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Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How rare?? [Re: MrNormTA] #176603
12/31/08 08:35 AM
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I don't now how rare this is, but I now how good this look!!!

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: Alaskan_TA] #176604
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I thought steering column color was dependent upon what dash the car had? Black for standard cluster, colored for rallye cluster.




Red interior cars are the exception. Red interior cars that I have broadcast sheet copies for show red colums in some std. cluster E-Bodies built early in the 1970 model year.




As Barry mentioned early build red interiors seem to be the exception. However I am not sure if it's actually the rallye dash or the woodgrain trim that causes the column to be color keyed to the interior. I'm thinking it might be the later.

J64 (woodgrain dash applique) was a standalone option on the base Challenger. I had only ever seen this option on black interior cars but I did get an email from someone who had a different color interior. I can't remember the interior color or the column color right now but if I find the info I'll post it.

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: KISSAlien] #176605
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The scheduled build on mine is 903 and as you can see from the pics it has the red column with the standard dash and no wood applique. On line 3 of the build codes on the buildsheet,right in the steering column it clearly states E5. The only thing I dont get on my car (and a few others) is why have a complete red interior but black seat belts? Anybody have a clue as to why that is? Also maybe Barry can answer this, on line 5 at the end in the boxes 1 2 3 there is a 14 in box 2 and 60 in box 3. What might those codes be? Thanks for any info and everyone have Safe & Happy New Year!! Greg


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Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: G-Money1320] #176606
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Those reference the broadcast sheet print time.

14 60 in those locations;

14 - 14th print hour that day

60 - 60th minute that hour. (they used 100 minute hours for these)

Sadly, they did not record the actual day the sheet was printed.

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: Alaskan_TA] #176607
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When I was chatting with Mike Ross of B,E, & A body resto shop, he said the early cars could have had black seat belts and black carpeting in red cars for some reason. Our car, as you can see in the pics, has a black carpet. I'd love to figure out if it had a black carpet originally. Since our broadcast sheet is on a 1969 format, and the codes are 1970 style coding, it is hard for me to match them up and figure them out.

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: ] #176608
12/31/08 11:02 PM
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I'd love to figure out if it had a black carpet originally. Since our broadcast sheet is on a 1969 format, and the codes are 1970 style coding, it is hard for me to match them up and figure them out.




Go to this link http://www.moparts.org/Tech/ find the 70 build sheet, print it out & put your codes in the boxes as they are printed on the 69 form...

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #176609
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Ok, I just tried to do it and here is a scan of the broadcast sheet. Most of the lines can not be just transferred over such as lines 4 and on. Here is a scan of the broadcast sheet. See what everyone here thinks. Hopefully someone can decode it all for me.

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Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: ] #176610
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All 12 of the 8_02 built promo red/red 440-6 R/T verts had red interiors w/ black columns. It seems to be an early production characteristic.

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Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: Mike Mancini] #176611
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Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: Mike Mancini] #176612
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I thought the biggest engine in a Challenger convert that you could have gotten was a 383?

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: ] #176613
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engine question discussed here: Challenger conv. ENGINES??

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: 6bblgt] #176614
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Ok, so I was right then.

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: ] #176615
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no the 440, 440-6 and hemi was avail in RT's


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Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: ] #176616
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Ok, so I was right then.




The deal is No R/T in 71...So nothing bigger then 383 Magnum...

1970 there was a Challenger R/T Vert so you could get 440, 440-6 & 426 Hemi....

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #176617
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Correct! I was referring to 1970's since that is the post title.


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Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: Mike Mancini] #176618
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Correct! I was referring to 1970's since that is the post title.




I knew that, just thought Brian could use an E body education...

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #176619
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Its late and I am busy at work at the good ol' police dept. I indavertently confused the 70 and 71 model years with the maximum engine size in the converts.

Re: restoring 70 chally vert with RED interior...How ra [Re: KISSAlien] #176620
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I thought steering column color was dependent upon what dash the car had? Black for standard cluster, colored for rallye cluster.




Red interior cars are the exception. Red interior cars that I have broadcast sheet copies for show red colums in some std. cluster E-Bodies built early in the 1970 model year.




As Barry mentioned early build red interiors seem to be the exception. However I am not sure if it's actually the rallye dash or the woodgrain trim that causes the column to be color keyed to the interior. I'm thinking it might be the later.

J64 (woodgrain dash applique) was a standalone option on the base Challenger. I had only ever seen this option on black interior cars but I did get an email from someone who had a different color interior. I can't remember the interior color or the column color right now but if I find the info I'll post it.




I did find the sheet and the car had a burnt orange interior, standard dash, J64 and a black column so the J64 did not make the column color-keyed.

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