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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: WHITEDART] #1961185
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It is in my opinion🎲🎲 the oil galley should have just broke through into the lifter .or done like a typical r3... not dead center

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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #1962254
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Keep the updates coming. I'm interested in one if they work.


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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1962505
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I drilled and tapped holes in the bottom of the cam valley.

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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #1963156
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Kind of easy to see here why it would have drainback issues.


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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: WHITEDART] #1963200
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Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Did you use a grooved lifter or bushin, so the oil could pass by 100% of the time. Because the oil galley is dead center of the lifter a groove someplace is necessary.. I used a grooved bushing. So that oil will pass by continuously

Are you saying that the galley drilling goes straight through the lifter bores? As in... The first lifter blocks oil to all the rest!?


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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #1963256
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Yes sir it does go right through the center of the lifter bore. the lifters (Morell)I an using have a hole in the center so oil can pass through them.

Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #1963464
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #1970147
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Up date, After finding out that the lifter is blocking the oil flow down the lifter galley, That's why I have limited oil flow to the top end. I have dissembled the motor and we are in the process of installing lifter bushings with a slot in them for oil to pass through the lifter and oil the rest of the lifters. The oil that came out of the motor was clean no water in it. The bearing looked good except for one rod that had some stuff go through it.

Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #1970232
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I don't think a slotted bushing would be in your best interest you need a bushing that has a circular groove so the oil can pass by both sides of the lifter not through it. I will try to post a picture

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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: WHITEDART] #1970234
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The bushing on the left allows oil to pass by 100% of the time I think that's what you need that's what I had to do

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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: WHITEDART] #1970237
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You can ignore the up and down slot that's for a keyway lifter you just need a typical grooved lifter bushing unless you're running a keyed I had to go to a large lifter to correct the location. And angle... lifter timing would have not been correct if we did not fix that problem hopefully you don't have that issue... most people would never check...

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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: WHITEDART] #1970378
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Valuable info WHITEDART.


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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #1970497
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Thanks for the input, I see what you are saying with the free flow around the bushing to keep the oil flowing to the rest of the lifters. I am running a Morell lifter with the .180 intake offset.

Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2029217
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Up date the bushing are installed and honed to size. after a trip to the machine shop for a good cleaning then home to begin reassembly. Will keep you posted.

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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2029347
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2029612
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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2029700
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Originally Posted By 69 lawndart
Up date the bushing are installed and honed to size. after a trip to the machine shop for a good cleaning then home to begin reassembly. Will keep you posted.
nice work who did the machine work. Do you have a pic of both decks I would like to see if he made any changes


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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2031641
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The machine work was done by S&K Engine Specialists in Topeka KS.

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Re: 420cid build with a new Ritter Aluminum Block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2033160
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Update it runs, good oil supply to the top end, cold oil pressure is 70 to 80 psi and hot oil pressure is 35 to 40 psi,if you touch the throttle the oil pressure is 60 plus. No bad noises oil is clean.

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