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Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off #193273 01/14/09 03:18 PM 01/14/09 03:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,073 Tulsa, Ok WadeMetzinger OP top fuel
WadeMetzinger OP top fuel Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,073 Tulsa, Ok	I'd like to move the battery to the trunk of my wife '68 Cuda but since it's also a street car I do not want to put a shut off on the back of the car. It's my understanding that there is an IHRA/NHRA rule requiring one but I was wondering if there was also and ET break for when it's required or does it not matter what ET, if you have it in the trunk you have to have an external shut off? Wade Metzinger 918-809-0987 71 Cuda 9.28@145 -1s, Pglide 68 Cuda 10.64@124 1.45 60's 318->390 eddys Moparts discount code on WIX - moparts www.Filter1.com

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: WadeMetzinger] #193274 01/14/09 03:22 PM 01/14/09 03:22 PM
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tonycpe member Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 146 michigan	Batt relocated to trunk = rear shut off for all power . you knew you knew the answer. Old Fogey Racing Ltd.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: WadeMetzinger] #193275 01/14/09 03:30 PM 01/14/09 03:30 PM
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FlyFish super stock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy	Yes you have to have one. On my 67 cuda its right through the center of my license plate. 67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: FlyFish] #193276 01/14/09 03:36 PM 01/14/09 03:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada dave571 master
dave571 master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada	What most guys who are opposed to the look do, is use a push pull type of switch. then you run the rod for the knob/switch through a small hole in whatver part you like.(a lense or behind the plate, or whatever) Then, when not in use just unthread the rod, and put it in the glove box.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut [Re: dave571] #193277 01/14/09 03:38 PM 01/14/09 03:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ M maximum entropy master
maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	not only do you have to have a shut off at the back of the car, but the battery needs to be in an nhra approved box vented to the out side, or you need a rear firewall. bolted down with minimum 3/8 studs x2. Last edited by maximum entropy; 01/14/09 03:41 PM. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: dave571] #193278 01/14/09 03:39 PM 01/14/09 03:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Also need a metal fire wall between the trunk area and the passenger compartment.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: dave571] #193279 01/14/09 03:41 PM 01/14/09 03:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	There are ways to make it easier and less conspicuous on a street car. Through the license plate, under a tail light. My car is just as much of a street car as a race car, With glass bumpers I said screw it and just mounted it in the bumper as normal. The handle is close to body color though so it doesn't stick out quite as much. Never been hassled in tech about it either. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: dave571] #193280 01/14/09 06:16 PM 01/14/09 06:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Quote: What most guys who are opposed to the look do, is use a push pull type of switch. then you run the rod for the knob/switch through a small hole in whatver part you like.(a lense or behind the plate, or whatever) Then, when not in use just unthread the rod, and put it in the glove box. That is a great Idea. I used a push/pull on Gina's car and was concerned about someone bumping it while we were driving on the street. I used one of the existing hole in the bumper to put the rod through. If you have any it's an alternative to drilling into the body. I did have to ream it a little larger. But, if you take the rod out, you'll never notice.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: WadeMetzinger] #193281 01/14/09 07:09 PM 01/14/09 07:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon	It depends on the track and how fast the car is. The local track here doesn't require an external shut off even though the rules require it. I've had my car thru tech several times and the tech guy has never been concerned about my lack of an external shut off. He looked over my trunk mounted battery closely and examined the straps that hold it down and then said I was good to go.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: AndyF] #193282 01/14/09 10:35 PM 01/14/09 10:35 PM
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Aspen7695 super stock A Joined: May 2003 Posts: 902 Gilbert, AZ	Obviously the tech inspectors at your track don't know what they are doing, or they are too lazy to do the job they are trained to do. Just because they are not following the rules does not excuse you from following them. You obviously know better. Do you even have a rear firewall? I don't mean to be a fanatic, but I am a certified NHRA tech and I take the job personally. Raul

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: Aspen7695] #193283 01/14/09 10:48 PM 01/14/09 10:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada racealittle pro stock
racealittle pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada	What about the newer Chrysler products that come with the battery factory mounted in the trunk? I've seen them running at the track without a shutoff switch or a battery box. Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen! Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: racealittle] #193284 01/14/09 11:07 PM 01/14/09 11:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,537 PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA superwrench master
superwrench master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,537 PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA	Quote: What about the newer Chrysler products that come with the battery factory mounted in the trunk? I've seen them running at the track without a shutoff switch or a battery box. Ah-Ha!!! A can of worms here???

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: superwrench] #193285 01/14/09 11:12 PM 01/14/09 11:12 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Quote: Quote: What about the newer Chrysler products that come with the battery factory mounted in the trunk? I've seen them running at the track without a shutoff switch or a battery box. Ah-Ha!!! A can of worms here??? IIRC, it's required IF you move the battery from the factory location. No worms on the loose

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: racealittle] #193286 01/14/09 11:13 PM 01/14/09 11:13 PM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: What about the newer Chrysler products that come with the battery factory mounted in the trunk? I've seen them running at the track without a shutoff switch or a battery box. Don't need a box.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: RobX4406] #193287 01/14/09 11:23 PM 01/14/09 11:23 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,863 Colorado Leadfoot master
Leadfoot master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,863 Colorado	Does killing "All" power mean it kills the engine and it will not crank either? I can't think of a way to do it with a single set of contacts like most switches that I've seen. I've never put a lot of thought into it either.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut off [Re: Leadfoot] #193288 01/14/09 11:30 PM 01/14/09 11:30 PM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Not hard to do. All you have to do is to run the alternator battery wire to the + side of the battery or the shut off switch. Then when the switch is turned to off it kills the battery flow that energizes the alternator. A lot of people also hook in a Ford type solenoid but it is not needed to kill the power.

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Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut #193290 01/15/09 12:06 AM 01/15/09 12:06 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada D dirtybee super stock
dirtybee super stock D Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada	i'm trying to figure this out too. so duster dave where does the big pos battery cable go to? the cold side of the switch?

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut [Re: dirtybee] #193291 01/15/09 12:11 AM 01/15/09 12:11 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,863 Colorado Leadfoot master
Leadfoot master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,863 Colorado	So now we have three wires going from the trunk to the front. 1 Big one and 2 little ones. Alternator and battery go to the left side and out the right side we go to the starter with the big one and the relay with the little one. I think I get it now.

Re: Moving Battery to trunk, do you have to have a shut [Re: Leadfoot] #193292 01/15/09 12:13 AM 01/15/09 12:13 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada D dirtybee super stock
dirtybee super stock D Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada	wha? i got to go to bed but i've been trying to figure out how to make my 2 post moroso shut off switch work ever since i bought it over a year ago soi'll check back in 2morrow. thx, dave Last edited by dirtybee; 01/15/09 12:19 AM.

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