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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: JohnRR] #186517
01/07/09 07:36 PM
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my car's 60ft is better when it jumps up in the air and sets down real smooth like it does

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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: MOPARCHAS] #186518
01/07/09 07:54 PM
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I think most everyone that pulls the tires understands the situation that you can go faster with less. I also think that it is done because we want to. So, I think all the bla, bla. bla about how someone who does like some air is wasting this that or the other is wasting their time to point it out. As long as you run consistent, what does it matter what you run? I don't see win lights come on for running a new national record for a pure stock supertuned 340 in a packmule. The more I get it up, the better I like it.

Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. why? [Re: Monte_Smith] #186519
01/07/09 07:59 PM
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Usually depends on the power level. If the car has enough power to work the tire and the chassis, all that weight transfer is not needed and is just wasted motion. Lower powered cars need the weight transfer to plant the tire and work the suspension. I will catch flack for this next comment, but don't care. IMO, if your car runs 9s and it has to carry the frontend fairly high to 60ft good, it is setup wrong. Gear, converter, suspension, something is wrong. SS/AH cars always get mentioned in this debate. Some carry the front, some don't, so they can work either way, but in my own experience, the closer you keep the tires to the ground, the quicker you go. Tack a sail on the front of your car for 80 feet and see if it slows it down. I'm betting yes.

Monte





Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. why? [Re: Monte_Smith] #186520
01/07/09 08:01 PM
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Clutch cars hit the tire harder, so on the whole, they need less travel. Stockers are limited on what they can do. Travel limiters are not legal, but I don't how close they police bump stop height, length and that sort of thing. SS cars can do whatever, as far as limiters.

Monte




Problem is it is not policed, unless you are a class racer and know what it takes to make the car 60ft.you will never understand, Big difference between a bracket car and a class car

Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. why? [Re: sixpackbee] #186521
01/07/09 09:01 PM
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Bob looking at your picture it looks like my harmless low compression 340 can hang the hoops as high as your car with that funny looking big engine in there.


If your going by my picture in the post then you obiviously haven't seen my car much.Try Chaz 1 wheelstand or Bob George wheelstand on youtube or ask Wild Bill to post some of the foot brake stands at PRP.Better yet ask Grant.Then talk about what your car can do compaired to mine.I had mine higher in second gear than yours if it fell of a lift backwards.Not trying to demean you efforts Hogar,but you seem so matter of fact in your post.I think that anyone here that have seen my car will disagree with you.Not that it's important since giant wheelstands don't win races,just put on a good show. If We want and have we can carry the wheels past the 330' and We have seen Curt walk it out to the 1/8 in years past with less motor.Top that

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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: B G Racing] #186522
01/07/09 09:12 PM
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I'm not personally fond of ring gear mountaineering myself, and like Monte said it's usually a lower power car climbing the ring gear, but it sure does looks cool, and I've got friends who wouldn't trade 2 tenths in better ET for a reasonable launch.

Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: dthemi] #186523
01/07/09 09:18 PM
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On the parachute mount
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my wheelie bars are set at 11" off the ground, my car makes its quickest passes when the wheels DO NOT touch the ground....

this is TOO HIGH, see the bars are touching



THis is a lot better, the bars are barely NOT touching


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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: n20mstr] #186524
01/07/09 09:21 PM
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my wheelie bars are set at 11" off the ground, my car makes its quickest passes when the wheels DO NOT touch the ground....





with everything except the wheelie bars.
Wheelie bars are for the guys with no clangers.


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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: SKR8PN] #186525
01/07/09 09:24 PM
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my wheelie bars are set at 11" off the ground, my car makes its quickest passes when the wheels DO NOT touch the ground....





with everything except the wheelie bars.
Wheelie bars are for the guys with no clangers.




Dont get me going on this argument LOL LOL
I dont want to wreck my car just to say "i have NO bars"
Id hate to see you wreck your car over that


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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: dthemi] #186526
01/07/09 09:26 PM
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The basic rule of thumb is when you run out of Hp and climb the ring gear wheelstands are the usual result.The exception is an over abundance of torque and Hp will cause a wheelstand.When you run out of torque and Hp the wheelstands are generally short on duration.A high torque/hp combo can wheelstand at will and will carry many times even through the gear changes.The best results can be achieves with a stock or SS is to only lift enough to get your needed weight transfer.Most chassis style cars do not need to lift,the transfer is built into the chassis and some times wheelspin will produce better ETs and MPH.Dead hook some time causes a hesitation and et loss.

Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: B G Racing] #186527
01/07/09 09:38 PM
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This a pic of mine..........I have been told before "hey,,your car leaves like a brick" then after they look at the 60',,they say,,oh, i guess that isnt too bad (my 60' is only 1.40,,but for me,,it's ok)


Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: n20mstr] #186528
01/07/09 09:45 PM
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my wheelie bars are set at 11" off the ground, my car makes its quickest passes when the wheels DO NOT touch the ground....





with everything except the wheelie bars.
Wheelie bars are for the guys with no clangers.




Dont get me going on this argument LOL LOL
I dont want to wreck my car just to say "i have NO bars"
Id hate to see you wreck your car over that





That is why God invented the four link.
I can adjust the car to not wheelstand, or I can put it on the bumper. I like to find a happy medium that lets the car 60ft and ET competitively, while still putting a smile on my face.


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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: weedlayer] #186529
01/07/09 09:48 PM
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Great Neck,LI,new york
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The more I get it up, the better I like it.



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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. why? [Re: sixpackbee] #186530
01/07/09 09:55 PM
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BROOK PARK, OH
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Bob looking at your picture it looks like my harmless low compression 340 can hang the hoops as high as your car with that funny looking big engine in there.




Than take a look at this






Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. why? [Re: WILD BILL] #186531
01/07/09 10:08 PM
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I can sum this up in 3 word's,,,Wheelies are fun!


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: B G Racing] #186532
01/07/09 10:26 PM
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f your going by my picture in the post then you obiviously haven't seen my car much.Try Chaz 1 wheelstand or Bob George wheelstand on youtube or ask Wild Bill to post some of the foot brake stands at PRP.Better yet ask Grant.Then talk about what your car can do compaired to mine.I had mine higher in second gear than yours if it fell of a lift backwards.Not trying to demean you efforts Hogar,but you seem so matter of fact in your post.I think that anyone here that have seen my car will disagree with you.Not that it's important since giant wheelstands don't win races,just put on a good show. If We want and have we can carry the wheels past the 330' and We have seen Curt walk it out to the 1/8 in years past with less motor.Top that



Jesh, you Hemi guys are sensitive. I know what your car can do. Just picking. Sort of like you telling me I chase my tail.


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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: sixpackbee] #186533
01/07/09 10:34 PM
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I think Bob just missed his nap today




Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. why? [Re: WILD BILL] #186534
01/07/09 10:45 PM
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Re: Question about pulling the front end on take off.. [Re: hemi-itis] #186535
01/07/09 11:17 PM
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The more I get it up, the better I like it.





We are talking about getting the wheels up.And Hogar I'am not sensitive,the way you worded your post seem to come off as you were stating a fact.Try adding a or or or or to express your intent.If you want me to take it light hearted express it that way.We have kidded each other quite often.That the white car with wheels up is Curt's legesy that he left us,I think you can understand my being a little defensive in my response.Keep chasing your tail and maybe your name will appear in the obscure back pages of National Dragster that no one reads.Maybe in a class win where more than one car shows up and if you make it to the eliminater rounds.The rewards for a lot of effort and dollars spent.I can bust balls to,only I'am doing it with Don't be so sensitive,Looking forward to having you visit,I

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