and took out the front end and wrapped the radiator around the fan without breaking the radiator, took out the left door, hood, fenders, cracked the windshield, and kincked the dash. It was cool out and even without the fan turning with a clutch fan I was able to drive the truck home 120 miles at midnight with one head light shining out into the right ditch. It stayed straight as a pin. This was still with a tag trailer using a load distribution hitch which IMO is a must with just about any tow rig towing a tag axle trailer any bigger than a utility trailer. I swore off tags if at all possible. Goosenecks tow so much nicer and are much safer to tow than a tag trailer. Closest I have come to a wreck in all the years of towing was with a dually crew cab in on a city street at about 35 MPH and a car pulled out in front of me on a wet street and I locked it up towing an open flat bed with the car on it. since that time I have made a habit to periodically check the trailer brakes while going down the road. That time the main brake power lead had come loose from the connection. All the lights worked but not the brakes.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MoparforLife] #193562 01/16/09 05:38 PM 01/16/09 05:38 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	That time the main brake power lead had come loose from the connection. All the lights worked but not the brakes. Thats the one thing that I really like about my Prodigy controller, if the power to the brakes is broken for any reason it shows on the controller

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #193563 01/16/09 05:55 PM 01/16/09 05:55 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 85 Wellington, Ohio (20 minutes f... MrMoparRacing member
MrMoparRacing member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 85 Wellington, Ohio (20 minutes f...	I also tow a 16'open bed trailer with my 1970 Dodge Dart with a 2001 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab 4X2 with the 4.7L. It tows fine going 20 minutes from my house to Summit Racing Equipment Motorsports Park but I will be putting it to the test this year as I plan to attend several IHRA and NHRA national and divisional races.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MrMoparRacing] #193564 01/16/09 06:00 PM 01/16/09 06:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	I didn't mention that when the trailer started coming and pushing the truck it took it right with it into the next lane like I was on ice.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MoparforLife] #193565 01/16/09 08:10 PM 01/16/09 08:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 518 ny G greenmcode mopar
greenmcode mopar G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 518 ny	I was towing an open 18' steel deck trailer with an 06 f150 5.4.. Towed very nice got about 13 mpg.. Stepped up to a 24' enclosed 10,000 gvw with a 08 f250 5.4 towes good on the flats hills suck gets about 9 to 10 mpg.. But no worry about road debris, rain and I can sleep in it.. [image][/image] [image][/image] 1969 A12 R.R. 11.61 117.96 F.A.S.T. STOCK STROKE..

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: greenmcode] #193566 01/17/09 12:21 AM 01/17/09 12:21 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	I'm spoiled, my current setup is a 2005 Ram 3500 Cummins QuadCab 4x4 (single rear wheel) longbed with a 28' enclosed trailer. I think the trailer, car, and gear in the trailer bring the trailer weight to around #10,000? The truck tows great, but could use an exhaust brake in the mountian passes. The new 6.7L Cummins with the new transmission and Variable geometry turbo are really nice for towing, but use a bit more fuel. I have a few friends with the newer 6.7L trucks and they are nice, but I don't want to go into more debt when the 2005 is almost paid off and works great for me. Before I had the Diesel truck and enclosed trailer, I had to borrow my friends 18' open trailer and I had towed it with several vehicles including my 1984 RamCharger 4x4, 1986 Ram 150 4x4, and a 2002 Ram 1500 with the 4.7L. The RamChargers suspension and wheelbase made towing a challange even though I used it to tow my '69 Coronet Convertible from the coast of Utah to Colorado, but the 318 was struggling on the passes and overheated several times. The 1986 Ram 150 towed pretty good, just need to keep it under 90 MPH while towing. It's sort of scarry looking in the rear view mirror at the trailer swaying almost sideways at you! The 2002 Ram 1500 towed good with no real issues, but the 4.7L would down shift alot when going up hills.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 451Mopar] #193567 01/17/09 03:32 AM 01/17/09 03:32 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 248 Sweden T Tobbe enthusiast
Tobbe enthusiast T Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 248 Sweden	would love to have a 3500 cummins to tow my stuff prices on diesels are nuts and on every truck that have a total weight of over 7700lbs you must have a "truck" driver licens and thats expensive and if you have a trailer after the truck you must have a aditional trailer licens to get those licens that is anything between 25-50k skr ( 3000-6000$) in fees /driving lessons etc ...... so i just stay whit a 1500 4953612-20070627(003).jpg (165 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Tobbe] #193568 01/17/09 03:34 AM 01/17/09 03:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 248 Sweden T Tobbe enthusiast
Tobbe enthusiast T Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 248 Sweden	the green truck is my dad�s the red is mine 4953616-20081123(001).jpg (182 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Tobbe] #193569 01/17/09 12:26 PM 01/17/09 12:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio C cgall top fuel
cgall top fuel C Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio	As stated before, good trailer brakes are a must when towing with a 1/2 ton truck. Another consideration is to keep the total weight down. I seldom travelled with more than a tool box and a cooler with my '99 Dakota, 2100 lb. trailer, and 2700 lb. Duster. That's why I am always hanging with RBDuster and Jeff Russell at the races, I can sponge their awning shade, chairs, generator, jacks, etc. Another comment on the Dakota, I do not consider it even a 1/2 ton, the 5.2 engine is adequate, but the brakes and suspension are better suited for commuting. Even with 25 bags of mulch on board, this truck is scary. I would have gotten rid of it long ago, but it is my daily driver.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: cgall] #193570 01/17/09 12:41 PM 01/17/09 12:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: As stated before, good trailer brakes are a must when towing with a 1/2 ton truck. Another consideration is to keep the total weight down. I seldom travelled with more than a tool box and a cooler with my '99 Dakota, 2100 lb. trailer, and 2700 lb. Duster. That's why I am always hanging with RBDuster and Jeff Russell at the races, I can sponge their awning shade, chairs, generator, jacks, etc. Another comment on the Dakota, I do not consider it even a 1/2 ton, the 5.2 engine is adequate, but the brakes and suspension are better suited for commuting. Even with 25 bags of mulch on board, this truck is scary. I would have gotten rid of it long ago, but it is my daily driver. They are considered a half ton and titled as a half ton and ours is licensed for 12000 lbs.. To many compare them to Rangers and S10's. This is out of the 97 Owners Dakota Manual. I also use a goose neck which is over and above a Class 4. But am right in at the 7000 lbs. 4954005-towing09.jpg (73 downloads)

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Tobbe] #193571 01/17/09 12:45 PM 01/17/09 12:45 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Quote: would love to have a 3500 cummins to tow my stuff prices on diesels are nuts and on every truck that have a total weight of over 7700lbs you must have a "truck" driver licens and thats expensive and if you have a trailer after the truck you must have a aditional trailer licens to get those licens that is anything between 25-50k skr ( 3000-6000$) in fees /driving lessons etc ...... so i just stay whit a 1500 Wow! $6,000 in fees to drive a 1-ton truck with trailer I guess Sweden government can't get by with just the 50% income tax?

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 451Mopar] #193572 01/17/09 01:37 PM 01/17/09 01:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 572 Shelbyville, TN USA 4 40ford mopar addict
40ford mopar addict 4 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 572 Shelbyville, TN USA	All I can say is make sure you know what your tow truck is rated for and know what your total load is. The DOT can get difficult to deal with----but you sure don't want to get involved in any type of accident with an injury---local law enforcement can get really difficult---to the point of carting you off in cuffs. They may not be able to make the charges stick but they can and will arrest you and carry you to jail. Forget about suing about false imprisonment---you won't win. Just make sure you are OK weightwise. Changing the subject---anyone ever towed a race car with a tow bar---that's how I got started---a flathead powered Crosley altered---pulled by a flathead powered Model A coupe. Just wish I had a picture---but didn't have a camera back then!

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 40ford] #193573 01/17/09 01:56 PM 01/17/09 01:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: All I can say is make sure you know what your tow truck is rated for and know what your total load is. The DOT can get difficult to deal with----but you sure don't want to get involved in any type of accident with an injury---local law enforcement can get really difficult---to the point of carting you off in cuffs. They may not be able to make the charges stick but they can and will arrest you and carry you to jail. Forget about suing about false imprisonment---you won't win. Just make sure you are OK weightwise. Changing the subject---anyone ever towed a race car with a tow bar---that's how I got started---a flathead powered Crosley altered---pulled by a flathead powered Model A coupe. Just wish I had a picture---but didn't have a camera back then! heck we towed one to the track with a rope before. but it was only about 2 miles from the track.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 40ford] #193574 01/17/09 01:59 PM 01/17/09 01:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	We used to tow 70 miles to the track down the interstate with a drive shaft with a loop of chain on each end for a tow bar. One person sitting in the tow vehicle for braking and steering.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: MoparforLife] #193575 01/17/09 02:31 PM 01/17/09 02:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,855 Staten Island N.Y. Dap top fuel
Dap top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,855 Staten Island N.Y.	I have a 2003 Pace American Shadow GT 10,000lb gvwr. I pull that with a 1993 Chev Suburban 2500,2WD with a 454. Before I had the Suburban I pulled the trailer with my 2003 Trailblazer. PRH446 10.084 @ 135.21 mph N/A through chambered mufflers,3300lbs. Stock stroke wedge

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: Dap] #193576 01/17/09 02:47 PM 01/17/09 02:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 693 Coronado, CA G go-fish mopar
go-fish mopar G Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 693 Coronado, CA	Towed my 73 Duster on a U-Haul dolly from San Diego to Gulfport, MS with a 99 GMC Yukon 4x4. I was changing duty stations so I had all my household goods in the Yuk and the Duster. Looked like Beverly Hillbilly's. My whole house in Two cars but I was a 23 y/o military guy with little to my name anyway. I borrowed an equipment trailer to drive from the Gulf Coast to central Oklahoma to pick up my 'cuda and bring it back. It did great. The trailer had brakes on it and it pulled much better than the San Diego move. I later borrowed the same friends 4 dr, chipped and 6" lifted Duramax to go get about 1500#'s of Mopar stuff and parts and got 25 mpg with the same trailer! Someday when I get the 'cuda complete I will buy an aluminum 20 or so footer. I would like to find an old early 90's single cab, manual, long bed CTD for sole trailer towing duty. My ideal set up. 70 'cuda: ProCharged 408, Tremec 5 speed, S60,triangulated 4 link, Hydroboost and Wilwoods

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 11secdart] #193577 01/17/09 02:51 PM 01/17/09 02:51 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 2,117 Cleveland Ohio 10secGTX top fuel
10secGTX top fuel Joined: May 2003 Posts: 2,117 Cleveland Ohio	I bought a 1500HD from AZ back in November and look forward to towing w/it ....6.0 2wd 3.73 it has 116000 but its like new. The LS engine seems pretty good so far look how many miles Eric's truck has. 4954256-2002CHEVYHD10-30-2008015.jpg (69 downloads) Last edited by 10secGTX; 01/17/09 02:52 PM.

Re: How many towing race car with a 1/2 ton P.U.?? [Re: 451Mopar] #193578 01/18/09 07:01 AM 01/18/09 07:01 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 248 Sweden T Tobbe enthusiast
Tobbe enthusiast T Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 248 Sweden	Quote: Quote: would love to have a 3500 cummins to tow my stuff prices on diesels are nuts and on every truck that have a total weight of over 7700lbs you must have a "truck" driver licens and thats expensive and if you have a trailer after the truck you must have a aditional trailer licens to get those licens that is anything between 25-50k skr ( 3000-6000$) in fees /driving lessons etc ...... so i just stay whit a 1500 Wow! $6,000 in fees to drive a 1-ton truck with trailer I guess Sweden government can't get by with just the 50% income tax? well all that 6k ist not fees to the goverment som part of it most are for make all the driving tests and medical tests/driven lessons/final driving test renta a truck (ypu cant do the test whit a small 1 -ton the drivinglicens is the sam as driving a big rig/18 wheeler

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