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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: 72Swinger] #1566766
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Yeah pull off the boots. I used some 5/8" id 1" od tube with a hole drilled for a plug weld and also welded both ends. It cooked the grease out but thats what zerks are for. They move exactly as they did before after I welded it up then tossed it into a snow drift.


Cool, thanks for the tips! Will do this too now , cheers

Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: dangina] #1566767
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I am curious, why do u shorten the moog links? Sure you sway bar isn't perfectly level and you lose about an in of ground clearance, I'd their a reason that I'm missing. I put them on my car, I don't see a huge gain by shortening them

Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #1859446
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lol I was the last person to post on this old subject. I'm curious how these endlinks having been holding up for you guys? It got me thinking, why couldn't you cut the bar out between the two heads completely and weld the two heads together? just make sure they are ground flat on the backside, I think this would be better than trying to cut and weld a small piece inbetween. this will enable you to weld easier, get a stronger weld, and should probably shorten this to get the 3" we need...

Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #1859455
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You could do that just fine, it all depends on the length you need I had to space mine down to clear the strut rods in my car and my swaybar is slightly pointing down from parallel with the ground at ride height. Throw it into a corner and it will be parallel.


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #1859527
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I'm on my second set. The first set developed some play in the joints. Total mileage on hemi swap is ~7500 miles with ~50 track sessions at an average 20 min each, etc. Maybe they lasted for half that number.


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Mopar Mitch] #1861758
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Originally Posted By Mopar Mitch
Trjnmn -- the Moogs are durable parts and Moog carries a high-quality aftermarket reputation for the great majority of their parts. The only issue here, is that they are stock-type (actually better than stock) replacement parts... BUT.. they don't offer the "adjustability" in their length for equalizing the pre-load if so desired. With the factory type design, using washer spacers to equalize the end link attachments will get better finite results. Again, this is just "fine-tuning" the setup. How much will someone notice?... When fractions of seconds add up, that will be the difference.

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I have .006" thick washers that I can use as shims, how finite do you need to be? Tim


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #1861955
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For best "finite" setup, first get the car 4-wheel corner balanced with the sway bar end-links disconnected.... goal is to get the lf/rf, and lr/rr corners, matched best as possible with the driver's weight in the driver's seat, as well as the car loaded as you'd typically drive (or race) it (...how much fuel, trunk stuff, etc tbd by you). Then, match the sway bar end links so that they equally get attached. You'd be surprised to see the difference in pre-load the sway bar can make if the end links are not equally matched to prevent excessive pre-load from one side to the other. IF you're using stock-type end links, use extra bushing washers to best match them up. Adjustable threaded (heim-type) end-links would be the best whenever possible.

when corner weight balancing a car, don't be concerned about body height lines, etc .. your prime concern is the weight shown on each of the four scales.. again.. lf/rf, lr/rr.


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Mopar Mitch] #1863041
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I would love to get a set of scales and play around with these settings!

Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #1863174
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From the looks of it, I would go with the Moog and cut the end of the threaded stem to shorten the length. Tim


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: 72Swinger] #1864674
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i like tire pressure !! how about tires ??? I went from nitto to toyo proxy wow night and day !! 69 charger 295/ 45 /18 suv tires 500 rwhp no sway bar !! car does not come around handles and plants like traction control !! I'm very very happy street car !!!


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: sparcy] #1865457
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Originally Posted By sparcy
i like tire pressure !! how about tires ??? I went from nitto to toyo proxy wow night and day !! 69 charger 295/ 45 /18 suv tires 500 rwhp no sway bar !! car does not come around handles and plants like traction control !! I'm very very happy street car !!!

Front and rear the same size?


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #2026299
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I am wondering how these have been working for you? So how have these lasted? Have you had any clearance issues? Did you trim them? I am wondering if I move the mount up an inch on the control arm to correct the sway bar angle. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks, Tim

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Bought these today:



5.5" from mount to mount:



Side by side pictures:



Will let y'all know how these fit


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #2027573
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I have them on, and they hang down low, but i think I'll cut the whole center out and weld the two heads together, they have the perfect bevel for it smile

pic of how low she hangs


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #2027971
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Nice.

Just FYI- it doesn't take long for the joints to develop slop. I'm on my second set currently.


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Image shows how far they hang down.



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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #2028282
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Dan, did you make bushings for your eyes? Looks good.
Not the best pic but you can see how short mine are. They have about 1500 miles on them and are still tight.

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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: dangina] #2028341
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Originally Posted By dangina
I have them on, and they hang down low, but i think I'll cut the whole center out and weld the two heads together, they have the perfect bevel for it smile

pic of how low she hangs


which part number did you install? would it be possible to install taller mounts on the control arm? I don't have my car along enough to find out...Tim


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Re: Solid sway bar end links? Who makes them? [Re: Uhcoog1] #2028349
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i believe they were the moog ones mentioned above, if i remember the studs are 1/2" and the holes one the hellwig were slightly bigger which then had slop. I drilled them out for the 1/2" bushings, then shaved them down to the bar. I figured this way they can wear out the bushing instead of the bar.







One could weld on higher mounts to compensate for this but I fear that the law of physics plays more havock on a long one compared to a shortened one, like a long lever vs a short one. Don't quote me on that as physics was not my strong suit:) I didn't do this as when these were discovered, I already welded up my LCAS and powdercoated them. I did strengthen the bracket and added to the sides as I read that some guys here were bending the brackets on their arms with the larger sized sway bars.





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