Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: griff70440]
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Mike, what size cam , what spring pressure, what size springs, these things can mean the difference between being able to use the Harland Sharps and needing the Jesel, T&D's. John
8.72 @ 154.6 ,68 Charger 578ci 440-1s, 3000# w/drvr, 2150 den/alt NA
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: griff70440]
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Harland Sharp seems to be popular with some builders but they aren't inexpensive either.I decided to go with an old set of Isky irons and have them bushed and corrected at RAS. Gus
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: Mopar_racer_99]
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Mike, what size cam , what spring pressure, what size springs, these things can mean the difference between being able to use the Harland Sharps and needing the Jesel, T&D's. John
HS's are nice pieces
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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wow, I just checked out the price of Harland Sharps complete set up $1090. Jesel are 1955 plus the 150 to mill and set up head. John
8.72 @ 154.6 ,68 Charger 578ci 440-1s, 3000# w/drvr, 2150 den/alt NA
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: Ari440]
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01/03/09 07:53 PM
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the -1s take a offset rocker,don`t they?
440-1 harland sharp rockers are offset
I think he is putting -1s on and wants a cheaper offset rocker.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: blownzoom440]
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what rollar cam lift and duration spring presure open and closed
this will determine what rocker to use
my 715/280 rollar took out two H/S rockers
soon I will have cnc 345s and will use jesel setup for them
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: griff70440]
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01/03/09 08:11 PM
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The Harland Sharps will work just fine, I sell tons of them and have used them for over 20 years. When you get over the approximate 800-850 open pressure, its time for Jesel od T-D. Some of the H/S will go 1000#, but not the Mopars.
You could just re-use your exhaust rockers and buy intakes only.
I am going to run my annual H/S rocker deal starting next week. I can save you on a complete set or price just the intakes, but I think you'll see its worth your while to get a whole set as opposed to getting individual rockers.
I will shoot you a PM.
I'll advertise my sale at the beginning of the week.
Thanks
Todd
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: Ari440]
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01/03/09 08:13 PM
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ARI...those should have been fine. I have been running them for years on .780 cams and zero problems.
Do you still have the broken ones? I'd like to look at them if you dont mind..on my nickel.
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
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I have to look for them ,I migth have thrown them out ,not sure thougth
one rocker split in two and the other one was striped at the threads
I ended up putting a solid cam back for now
also the rockers had miles/runs on them
do they fagtige (sp) over a period of time ?
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: Ari440]
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Yes, they can definately fatigue. It makes more sense now that you mention they have "miles" on them. They are excellent pieces in my opinion, but like anything, yes they can break over time but I would have to assume they have had a more than useful life. I just dont see them break without an explanation of oil starvation, too much spring, binding conditions, plugged oil holes, over-revved etc.
I just took a set off a car last year that I know had 17 years on them. It did finally break one and it was time to call it quits.Put a new set on and hope the customer can get another 17 years!
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Re: BB Rocker Arms?
[Re: AndyF]
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Thats a good thought as well. EZ's and SRs also use the standard rocker set up you have.
The -1s will obviously make more power if that is in the plans later on.
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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