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78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? #1927402
10/06/15 11:43 PM
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I have heard that the front chassis and suspension and rear suspension from a diplomat will bolt up to a same year volare, sway bars and all. true?


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Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1927434
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Yes.

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: Kern Dog] #1927849
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The only difference between F/J/M cars is the sheet metal.


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Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1928045
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I saw one member's car where he pulled the 4sp out of a F body and put it into a Diplomat. Everything fit like a glove.

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1928054
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Any yea F/M/J will swap to any other year, does not have to be same year.

But closer to 89 is better than closer to 76.

I put a 4 speed into an M body, a bit more involved than fit like a glove. But not much. The 4 speed was out of a 70 A body, but F/J/M's used the same type so that wasn't an issue. Primarily what was an issue is that by 87 (the year of my M) Chrysler quit punching the holes in various places for a manual transmission, so I found a 79 F body with a manual, a three speed in this case, and used it to make templates and as a source for most of the linkage, floor hump, clutch pedal assembly. Used an A body Hurst Indy shifter since I wasn't running an A833OD. Use a Dakota 3.9L flywheel cause they are cheap new. What wasn't new got rebuilt by me before I even started the swap, took me a Saturday to do it all.


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Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: Supercuda] #1928129
10/08/15 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
Any yea F/M/J will swap to any other year, does not have to be same year.

But closer to 89 is better than closer to 76.

I put a 4 speed into an M body, a bit more involved than fit like a glove. But not much. The 4 speed was out of a 70 A body, but F/J/M's used the same type so that wasn't an issue. Primarily what was an issue is that by 87 (the year of my M) Chrysler quit punching the holes in various places for a manual transmission, so I found a 79 F body with a manual, a three speed in this case, and used it to make templates and as a source for most of the linkage, floor hump, clutch pedal assembly. Used an A body Hurst Indy shifter since I wasn't running an A833OD. Use a Dakota 3.9L flywheel cause they are cheap new. What wasn't new got rebuilt by me before I even started the swap, took me a Saturday to do it all.


The last year M body that seems to have 4 speed sheet metal that I have come across was a 1981 Plymouth Caravelle.
Swapping out the power train is easy if you drop it out the bottom.


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Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1928166
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Originally Posted By 4bbl
I have heard that the front chassis and suspension and rear suspension from a diplomat will bolt up to a same year volare, sway bars and all. true?


76 to 88 should interchange pretty much everything, suspension wise.
Just tore down an 88 Dippy. Most of it looked the same as the dozens of 76-80 F's I've torn down.
As said above, pretty much the same car under the skin with a few subtle differences.

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1928278
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Speaking of F bodies, does anyone know what happened to aspenandvolare.com?

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: TC@HP2] #1928833
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Originally Posted By TC@HP2
Speaking of F bodies, does anyone know what happened to aspenandvolare.com?


Its back up and running.

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1928928
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I've tried getting in an it won't recognize my username or password. I tried requesting a reset, but their random question validation keeps telling me my answer is wrong, despite trying it several different ways.

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1929096
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Yea, I had issues too.

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1929224
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Ahh, had to re-register.

thanks Jim!

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: mopars4ever] #1929435
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Your welcome Tony up


Originally Posted By mopars4ever
Yea, I had issues too.


Did you get in OK?

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1929509
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Yes, I had to re-register too.

Re: 78 diplomat chassis swap with 78 volare? [Re: 4bbl] #1933806
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Outside of the mechanicals and body there are some changes in things like glass, certainly for both the F/M body coupes where the pre-80 and post-80 stuff is not completely interchangable.







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