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#1832092 - 05/22/15 10:28 AM 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion
Silver70 Offline
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I bought this car over a month ago on ehay. Looked too cool for the price to pass up and wasn't much info in the auction. Someone talked me into buying it, so took a chance without more info since it was in the south west. I figured worst case good parts car. Well it arrived, floor was shot, lots of wiring and stuff I didn't like plus a slant 6/3 speed with a floor shifter I couldn't shift well laugh2 I didn't want to put $ into a 4 door so decided instead of cutting up for parts, I'd make it into something I'd like.

So here it is, the not as easy a the older b-body 4 to 2 door conversion.

How it looked when it arrived:


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#1832093 - 05/22/15 10:31 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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Time to start cutting!


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#1832094 - 05/22/15 10:33 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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Roof had to go


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#1832095 - 05/22/15 10:35 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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More metal removal


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99 Trans Am, 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD

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#1832100 - 05/22/15 10:37 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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And the donor and roof section


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340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z
99 Trans Am, 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD

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#1832103 - 05/22/15 10:39 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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And with a little help setting in place, the roof section went on fairly easy


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99 Trans Am, 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD

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#1832106 - 05/22/15 10:41 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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All welded at pinch weld and so on... and new quarter starting to be installed


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340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z
99 Trans Am, 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD

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#1832108 - 05/22/15 10:42 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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Quarters fit so good, goodmark, that I got them and the deck filler done in an afternoon... still some welding to finish, but more than happy with how well it went


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340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z
99 Trans Am, 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD

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#1832115 - 05/22/15 10:46 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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That's as far as I got on it in the last week or so now. My garage is too full so have to work on it outside. Weather didn't agree yesterday.

I can say it wasn't the easiest conversion, but definitely not the most difficult either. I still have to change the roof skin. I wanted to use a structure that was all one piece to keep things square.

I was told I was crazy for taking doing this... but I don't think it was any worse than doing full frame rails and such.
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99 Trans Am, 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD

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#1832124 - 05/22/15 10:59 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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will be watching this one. popcorn crazy? maybe so, but isn't anyone messing with old cars?
you got some mad skills there! sawzall weld primer thumbs
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#1832132 - 05/22/15 11:10 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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Very nice! I'd have done the same thing...if I had your welding and fabrication skills, lol.
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#1832150 - 05/22/15 11:41 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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I already have two 2 doors, but both I couldn't justify cutting/modifying to do what I wanted with. The satellite is already redone and way too original... my roadrunner is 95% plus original sheetmetal. So figured with this I'd have no problem putting in a rollbar, minitub it and so on. It will be a street car, but more of a track car.

It really was easy in my mind, just a ton of cutting and drilling. I did the apillars to the factory spots. The rear panels to rocker and wheel houses, they were in between, so I overlapped and welded in place... reason for the seam sealer. That and I wasn't going for a perfect factory look. This was far less work than drilling thousands of spot welds to use the good panels on a rusty car.

I learned how to do body work on wrecked cars. Doing clip, rad supports etc. So this was really no different than that. When it's done it will look just like any other 2 door and you'd really have to look to tell it was a 4 door... or look at the vin laugh2

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#1832256 - 05/22/15 01:34 PM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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Wait, who's this fool that "talked" you into that car???
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#1832522 - 05/22/15 09:01 PM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: 70440+6bbl]
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Ha! At first I thought yeah that guy is nuts. But really this is a great project and another 69 stays on the road. Kudo's!

Sheldon
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#1832635 - 05/23/15 12:09 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: 70440+6bbl]
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Originally Posted By 70440+6bbl
Wait, who's this fool that "talked" you into that car???


The same guy who told me to put the pipe down I was smoking when I said I was going to do this laugh2

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#1832637 - 05/23/15 12:12 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: RUNCHARGER]
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Originally Posted By RUNCHARGER
Ha! At first I thought yeah that guy is nuts. But really this is a great project and another 69 stays on the road. Kudo's!

Sheldon


When I was all in pieces I felt like I was nuts. Had it been solid and not needing rust repair, I probably would have left it a 4 door. But 2 of the 4 doors are damaged, floors front to back and the rear window opening was shot including the corner sections that are part of the quarters. Then the package tray was all hacked up too.

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#1833485 - 05/24/15 08:14 PM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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You're a better man than I. I'd have bet money you couldn't convert that vintage. Whole lot more difficult than the early-mid 60's b bodies. Well done!
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#1833531 - 05/24/15 09:20 PM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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Your not the only one who thought that. I have plenty of b-bodies around to look at plus built quite a few over the years... so did all my research by comparing them on my own. I couldn't find much info on the differences. There are more things I got to do to finish the conversion, like the rockers dip in where the post previously was. But the hard parts definitely done. Now to get some other cars done in the shop, so I can get it inside and do some body work.

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#1851005 - 06/17/15 10:09 AM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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SW PA isn't too far for me...I may have to ride up and check this out...As you found out its much easier to hack up something with no real value than something rare and original...Nice Job thus far... up
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#1851280 - 06/17/15 06:12 PM Re: 69 Belvedere 4 door to 2 door conversion [Re: Silver70]
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A frankenbee sold on ebay once, they'd split a superbee horizontally to get rid of lower body rust and welded that to the bottom from a 4-door.

It has a WM23M9A VIN on it when finished.


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