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Re: smogger 440 tuning
[Re: Hangtowner]
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04/24/15 07:31 PM
04/24/15 07:31 PM
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If it is lean surging at a steady higher cruise RPM I would increase the jetting a small amount(.002 to no more than .004) first I would also work on the distributor later to set the curve up so you have between 10 to 18 BTDC at idle and no more than 36 total revved up wth all the mechancal advance kicked in IHTHs
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Re: smogger 440 tuning
[Re: Hangtowner]
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04/24/15 08:01 PM
04/24/15 08:01 PM
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wouldn't hurt to note the in hg that the surge starts/ends. No surge when the TQ was on there correct? & no other changes ex the carb correct? I would richen up the carb mains a fair amount to stop the surging then dial in the dist sub systems spot on then final dial in the carb (with an LM1) if available
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Re: smogger 440 tuning
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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04/25/15 11:01 AM
04/25/15 11:01 AM
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What Daytona said, bump the initial up to 15 & you'll see a dramatic improvement. you'll (then) need to alter the slots to get the total in line but I'd try it as for a start to get things rolling (plus richen the carb as needed). bottom line you want no pinging. Was the only change preceding the lean surge the carb swap? I wouldn't think the street demon would be lean but I dont know that carb. More info needed. Holler back
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Re: smogger 440 tuning
[Re: RapidRobert]
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04/25/15 01:48 PM
04/25/15 01:48 PM
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Follow Cab's advice. Lean surge at cruise means main jetting is a little small. This could be because the engine has a weaker signal. My example, a carb that worked very well on a squarebore 4-hole intake became quite lean when mounted on a spreadbore intake with an open adapter. Open adapter cuts down the signal or pulse strength, pulls less fuel through the jets, results in lean condition.
After you get carb right start on the ignition. In my experience a low compression engine feels much livelier with a quick curve. But don't try to fix a carb problem with ignition.
R.
Last edited by dogdays; 04/25/15 01:48 PM.
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Re: smogger 440 tuning
[Re: dogdays]
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04/25/15 02:16 PM
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But don't try to fix a carb problem with ignition.
True, but spark advance affects fueling. Fueling does not affect advance.
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Re: smogger 440 tuning
[Re: Hangtowner]
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05/07/15 10:42 PM
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The small pressure gauge at the carb is hard to read, but averages 6 psi. yes but what is the psi at the freewway RPM/VAC when it is surging? And it was fine with the prior carb, & it was a freeway cruise (not exactly a WOT demand). I'd still say it's a carb issue (lean) or psi issue right at the carb (filter/orifice) that's restricting flow/making it lean if the carb internals needle/seat/floats etc are letting it flow enough which wouldn't normally be a problem unless some system is acting up inside the carb
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