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Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? #1804381
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I'm about to take my Satellite to Hotchkis for some suspension & steering analysis and upgrades. I was wondering if anyone else had brought their car into Hotchkis for work like this.

I'm looking forward to getting my car back into Autocross mode!

Jim

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My Dart is there right now. biggrin They seem good to work with and want only the best for your vehicle. They're easy to communicate with as well.

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1804399
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Nope, no one

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post1592870

If I had the bux they'd be having my Cuda.


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Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1804424
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And don't forget Tomswheels Valiant!

But its always great to meet folks face to face and take care of their cars. We are all car guys and love to have the opportunity to make customers cars into the vehicles of their dreams!

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: JF_Moparts] #1804573
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Originally Posted By JF_Moparts
I'm about to take my Satellite to Hotchkis for some suspension & steering analysis and upgrades. I was wondering if anyone else had brought their car into Hotchkis for work like this.

I'm looking forward to getting my car back into Autocross mode!

Jim


Saw your Satellite over at North Hollywood Auto and saw the stuff you went through.

I didn't give me a good impression of those headman shorty headers at all. That was a mess.

And something with the clocking on the long pitman arm?

Jim, what is the milage you are putting on that car per year?

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Originally Posted By Supercuda
Nope, no one

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post1592870

If I had the bux they'd be having my Cuda.


That facility is in North Carolina. The one JF and Muu are talking about is in Santa Fe Springs, California.

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Both facilities are top notch. I put in a lot of hours at both smile

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Steve,

I'm not putting many miles on the car at all. Probably less than 6,000 miles a year.

The headers you saw (if you saw the new ones) were the same part # that I've had on there since 2006. The older headers had reached end of life so I got a new set, same kind. Those headers had fit the car and its low ride height very well for almost a decade!

But something happened with the car's suspension about 12-18 months ago and it's gradually gotten worse and worse. The ride height is messed up and it pulls to the right.

In the past 6 months here's what new: Headers, Firm Feel stage 3 box, Pitman & Idler arms, and LCA bushings.

We'll see what Hotchkis has to say.

Jim

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Oh - regarding the clocking on the pitman arm, here's what I think happened:

Firm Feel's own fast-ratio pitmans aren't keyed, so when they assembled the Stage 3 box I received, I don't think they looked too closely at how the output shaft was aligned. I had an older fast ratio pitman that was keyed, and when it was installed it was off by about 15 degrees, preventing the toe-in to be set properly. Rather than fight it I bought a new pitman from Firm Feel.

I still have my other fast ratio pitman arm, and it's in good shape. Maybe someone can get some use out of it.

Jim

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Originally Posted By JF_Moparts
Steve,

I'm not putting many miles on the car at all. Probably less than 6,000 miles a year.

The headers you saw (if you saw the new ones) were the same part # that I've had on there since 2006. The older headers had reached end of life so I got a new set, same kind. Those headers had fit the car and its low ride height very well for almost a decade!

But something happened with the car's suspension about 12-18 months ago and it's gradually gotten worse and worse. The ride height is messed up and it pulls to the right.

In the past 6 months here's what new: Headers, Firm Feel stage 3 box, Pitman & Idler arms, and LCA bushings.

We'll see what Hotchkis has to say.

Jim



I was not impressed thatthe headereds we severerly cracked and had cracked before and repaired. And it did not look like there was hitting contact at the headpipe to the ground.

TTI or Thorely don't do that without major impacts. I scrap hit my tti's a lot and have no issues.

And the head pipe flange was in a totally different location. That cost you a bunch of money/labor to redo the headpipes.

But those Headman shorties were the only thing out there in 2006 . And you had no idea they changed/no quality control on the headpipe flange.

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What part number headers are you using?

Re: Has anyone had Hotchkis work on their car? [Re: autoxcuda] #1805039
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
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Steve,

I'm not putting many miles on the car at all. Probably less than 6,000 miles a year.

The headers you saw (if you saw the new ones) were the same part # that I've had on there since 2006. The older headers had reached end of life so I got a new set, same kind. Those headers had fit the car and its low ride height very well for almost a decade!

But something happened with the car's suspension about 12-18 months ago and it's gradually gotten worse and worse. The ride height is messed up and it pulls to the right.

In the past 6 months here's what new: Headers, Firm Feel stage 3 box, Pitman & Idler arms, and LCA bushings.

We'll see what Hotchkis has to say.

Jim



I was not impressed thatthe headereds we severerly cracked and had cracked before and repaired. And it did not look like there was hitting contact at the headpipe to the ground.

TTI or Thorely don't do that without major impacts. I scrap hit my tti's a lot and have no issues.

And the head pipe flange was in a totally different location. That cost you a bunch of money/labor to redo the headpipes.

But those Headman shorties were the only thing out there in 2006 . And you had no idea they changed/no quality control on the headpipe flange.


What's the expected lifespan of headers? I've never expected much from a set. Close to a decade seemed about right. smile

I did not realize that they changed the location of the pipe like that! I thought the mismatch was due to other factors.

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FYI:

The part number of the headers is: HED-78506

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Update: Hotchkis has the car and will be installing the following:

Upper Control Arms
Steering Rods (apparently these are recommended with the new UCAs)
Adjustable Strut Rods
Shocks

I look forward to driving a nice handling car again!

I'll let everyone know how it goes.

Jim

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Originally Posted By JF_Moparts
Update: Hotchkis has the car and will be installing the following:

Upper Control Arms
Steering Rods (apparently these are recommended with the new UCAs)
Adjustable Strut Rods
Shocks

I look forward to driving a nice handling car again!

I'll let everyone know how it goes.

Jim


Did you see my Dart there?

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No, I didn't see the Dart, at least I don't recall. I was in and out of the garage area pretty quickly. Most of the time was talking to Rob in sales about the work to be done.

Jim

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Originally Posted By JF_Moparts
No, I didn't see the Dart, at least I don't recall.



Is that the Dart they advertised for sale on Craiglist? I thought $850 was pretty cheap even by SoCal standards.


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Originally Posted By feets
Originally Posted By JF_Moparts
No, I didn't see the Dart, at least I don't recall.



Is that the Dart they advertised for sale on Craiglist? I thought $850 was pretty cheap even by SoCal standards.


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If they're going to flip it, at least make some real bucks on it! $900! tsk

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So any progress pics ?

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Pics: I'm not close enough to stop by and take any. I wonder if I can ask them to take a few.

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