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#1783707 - 03/19/15 01:37 PM 1970 Roadrunner Project
cataclysm80 Offline
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Hello everybody, I haven't been on here in quite a while. It's good to see some familiar names.

I'm an E body guy, but I've had this 70 Roadrunner around here for years, and it's time to do something with it, either fix it or sell it. Leaning towards fixing it at the moment, but haven't decided yet.
FC7 In Violet (Plum Crazy) with white interior, 383, 4 speed with console, Air Grabber Hood with V21 blackout and a go wing spoiler. Woodgrain steering wheel. It's a stereo 8 track car, but the stereo's missing so I probably won't put that back anyway.
Not even close to drivable as is, and needs a full resto.

I haven't been focused on cars much in probably 4 or 5 years. Are parts easier to get now? What's changed? Any tips?

To start off with, Where's the best place to get AMD sheetmetal?
Need...
whole front floor
drivers side rear seat foot well
trunk floor
both trunk extensions
cowl (not rusty just major dent from previous fender bender)
filler panel (rear window)
both quarter panels

I saw that some of that stuff was out of stock on the website. Are they going to make more? When? (I'm not necessarily in a hurry)

Do the side scoops fit well onto the AMD quarter panels? Did everything else fit pretty good also?

I've seen some reproduction grills around recently. Not sure where they come from, Dales Cuda Shop maybe? How is the fit and quality of those? They look way better than some of the fiberglass junk I've seen.

Are there any parts which are particularly hard to find that I should check the car for to make sure that I have them before I start the project?

Any feedback (or just a Hello) is appreciated!

Tav

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#1783708 - 03/19/15 03:32 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
mopar346 Offline
Let me tell ya about fat chicks!

Registered: 07/05/07
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Howdy and welcome back, sounds like a nice Runner and I would love a shot at it if you decide to bail in a year or so. I just bought an RT and have to get over that. Depending on where you are in Florida I have an AMD connection that will cheat you right when you are ready, can usually even get delivery if you are patient.
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#1783709 - 03/19/15 04:06 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: mopar346]
67vertman Offline
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Registered: 11/06/06
Posts: 840
Loc: California USA
Quote:

"I have an AMD connection that will cheat you right"




What are friends for, if you can "Cheat" them.

Sounds like a nice car!

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#1783710 - 03/19/15 06:38 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: 67vertman]
fc7_plumcrazy Offline
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Hi,

sounds like a nice car.
Can you show us a pic of the fender tag, please?

Carsten

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#1783711 - 03/23/15 02:50 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: 67vertman]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/06
Posts: 4160
Loc: Florida
Quote:

Quote:

"I have an AMD connection that will cheat you right"




What are friends for, if you can "Cheat" them.






Well, I'm probably not very interested in being cheated, but thanks for the offer.

I thought about just driving up there to AMD and picking everything up in person. AMD said some of the parts I'm looking for were out of stock, but hopefully would be available around the end of April.

Tav

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#1783712 - 03/23/15 02:54 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: fc7_plumcrazy]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/06
Posts: 4160
Loc: Florida
Quote:

Hi,

sounds like a nice car.
Can you show us a pic of the fender tag, please?

Carsten





I don't have a pic of the tag handy, but here's a decode...

Fender Tag
V6Y V8W 26 END
J25 L31 M21 M85 R22 V21
FC7 A01 A36 C16 C55 G33
FC7 P6XW EW1 408 117317
E63 D21 RM23 N0G 217XXX

Fender tag is read left to right, bottom to top

E63 – 383 cubic inch orange 8 cylinder single four barrel carburetor 335 horse power
D21 – 4 speed manual transmission floor shift A833 with pistol grip shifter
R – Plymouth B body based on Belvedere/Satellite platform
M - Roadrunner
23 – 2 door hard top
N - 383 cubic inch 8 cylinder single four barrel carburetor (engine family B)
0 - 1970
G – St Louis Missouri assembly plant
217XXX – VIN sequence number
FC7 – body paint color In-Violet (same as Dodge Plum Crazy)
P6XW –premium white and black interior with white vinyl bucket seats
EW1 – white upper door frame paint
408 – Scheduled production date April 8, 1970
117317 – vehicle order number
FC7 – roof paint color In-Violet (same as Dodge Plum Crazy)
A01 – light package (glove box lamp, ash tray lamp, trunk lamp, etc.)
A36 – performance axle package 8.75 heavy duty rear axle with 3.55 ratio sure grip differential,
maximum cooling 7 bade torque drive fan and hemi suspension
C16 - center console with wood grain panel
C55 - bucket seats
G33 – left hand outside remote control chrome mirror
J25 - 3 speed windshield wipers
L31 – hood mounted turn signal lights
M21 – drip rail mouldings over windows (all cars had this)
M85 – bumper guards
R22 – 10 watt AM radio with stereo 8 track player
V21 – black performance hood stripe
V6Y – longitudinal tape sport stripe (roadrunner on fender with dust trail going into side scoop)
V8W – white transverse tape sport stripes (horizontal white stripe on tail panel above lights)
26 – 26 inch radiator
END – end of code list, built on plant’s only assembly line








The fender tag only includes some of the options that a car came with (engine transmission paint trim and anything that required drilling extra holes on the assembly line). The car has other options that are indicated on the broadcast sheet. Most cars no longer have their broadcast sheet as it was supposed to be thrown away on the assembly line. Sometimes you can find it inside a seat above a headliner or behind the glove box.

Options this car had that would have been on the broadcast sheet are:
All tinted windows (this was normal for cars with AC, but this is not an air conditioned car)
Rallye dash (all roadrunners, GTXs and Superbirds had this)
Wood grain steering wheel
Day/Night rearview mirror

Options the car did NOT have that have been added by previous owner:
N96 Air grabber hood (this came off of a 1970 440 GTX, we tracked down the correct air cleaner to mate with the 383 engine)
J81 rear spoiler (this is a 1970 only Go-Wing spoiler, different from the 1971 Gull-Wing)

The original engine and transmission have been replaced with a 400 cubic inch engine and big block 727 automatic transmission. I have a replacement freshly built 383 engine and the correct four speed manual transmission with 1970 only aluminum bellhousing. Still need to find a pistol grip shifter handle and center console.

There were 7,993 1970 Roadrunner hard tops with a 383 and a manual 4 speed transmission sold.

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#1783713 - 03/23/15 10:41 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: mopar346]
mopar346 Offline
Let me tell ya about fat chicks!

Registered: 07/05/07
Posts: 11671
Loc: Florida
Quote:

...that will cheat you right...




Sorry but that is a common slang saying around here. He runs up to AMD every week or so to pick up stuff so it has always been convenient for us to deal with him and he is always well less than retain and has been known to get scratch and dent stuff regularly that has minor dings.
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#1783714 - 03/25/15 01:32 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: mopar346]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Which part of Florida is he in? I'm north of Orlando.

Tav

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#1783715 - 03/26/15 08:02 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
mopar346 Offline
Let me tell ya about fat chicks!

Registered: 07/05/07
Posts: 11671
Loc: Florida
He's actually just inside of Georgia in Moultrie. I live just South of the line north of Tallahassee. I travel a bit and coudl probably work out delivery if your in no hurry. In fact I think I am gonna have the AAR at Olde Town next week end if your around.
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#1876633 - 07/23/15 02:18 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Did you have your AAR at the Mopars at Old Town show?
I think it was around April 4th.
I was there, which car was yours? (color?)

Tav

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#1876634 - 07/23/15 02:19 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Well, I've decided to keep the Roadrunner.
Have it mostly taken apart now.
I just ordered the AMD sheetmetal.
It should be here next week, and then I can start on the metal work.

Tav

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#1877362 - 07/24/15 03:03 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
Silver70 Offline
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Registered: 02/01/03
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Amd 70 rr quarters are pretty good. Nice heavy great fitting trunk floors also. Extensions are good. Never used there full front floors. Now the cowl I used, was not as wide front to back as factory. I had to widen it almost half an inch. Next time I would go with a used oem one. The deck filler from amd is even worse... the ones you can get for 60ish or so elsewhere fit a lot better.
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#1879375 - 07/27/15 04:34 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Thanks a BUNCH for those tips! I'll be sure to look over those areas real good before install.

I was wondering how well the side scoops would fit on the AMD quarters.

If anyone else has experiences with these panels, I'd love to hear it. smile

Tav

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#1879377 - 07/27/15 04:36 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Does anyone recall where the body numbers are found on this car? I'd like to make sure not to disturb them if possible. I seem to recall something about the driver side trunk lip?

Tav

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#1880876 - 07/29/15 02:01 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
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Originally Posted By cataclysm80
Does anyone recall where the body numbers are found on this car? I'd like to make sure not to disturb them if possible. I seem to recall something about the driver side trunk lip?

Tav


DS trumk lip and radiator support.
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#1985091 - 01/06/16 04:54 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: 70gtx440dana]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Originally Posted By 70gtx440dana
Originally Posted By cataclysm80
Does anyone recall where the body numbers are found on this car? I'd like to make sure not to disturb them if possible. I seem to recall something about the driver side trunk lip?

Tav


DS trumk lip and radiator support.



Found the numbers, thanks!

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#1985119 - 01/06/16 05:30 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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It's about time I put some pictures in this thread.

Let's see if I can remember how...

There used to be an image loader down here somewhere.
I guess that's been lost in the intervening years.
I hope my old threads still have their pics!
Looks like we have to link to externally hosted images now.
Let's try this...



Edited by cataclysm80 (01/06/16 05:51 PM)

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#1985143 - 01/06/16 05:55 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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OK, that took a few tries, but seems to be working.
I dislike Photobucket and all it's junk advertising.
I miss the old photo uploader we had here. It had image size restrictions, but it was easy to use.


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#1985146 - 01/06/16 05:58 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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There's already a new rocker panel, frame rail, & crossmember in this picture.



Edited by cataclysm80 (01/06/16 06:00 PM)

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#1985149 - 01/06/16 06:03 PM Re: 1970 Roadrunner Project [Re: cataclysm80]
cataclysm80 Offline
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Edited by cataclysm80 (01/06/16 06:09 PM)

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