high rpm belt squeal- pulley align help
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07/31/15 01:11 PM
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smos001
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Well I finally got my Classic Air AC on (questions feel free to ask). Moved all my belts around. Now I get a squeal at about 4K rpm.
It is the Unisteer Power steering pump belt going around the water pump and the crank. I checked and rechecked the best I could the alignment of the pulleys, Tightened the tension, and even changed the belt. After changing the belt, the squeal stopped for about 30 minutes of driving. Then it started up again
Does anyone have a good way to align pulleys? I have checked using a metal dowel, a straight edge etc. It looks good. But I could be off in angle. Anyone use a laser alignment system for conventional pulleys? Also, I have billet aluminum Pulleys.
Thanks
Last edited by smos001; 07/31/15 01:21 PM.
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Re: high rpm belt squeal- pulley align help
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08/01/15 01:27 AM
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RapidRobert
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is it squealing on the new pulleys?
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Re: high rpm belt squeal- pulley align help
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08/01/15 01:30 AM
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yella71
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Through the aluminum pulleys in the scrap pile. there's your problem.
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Re: high rpm belt squeal- pulley align help
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08/02/15 08:39 AM
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Did some more thinking... The fan clutch maybe something to look at. Before there were 2 belts around the fan. Now due to adding the AC Compressor I have only one. Maybe the big fan clutch is putting too much resistance on the belt.
What is the best fan clutch to replace mine. Is there a way to test a fan clutch? There are not great tests for the fan clutch but a few that can be done. First is easy - check for slop in the bearings. Another, is when cold and engine off, it should spin without too much resistance after a few turns to loosen it up. As far as clutches, the "loosest" was the MP viscous kit which does not seem to be available any more. A "heavy duty" clutch is made for the big 7 blade fan. It will tend to "lock up" more, especially with a lighter fan. I am thinking the "heavy duty" clutch probably wants 2 belts. I have recently used a Bouchillon thermal clutch with their 6 blade fan to to replace the MP unit and it works well with my "single belt" setup for the fan.
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Re: high rpm belt squeal- pulley align help
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08/08/15 03:07 PM
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RapidRobert
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turn it back around & you'll have the ans if it was loose or if the redirection fixed it
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Re: high rpm belt squeal- pulley align help
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08/08/15 06:01 PM
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Just went through a similar problem with my hot rod; it has a small diameter pulley on the alternator to increase the speed and, therefore, the output. The 3/8" belt didn't sit all the way down into the pulley groove, about .050-.060" of the belt sat above the groove. I replaced the pulley with one that was a little larger in diameter and a has a deeper groove.
I theorize that the increased current draw from the A/C increases the load on the alternator and causes the belt squeal.
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