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11.99 ENGINE DIAPER (update) #1863271
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT..

Since we are getting closer to opening we want to announce that we are making it MANDATORY that any car in any class that is quicker than 11.99 on the 1/4 mile or 7.60 in the 1/8th mile, MUST HAVE A ENGINE DIAPER. These are available at Summit and Jeg's as well as J&J Joe West, and we may stock them also. We will check for them on the car before giving out a Tech Approval sticker. Thanks in advance for your co-operation.

well after all post about it on facebook and other places they changed the rule to 9.99 and fast

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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863282
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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863352
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Yeah thats pretty rough, I do not doubt the value of an engine diaper and will add one to my car when it becomes needed due to ET. I don't know the lay of the land near dragway 42 but if that was my home track I would probably be looking at my other track options before I messed with a diaper on my 11 second street car.

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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863363
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I can't argue against the added safety aspect of an engine diaper, and I did put one on my car (9.00 ET) this year. But I feel the engines in 11.99 cars are not the oil down problem and it puts excessive cost on the slower cars. Those diapers the track is talking about won't fit on a Mopar A-body with a big block engine.

I got one custom made by Russlerii for $168. This fits a center sump in an A-body with factory steering link under the rear of the pan. I recommend him for a sportsman diaper. Great service too.
http://www.russlerii.com/

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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: 440Jim] #1863369
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Everyone get ready as I heard that this will be the norm very soon from NHRA. Dragway 42 is getting out in front but it will become a requirement in the not too distant future at all NHRA tracks.


I can see this for cars that are 10.0 or quicker (maybe) but they are getting really stupid now with the requirement for those ET's.

Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: max_maniac] #1863374
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their nuts if they think people are going to run diapers on their street cars. NHRA will finish off this sport all together if they keep this up.

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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863390
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Believe most of these are track decisions..... Either way, Russ is a good guy. He started this as a hobby to help his nostalgia racing buddies and it blossomed from there. I am fortunate to live near him and he came over and custom built my diaper for my W8 mill.


Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863396
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I have been avoiding it, but it looks like our backs are against the wall at almost every track now. I don't disagree that it is a useful safety item on the quicker cars, but there are lots of street cars that are faster than 11.99 and these people will not spend the money on a diaper, they will just go back to street racing.

At the Victory NSS Series opener in St. Louis they announced that next year it will be mandatory to run in any of their races. DRE is one of the sponsors now and is offering a discount for Victory Series racers.... Of course my low deck wedge with 4 speed in my 68 Cuda will require a custom $500+ diaper.... Been thinking about a belly pan instead, but cant see a way to make it work on my car.

To make it worse, I recently picked up a windowed Keith Black block that I plan on repairing. If I bite the bullet now and buy one for a low deck, I will have to buy another one for the KB block in a year or two......

Oh well, their play ground, their rules.....

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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863403
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I don't know, I've seen my share of car's in the guardrails and car's going through the lights on the roof over the last 40 years to think it's not a bad idea. I'm rebuilding my 64 Fairlane for my daughter to run 11.50s, it will have diaper on it and I will be putting one on the Plymouth as well.


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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: GTSDave] #1863408
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Originally Posted By GTSDave
I have been avoiding it, but it looks like our backs are against the wall at almost every track now. I don't disagree that it is a useful safety item on the quicker cars, but there are lots of street cars that are faster than 11.99 and these people will not spend the money on a diaper, they will just go back to street racing.

At the Victory NSS Series opener in St. Louis they announced that next year it will be mandatory to run in any of their races. DRE is one of the sponsors now and is offering a discount for Victory Series racers.... Of course my low deck wedge with 4 speed in my 68 Cuda will require a custom $500+ diaper.... Been thinking about a belly pan instead, but cant see a way to make it work on my car.

To make it worse, I recently picked up a windowed Keith Black block that I plan on repairing. If I bite the bullet now and buy one for a low deck, I will have to buy another one for the KB block in a year or two......

Oh well, their play ground, their rules.....

-Dave





You should be fine with the same diaper for both blocks if you plan on running the same style pan. The straps are very adjustable.


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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863409
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I want to put one on my Cuda, but the price is prohibitive and the fit is a concern. We must run factory steering in NSS, and I worry about the diaper clearance.

If I could run one of the $200 ones, and not have issues with the steering, I would already have one on my car. There isn't much room, even with semi fenderwell headers, everything on the drivers side is a PIA. Took me nearly an hour at the St. Louis race this year to tighten the battery cable on the starter. Would have been one hell of a fight with a diaper!

This winter I will be ordering one, unless I can figure out a way to put a belly pan on it.

-Dave


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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: pittsburghracer] #1863415
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer


You should be fine with the same diaper for both blocks if you plan on running the same style pan. The straps are very adjustable.


When I build the new engine I will probably be going from a wedge to a HEMI. The block is an old HEMI water block i got on the cheap. I e-mailed KB about it to find out more info, and price out new sleeves, but never heard back from them. It is definitely a ways in the future but it would suck to have to buy two....

-Dave


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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863419
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Good thing I'm not a class racer, I don't have to deal with this kinda thing.


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PRP (IHRA) has already warned us to give us a head-start getting our cars fitted for them. Its coming to a track near you real soon.


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I have to move 3 of my header tubes to get one on my small block with hedmen headers and a Milidon oil pan. Not a real big project.


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Originally Posted By crabman173
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Got a ballastic cloth unit for my front engine dragster fits like a dream--on and off in seconds--The Best!


Well DUH your blanket comes off in seconds...... Suppose your giong to praise how easily your headers come off too. Pipe rack...... Difficulty level: zero!

Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: pittsburghracer] #1863520
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I have to move 3 of my header tubes to get one on my small block with hedmen headers and a Milidon oil pan. Not a real big project.


Are you sure a little creativity won't work?

I bought mine from Ram Jet Racing and he put high heat material where it is close to the header and then I used 1/8 aluminum plate to keep the diaper against the block. I have very little clearance is a couple of spots.


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Originally Posted By markz528
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I have to move 3 of my header tubes to get one on my small block with hedmen headers and a Milidon oil pan. Not a real big project.


Are you sure a little creativity won't work?

I bought mine from Ram Jet Racing and he put high heat material where it is close to the header and then I used 1/8 aluminum plate to keep the diaper against the block. I have very little clearance is a couple of spots.



I was already creative with a 4 pound hammer just to get the dog-gone headers on the car with that pan. I even bought a Canton oil pan last year to try it BUT that was a major mistake, but that's another story.


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: 11.99 ENGINE DIAPER [Re: theraif] #1863559
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I agree on a street car is a little over kill. However you don't need to spend $500 to get a custom well fitting diaper. I bought custom one made by Russlerii for $168. It comes off in less than 5 minutes. When I built my car I figured the rule was coming. Not to mention I've had 2 friends kick rods with NO track clean-up require.
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