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Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1817926
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Did you have someone turn the steering wheel while you looked under the car at the idler ?

And maybe jack up the front so the wheels are off the ground and cycle the steering back and forth again and see what you feel.

You could pull the column and try spinning it around then and see how it feels on it's own, along with grabbing a tire and swinging it left to right with the steering column attached and off to see if you feel anything different. Try and maybe narrow things down some ?

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Originally Posted By OzHemi
Did you have someone turn the steering wheel while you looked under the car at the idler ?

And maybe jack up the front so the wheels are off the ground and cycle the steering back and forth again and see what you feel.

You could pull the column and try spinning it around then and see how it feels on it's own, along with grabbing a tire and swinging it left to right with the steering column attached and off to see if you feel anything different. Try and maybe narrow things down some ?


Not yet. With my schedule it's almost impossible for me to do something like that. Aside from bringing it to a mechanic, I have no means to properly lift it and evaluate. I just went out and took some pictures, though. Just found out that I have to post them elsewhere before I can link them here. smile

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1817931
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Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1817932
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Oh, and jacking it up and supporting it with jack stands would do the trick to just cycle things back and forth..

But understand how when things are busy time gets time. (In another month I'll be non stop loading containers again too, luckily I have time like now to do stuff laugh2)

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Thanks!

Here is the pass side.

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Pass side

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Adjusting bracket

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1817940
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Driver's side closeup

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Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1817942
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Are those metal shavings in the last pic all over the place?

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Two of the exhaust clearance. Not great pics but the best I could get with the car on the ground.

Idler Exhaust Tight.jpgSteering Linkage tight.jpg
Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: OzHemi] #1817950
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Originally Posted By OzHemi
Are those metal shavings in the last pic all over the place?


I hadn't noticed that. That was the driver's side. I'll have to check it out.

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1817952
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If they are, I wouldn't be too impressed with the workmanship if they left it like that after working on it....

Just a little thing that would bug me as an attention to detail/cleaning up a job after being done.

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1817953
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And sorta looks like there is exhaust clearance...little hard to say for sure. Laying on the ground while someone turns the steering from lock to lock would help too..

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1818031
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I took it for a drive.

First of all, the car drives really nicely. Smooth and very balanced when I was doing a little slalom. It brakes better! I guess the better suspension is allowing the wheels and brakes to do their job better.

At higher speeds it really holds the road nicely.

However, here are the issues I noticed:

1. At low speeds if I turn the wheel 1/2 turn to the right, the wheel gets stuck and will not budge towards a return to center on its own.

2. At low speeds if I turn the wheel 1/2 turn to the left, it drags and reluctantly returns to center.

3. Throughout the lock to lock, there are points where it "sticks" and points where it moves easily. The major sticking points seem to be 1/2 turn in either direction.

I took a video of the car making a right turn (one turn of the steering wheel). I released the wheel to let it center on its own. It turns back a little at first, then it jumps about 1/4 of a turn, and then it gets stuck at the 1/2 point where I had to grab the wheel or else I would have hit the curb.

Of course it doesn't help that I'm leaking exhaust and probably getting CO poisoning while I'm driving. smile Ahh, old cars!

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1818050
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I had a similar problem with my 69 Barracuda steering arm hitting my Dougs Headers. Very disconcerting, same problems you described. Finally switched it to stock manifolds...

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1818067
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Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1818177
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Originally Posted By JF_Moparts

Corey at Hotchkis did say that a bushing in my steering column is worn and he suggested getting a new/rebuilt column. He also said he had to remove my steering wheel and remount it to get it properly centered.

Jim


I am surprised that Corey said to remount the steering wheel to recenter it. Stock Mopar steering wheel/column shaft have a master spline setup and if the wheel isn't centered the tie rods are misadjusted. IOW, you cannot remount the steering wheel to center it.


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Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1818428
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Glad they have a functioning tech center, their parts to customer process is in some cases "crappy". Ordered 1.5" billet swaybar bushing kit for my front swaybar in November and just got another "postponed" letter from Car ID that it will be another week. I think Milodon was quicker....


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It sounds like something in your steering box.
The hydraulic system makes the same power turning left as it does when turning right. It's enough assist to overcome anything sticking in the column.


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Originally Posted By feets
It sounds like something in your steering box.
The hydraulic system makes the same power turning left as it does when turning right. It's enough assist to overcome anything sticking in the column.



I need to get the exhaust sorted out and confirm there are no clearance issues. I might just move this to a new thread because we're outside the realm of anything Hotchkis related.

I appreciate the advice so far from all - thanks.

ps - I REALLY hope it's not the box. That's a new unit from Firm Feel and it's not easy to remove & reinstall that thing.

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How much caster if any?


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Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: 72Swinger] #1818914
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Originally Posted By 72Swinger
How much caster if any?


The caster is set to +5 degrees.

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