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Re: Hotchkis Total Vehicle System Questions [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1882886
08/01/15 03:10 PM
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On the test fitments I've done, they share the same segment lengths as an A body.

Re: Hotchkis Total Vehicle System Questions [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1883210
08/02/15 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
I'll be using it for a mix of things from drag racing, autocrossing, to road trips like the Hot Rod Power Tour. I also understand that there will be compromises when targeting a general use type vehicle build. I plan to have multiple setups for the various uses which will primarily involve tire & wheel combos and basic suspension adjustments. I am used to driving pretty hardcore vehicles so I'm not a wuss when it comes to creature comforts or ride quality, niether matter much to me, performance is king.



Is this for the yellow Duster?


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Re: Hotchkis Total Vehicle System Questions [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1883426
08/02/15 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Is this for the yellow Duster?


That was the initial idea, but no, not anymore. The yellow car staying all original. I do have another 71 I'm doing, it's going to be the guinea pig. I started this post quite a while back, I still haven't seen any torsion bars offered to make this "Total" vehicle system offering complete? Any updates?

Re: Hotchkis Total Vehicle System Questions [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1883440
08/02/15 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
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Is this for the yellow Duster?


That was the initial idea, but no, not anymore. The yellow car staying all original. I do have another 71 I'm doing, it's going to be the guinea pig. I started this post quite a while back, I still haven't seen any torsion bars offered to make this "Total" vehicle system offering complete? Any updates?


No real updates. The 68 is about 90% complete. It's been too hot to work on it so it's a little at a time. My last day at work was this past Friday so I'm officially retired. Now it's packing boxes for the move to Mesa.


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Re: Hotchkis Total Vehicle System Questions [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1883554
08/02/15 02:57 PM
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I have some of the parts of the TVS on my car and I live in Metro Detroit where there probably are the worst roads in the entire nation.

I have:
-Hotchkis UCAs
-Hotchkis F&R sway bars
-Poly LCA Bushings
-RMS Strut Rods (Hotchkis ones are close enough so I doubt it makes a difference for handling)
-Hotchkis Subframe connectors
-Hotchkis/Fox Racing Non-Adjustable Shocks
-Firm Feel 1.06 Torsion bars
-ESPO 6 leaf "340" Springs at stock ride height, offset shackles
-Borgenson "first design" steering box
-Currently 225-60-15 BFG G-Force Sports
-1.5 deg camber/ 3 deg caster (will add more caster in the future)

I have to say that unless you're on a really, really rough road it rides better with this setup than the more OE stuff I had before. It corners extremely flat, and feels very balanced, like a totally different car. I'm not sure I'd go over the 1.06 torsion bars unless you're only autocrossing or road racing. I keep my rear bar in the middle setting for now, probably the most neutral for the street.

I do not have the rod end steering links or the rear springs so I can't comment on those. I do experience some minor bump-steer, but not terrible, and I haven't had any decel wheelhop or anything with the rear springs (poly bushings), so I'm quite unsure how much performance would be gained there.

I have a set of 275-35-18 tires for it but just need to get the wheels modified and I'll be set to go there.


'70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip
Re: Hotchkis Total Vehicle System Questions [Re: autoxcuda] #1891341
08/13/15 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Do 62-65 B's take two unique spring front and rear segment lenght combinations?


Here is a handy little chart from Mancini Racing with all the leaf spring dimensions. also a link for AR Engineering is attached for all new front hangers available. The leaf spring front section dimensions are shown for each style front hanger.

http://arengineering.com/home-page/spring-hangers/

Other differences for the frame connectors are the wheelbase changes in Dodges 116" for 1962, 119" for '63-'64, and 117" for '65. Plymouth stayed at 116 inches '62-'65.







Re: Hotchkis Total Vehicle System Questions [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1891466
08/13/15 11:55 PM
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Very cool info! I'll have to make a copy of that for future R&D.

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