Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: 340RICK]
#17982
11/06/05 06:02 PM
11/06/05 06:02 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio
dartman366
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,247
Mt. Vernon, Ohio
|
that's what I am currantly putting in my car, it's one out of a 1979 ford 3/4 ton, they also have heavier tube walls, mine measure 3/8 thick walls, so yes it is worth getting.
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: maxie]
#17992
11/06/05 10:54 PM
11/06/05 10:54 PM
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Quote:
the guy claims it to be a posi and I would think that it is since it is in a 4x4.
I have seen more 4X2's with posi/sure grip than 4X4's..
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: DirectSubjection]
#17998
11/07/05 12:48 AM
11/07/05 12:48 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 315 Northwest Indiana
Dougo3
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 315
Northwest Indiana
|
Quote:
Quote:
I have seen more 4X2's with posi/sure grip than 4X4's..
many people ordering 2X4s got grips to compensate and people ordering 4X4s thought they didn't need them.
Totally off topic but...DirectSubjection have you seen the Warriors video game?
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: Dougo3]
#17999
11/07/05 12:53 AM
11/07/05 12:53 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,424 Montgomery, AL
v8440
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,424
Montgomery, AL
|
A dana 70 is probably not something you'd want to use in a car. After the 60, they get much heavier. A 70 is closer to a dana 80 in weight and probably strength if I remember right. I have a dana 80 lying around in my shop, and believe me, that's a big heavy sonofabitch!
Exactly 610 posts on old board, first whacked post in the history of this one!
Funny moparts quote from Waginator:
"*If you want your package lost, like bermuda triangle lost, use DHL (formerly airborne)
*if you want it to get there but destroyed, use UPS."
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: I_bleed_MOPAR]
#18001
11/07/05 02:29 AM
11/07/05 02:29 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,773 Candler, NC
Roughrdr
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,773
Candler, NC
|
[quoteThe only drawback is the truck housings have no provisions for a snubber.
Tim
They can be machined easy for one though.
Chains of habit - too light to be felt until they are too heavy to be broken
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: Roughrdr]
#18002
11/07/05 08:08 PM
11/07/05 08:08 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 671 Kansas City
MOPARHOUND
super gas
|
super gas
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 671
Kansas City
|
Scored one over the weekend from a 1976 Dodge 1 ton motor home chassis. Has 60HD cast on the center section.
I have heard of guys mounting the pinion snubber upside down on the body of the car.
You weld on 8-3/4 ends, after cutting off the truck "full floating ends", with the width you need for your car presumably?
Custom axles then?
Can't get the brake drum loose on one end, the guy I bought it from wants to keep them. Thought about torching the studs holding the backing plate on, and then accessing the brake assembly through the 3"-4" hole the axle tube goes through. The guy beat the adjuster to death with a chisel, and took the brake cylinder loose and pushed it down into the drum.
Any ideas (pic)?
(Don't mean to hijack thread, hopefully others will learn something to doing this conversion).
My car club: hpacmopar.com 1971 Charger R/T, 496" RB Stroker, Auto, Driven Daily
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: Hotwheelsjr]
#18007
11/07/05 09:29 PM
11/07/05 09:29 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,667 Buford, GA
I_bleed_MOPAR
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,667
Buford, GA
|
Most standard 60s are in 3/4 and 1T trucks and vans and are 8 lugs w/ full floating axles. There are some 60s in late 70s (?) Ford trucks that are 5 lug and semi-floating axles. I'm almost positive the 60 HDs have bigger axle tubes than a standard 60. Maybe DrDiff or someone with a little more knowledge will chime in.
Tim
'71 Charger 383/727 '17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car )
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: I_bleed_MOPAR]
#18008
11/07/05 09:35 PM
11/07/05 09:35 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808
AZ_A12_BEE
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 18,575
Dreaming of the 808
|
there are also some Dana 61s out there too
69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry
69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd
69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto
37 Plymouth PU
Find your spot on earth and ride it.
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: AZ_A12_BEE]
#18009
11/07/05 09:46 PM
11/07/05 09:46 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 431 oregon
smokey
super street
|
super street
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 431
oregon
|
some D60s have a mount for a snuber i got one that was out of a 77 dodge truck it had the pad mount just the holes were not driled it had them cast there just not drilled
drag racers know where the finish line is....they don't have to drive around in circles looking for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: smokey]
#18010
11/07/05 10:55 PM
11/07/05 10:55 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 671 Kansas City
MOPARHOUND
super gas
|
super gas
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 671
Kansas City
|
Great pic Smokey. Makes you wonder if it came from the same molds some of the last car rears were made from.
Just eyeballing the Dana 60HD compared to the 69 and 71 car Dana 60s, the 60HD tubes appear to be thicker, but maybe by a 1/4" or so. Also, the tubes taper down a fraction in thickness a few inches before the backing plates on the 60HD, whereas the car Danas taper up in thickness???
The numbers on the 60HD are 6 7 5, meaning June 7, 1975.
The B.O.M. # is 603514 - 2, (5 is pitted, my best guess). Haven't been able to find this number on the internet, but did find a 603516 for a Dana B.O.M. The 60HD was cast in on the front side of the center housing.
The rear had dual wheels on it, but it is not a sure-grip unit.
The ratio tag has 11 on top, and 4? something on the bottom of it. I could only find one ratio with 11 for the pinion gear, so I presume the ratio is 3.73.
My car club: hpacmopar.com 1971 Charger R/T, 496" RB Stroker, Auto, Driven Daily
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: SANDYinNS Canada]
#18012
11/07/05 11:26 PM
11/07/05 11:26 PM
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
I have 2 of these that are from mid-late 60's trucks and i need a rear for the dart not to jack the post but how much are we talking to set it up for 5 on 4.5 and narrow it a little and use the 4.10 SG center it already has? Thanks guys...
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: Dakota_Don]
#18014
11/08/05 12:41 AM
11/08/05 12:41 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 671 Kansas City
MOPARHOUND
super gas
|
super gas
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 671
Kansas City
|
Dakota Don, that was my question on page one, custom axles?? Here is a link to a chart with some of the various dimensions and spline counts: http://www.autohobbydigest.com/dana.htmlGood quote from the article: "When installing truck differentials in cars, it is usually necessary to replace the differential gears which the axle shaft splines engage (part 55 in Figure 1). These are readily available for 1-1/2"x35 spline axle shafts as are the pinion gears and shafts (parts 53 and 54 in Figure 1)."
My car club: hpacmopar.com 1971 Charger R/T, 496" RB Stroker, Auto, Driven Daily
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: AZ_A12_BEE]
#18015
11/08/05 09:48 AM
11/08/05 09:48 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,175 Duloc
The Shadow
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,175
Duloc
|
Quote:
there are also some Dana 61s out there too
You can find them in ford vans....ask me how I know.
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: Dakota_Don]
#18016
11/08/05 09:55 AM
11/08/05 09:55 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,175 Duloc
The Shadow
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,175
Duloc
|
Quote:
if you cut the tube and install 8.75 housing ends, can you use the 8.75 axles in the D60?
It can be done but from what I understand its a waste of time. They old ends are usually damaged or way oversize and new ones are around $70
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: Dakota_Don]
#18018
11/08/05 10:35 AM
11/08/05 10:35 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,243 Canada
Kam*Kuda
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,243
Canada
|
I just had a dana 60 truck housing cut to size for my road runner. The mopar ends were welded on. You can use the ford ends if you with to use the svo rear disk kit (Like available from Dr Diff)
The Red circle is where the "60" is marked to ensure you get the correct housing The Green Circle shows the new Mopar ends welded on.
Last edited by Kamstra_Kuda; 11/08/05 10:54 AM.
1970 Barracuda Convertible 1968 Satellite Street Strip car 1654.5 Mustang 1955 Land Rover
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: maxie]
#18019
11/08/05 10:43 AM
11/08/05 10:43 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.
JohnRR
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974
U.S.S.A.
|
Quote:
the guy claims it to be a posi and I would think that it is since it is in a 4x4.
that means nothing , the sure grip was an option , not std .
as far as the comment about it being the same as a car rear , its not , no place for the pinion snubber to mount , its mine for a race car wit ha ladder bar or 4 link rear suspension though
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: Dakota_Don]
#18020
11/08/05 10:46 AM
11/08/05 10:46 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.
JohnRR
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974
U.S.S.A.
|
Quote:
if you cut the tube and install 8.75 housing ends, can you use the 8.75 axels in the D60?
the axle ends are basicly the same between the dana and the 8 3/4 , as they use the same axle bearings .
the difference between the 2 is an 8 3/4 has the same length axles side to side , a dana does not , if you are using a spool its doable as there is no thrust block and you have to use green bearings , but not so with a differential .
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: 67Mopar]
#18021
11/08/05 10:51 AM
11/08/05 10:51 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.
JohnRR
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974
U.S.S.A.
|
Quote:
I need to get the lay person scoop on this, I know of alot of dodge trucks in a junky up in Maine
old chevy and ford pickups used the dana 60 also .
if you're thinking of getting a load for resale don't waste you time unless they are almost free , since strange and moser both sell NEW housings with the snubber mounts ready to bolt in for a little more than an original that needs another 500 plus for a rebuild its made scrounging for a truck rear not as fruitful as it used to be .
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: JohnRR]
#18022
11/08/05 11:22 AM
11/08/05 11:22 AM
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
I disagree. I built my dana for 700 bucks and change. That's a LOT less than the new strange unit.
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
#18023
11/08/05 11:28 AM
11/08/05 11:28 AM
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
I just picked one up at the Garlits show for $150 - full floater, no axles or drums, with 4.10 gears for $150.00... I missed one sunday morning for less money (reduced from saturday) with 3.23 or so gears and a suregrip . I would have bought the second one even though I already had the first one. I'm planning on putting it in the Dakota
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
#18025
11/08/05 11:50 AM
11/08/05 11:50 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.
JohnRR
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,974
U.S.S.A.
|
Quote:
I disagree. I built my dana for 700 bucks and change. That's a LOT less than the new strange unit.
does it have the snubber provision so it can be used in a leaf sprung car ?
if you can do most of the work yourself then it can be alot cheaper , but if you have to farm it out just the labor to rebuild it is 250 plus in my area .
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: JohnRR]
#18026
11/08/05 11:52 AM
11/08/05 11:52 AM
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Quote:
Quote:
I disagree. I built my dana for 700 bucks and change. That's a LOT less than the new strange unit.
does it have the snubber provision so it can be used in a leaf sprung car ?
Come on, John ! You don't need to have a pinion snubber when there is stuff like Cal Tracs and CE Slide A Links that work much better
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: JohnRR]
#18030
11/08/05 01:30 PM
11/08/05 01:30 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,836 Detroit boy in Saugerties, NY
BrianShaughnessy
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,836
Detroit boy in Saugerties, NY
|
Quote:
Quote:
I disagree. I built my dana for 700 bucks and change. That's a LOT less than the new strange unit.
does it have the snubber provision so it can be used in a leaf sprung car ?
if you can do most of the work yourself then it can be alot cheaper , but if you have to farm it out just the labor to rebuild it is 250 plus in my area .
I'd have been happy if it only cost $700 to modify around my area. I had $500 in labor... plus new axles, ends, perches, trac loc, and caltracs. The donor came out of a '88 E250 ferd van.
Black Betty: '69 Charger RT: 440 6 pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana. Sinnamon: '69 Charger RT: 440, 727, 4.30 8.75. High School Sweetheart. El Grande: '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited.
|
|
|
Re: are the dana 60 truck rearends worth anything?
[Re: BrianShaughnessy]
#18031
11/08/05 02:35 PM
11/08/05 02:35 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio
dartman366
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,247
Mt. Vernon, Ohio
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
I disagree. I built my dana for 700 bucks and change. That's a LOT less than the new strange unit.
does it have the snubber provision so it can be used in a leaf sprung car ?
if you can do most of the work yourself then it can be alot cheaper , but if you have to farm it out just the labor to rebuild it is 250 plus in my area .
I'd have been happy if it only cost $700 to modify around my area. I had $500 in labor... plus new axles, ends, perches, trac loc, and caltracs. The donor came out of a '88 E250 ferd van.
I bought mine from a kid at work that was scrapping a truck for $50.00,, I plan on using the axel's from the 8 3/4 (35 spline)I purchased the housing end's from Jeg's ($60.00) I will have about $600.00 in R@P, spool, bearing and shim kit, plus $75.00 for a local guy to set it up and show me how to do it myself,, a fairly good chunk of change, but I can cross that off my "weakest link" list.
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
|
|
|
|
|