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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 70Duster440] #1809174
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and that can be an issue if you are using the vehicle to go around corners, but my Ramcharger will only be going in a straight line and I will be happy to leave the front sway bar and all the brackets off (weight savings of course). I may even use heavy wire cable to limit the suspension travel on launch. I will compare the '86 Ramcharger sway bar to the one on the '87 D100 and go for the thickest one on the '87. Different horses for different courses.
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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1818212
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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1818479
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Hey everyone, i could really use some help! I did the van LCA swap and am running into some problems. The main issue is the tie rod angle and position is all out of whack. here are some pictures so you can all see whats going on. I need to get this thing on the road, so any help is GREATLY appreciated!!!

About the truck: its a 72 d100, but its somewhat special. it is a pre-production vehicle with alot of special factory options. Concerning the problems im having, it had factory power disc brakes said to be the same as whats used on a 70 superbird. im thinking that the outer tie rod mounts are maybe not the same as whats on a regular truck? i dont know, but please help out with some comparison pictures and suggestions, thanks! (ill add a pic of the truck itself at the bottom)

















as you can see, the tie rods are angled wayyyyy too much and are in danger of hitting and binding up on all sorts of things

and here is the truck



Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1820971
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does anyone have any information on flipping the tie rod to the bottom? seems like the only viable solution. I know they make bump steer kits to do this, but i cant find a specific application. has anyone actually done it before??

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: justin412] #1821323
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I was looking at my '86 Ramcharger after I saw your pictures and my tie-rods are mounted above the steering arm like yours are. If you were to mount the tie rod from below you would have to use a tapered reamer to ream the steering arm to accept the tie rod. And that would probably make it too loose a fit to work. Perhaps you could adapt a tie rod with a larger diameter stud to do that. Did you cut the coil spring along with the LCA swap to create your problem? You may find that you will have to buy new springs to get it closer to stock and forgo the extreme drop. Thinking further outside the box, you could adapt a rack & pinion steering to the truck, solve one problem and create more headaches to deal with. Sorry I can't help more.


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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1821782
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Are those the Dakota drop spindles ?
Have you checked your bump steer ?

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1822617
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yeah, i trimmed about a half of a coil off, but it shouldnt make that huge of a difference i wouldnt think..rack and pinion would be a good option, but sounds like a good amount of work and $$. thanks for the suggestions though!

and no, those are the stock spindles that came on this truck, and no, i havent checked my bump steer. not sure how to even do that..

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1823234
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So you are running van LCAs with cut coils.

Probably should have mentioned that in your first post about this issue. Put some stock coils back in.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Cooter] #1823652
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i like to rebuild the front on my rc so that will be about 3 in , like to do the rear only a couple inches but not get involved with a axle flip

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1823855
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I just looked at my "89 D100 that I cut 1 1/2 coils on. My tie rod sleeves are sitting behind the idler and Pittman arms, not under. my steering linkage looks different from yours. I'll try to post some pics later.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1830309
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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1888484
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Thanks for the lowering info. Just completed lowering my 79 step side with 3/4 ton van control arms from Rock Auto, shocks and sway bar bushings from my local NAPA, and spring perches from
J C Whitney. You blog sure helped a bunch. Pictures to follow after I get the 360 in. Thanks again!

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1976563
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Hi there,

sorry for stirring this up again, but i have a question that is right at home in this thread:

I wonder whether steering arms of trucks or vans bolt up to a B-body or FMJ-body "tall" spindle.

According to Rockauto, a 74-76 Monaco (for example) shares the upper and lower ball joints with a D150 (K7025 lower, K778 upper).
They also share the wheel bearings.

Magnum Force makes nice drop spindles for the B,F,M,J cars and it would be nice to be able to use that stuff with stock truck steering arms.

Thanks,
Alex

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Originally Posted By kingcrunch
Hi there,

sorry for stirring this up again, but i have a question that is right at home in this thread:

I wonder whether steering arms of trucks or vans bolt up to a B-body or FMJ-body "tall" spindle.

According to Rockauto, a 74-76 Monaco (for example) shares the upper and lower ball joints with a D150 (K7025 lower, K778 upper).
They also share the wheel bearings.

Magnum Force makes nice drop spindles for the B,F,M,J cars and it would be nice to be able to use that stuff with stock truck steering arms.

Thanks,
Alex
I don't think the Monaco is a b body I think it's a c body

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 72d100] #1976672
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I don't think the Monaco is a b body I think it's a c body

'75-'78 ROYAL Monaco and GRAN Fury were C-bodies.

Without the 'Royal' or 'Gran', they were indeed B-bodies.

ROYAL Monaco =



MONACO =




As for the original question, I have no idea......


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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 72d100] #1976733
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Originally Posted By 72d100
Originally Posted By kingcrunch
Hi there,

sorry for stirring this up again, but i have a question that is right at home in this thread:

I wonder whether steering arms of trucks or vans bolt up to a B-body or FMJ-body "tall" spindle.

According to Rockauto, a 74-76 Monaco (for example) shares the upper and lower ball joints with a D150 (K7025 lower, K778 upper).
They also share the wheel bearings.

Magnum Force makes nice drop spindles for the B,F,M,J cars and it would be nice to be able to use that stuff with stock truck steering arms.

Thanks,
Alex
I don't think the Monaco is a b body I think it's a c body


I almost knew i had made a mistake at some point... anybody know of c-body drop spindles?

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: kingcrunch] #1976780
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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #1976860
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Another question would be are there any differences between the stock B,C and truck spindles?

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Originally Posted By moparborn
Another question would be are there any differences between the stock B,C and truck spindles?

Yes, There is a big difference. Only certain "C" body cars use the same rotor and bearings but the ball joints are different, like a 73 Fury, "B" body cars use a completely different ball joints, spindles, wheel bearings and rotor. Plus the steering arm from the truck will not bolt to the "B" spindle. That's a few things I found out.

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