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I love Stage V's but they are not ready to bolt on at all unless you want to buy them from a very expensive shop that has done the completion. Edelbrock heads are ready to bolt on, cheap and have good numbers.

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Edelbrock heads are ready to bolt on, cheap and have good numbers.

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that's a loaded question, be prepared for a load of answers!

this is where the money is on a hemi, the heads and the valve train.

it depends what kind of HP you are looking for. you can put an ootb set of mopar or now edelbrock heads on, and they will make for a decent package, but nowhere near what a hemi can do.

a ported set of stage V heads are the way to go imho.

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I thought that the MP heads were Edelbrocks. Are there different Edelbrocks now?

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that's a loaded question, be prepared for a load of answers!

this is where the money is on a hemi, the heads and the valve train.

it depends what kind of HP you are looking for. you can put an ootb set of mopar or now edelbrock heads on, and they will make for a decent package, but nowhere near what a hemi can do.

a ported set of stage V heads are the way to go imho.

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I would like to make about 700-750HP or a little more.

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Unported Stage V heads can support this power level easily on a 572.
I have unported Stage Vs on a 528 making 704HP.

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cool, nice to know!

just think what it would be doing if they were ported!

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I thought that the MP heads were Edelbrocks. Are there different Edelbrocks now?

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Yes, the MP heads are made by Edelbrock. Edelbrock now makes a new Victor Jr hemi head that is different then the MP head and that came out in th emiddle of last year. I believe he was referring to the two different Edelbrock heads.
I just bought a set of these last week. They were at pretty decent price with 10% discount from Summit. $2350 for a set of complete hemi heads that flow like these are supposed to, is not too bad IMO.

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/chrysler/victor-jr-bb.shtml

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I second Stage V, call Tim at FHO, you will be happy, he's great to work with.

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I thought that the MP heads were Edelbrocks. Are there different Edelbrocks now?

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Yes, the MP heads are made by Edelbrock. Edelbrock now makes a new Victor Jr hemi head that is different then the MP head and that came out in th emiddle of last year. I believe he was referring to the two different Edelbrock heads.
I just bought a set of these last week. They were at pretty decent price with 10% discount from Summit. $2350 for a set of complete hemi heads that flow like these are supposed to, is not too bad IMO.

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/chrysler/victor-jr-bb.shtml

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This sounds great. Is Summit still offering that 10% discount?

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The 10% off was from a code that they hand out at various events. A kind member posted having some extra codes in the race section and I PM'd him. People post having extra codes from time to time. I was waiting to order these heads until someone posted having a code. You can add a post requesting one to see if anyone has any extras that are not expired. We have a lot of great members willing to help others out.

While the Stage V heads are no doubt excellent, I can't imagine you will find a complete set of Stage Vs for around $2300 and it's not like the Edlebrock's are some low quality Chinese knockoffs.

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.

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Finding used/cheap cranks, rods, & pistons isn't hard. It's the topend parts that are pricy for a hemi...even used stuff. Heads, rocker assemblies, and blocks are the 3 main pieces that you will pay for.

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The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.

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not quite true. a 440 crank will work, but it's a 6 bolt flange for the flywheel, whereas a hemi is 8.

if you choose to use a 440 crank, you just need to keep that in mind when buying a flywheel or flex plate.

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The 6 bolt, 8 bolt doesn't really matter, just because the hemi originally had a 8 bolt doesn't make it a requirement, unless you are trying to use an 8 bolt only 172 tooth flywheel.

The big difference between a wedge crank and a Hemi crank is the size of the counterweights, Hemi pistons are heavier than Wedge pistons so if you try to use a 440 crank with a Hemi rotating assembly you will more than likely have to add $$$ mallory to get it to balance.

I get a kick out of these guys that think they can build a 572 Hemi for 440 wedge money ...

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not quite true. a 440 crank will work, but it's a 6 bolt flange for the flywheel, whereas a hemi is 8.

if you choose to use a 440 crank, you just need to keep that in mind when buying a flywheel or flex plate.

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.

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I get a kick out of these guys that think they can build a 572 Hemi for 440 wedge money ...

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I have had 2 cranks balanced with mallory metal for my 383 LB engines. It wasn't very cheap 30 years ago. What does it cost now?

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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I knew somebody was going to post this EXACT thing. And since you are THAT guy then all I have to say is that a person doesn't have to buy all the top dollar parts. Its my choice to buy the Edelbrocks instead of the Stage Vs so that will save some money and I believe they will be just fine for what I want.

PS and I already have priced rocker assemblies....and blocks too so you can forget mentioning that.

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Just trying to help.
I forgot to mention, don't buy, a certain brand as they have terrible service and there parts break.

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If you think you can't afford the Stage V heads, wait till you price the rocker arm assembly. There is nothing not expensive for a Hemi, even used parts. Now is the time to think over what you want to do, next thing you'll be thinking is : WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!!!

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That's true for the most part, but if you're patient you can find some deals for hemi parts occasionally. I bought some new K1 billet hemi rods for $130 and some new MP forged 528 pistons for $200 last year. The cranks are the same as a 440 crank and those aren't too bad. I paid $350 for a new Eagle 4340 4.15" crank a couple of years ago off ebay. Now finding a block for a reasonable price, that's tricky.

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Finding used/cheap cranks, rods, & pistons isn't hard. It's the topend parts that are pricy for a hemi...even used stuff. Heads, rocker assemblies, and blocks are the 3 main pieces that you will pay for.

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All of the parts and prices I listed were for new parts, not used. I agree there is no cheap way out for the rocker setup or block. I don't think the heads are too bad for the flow #s. I don't know of too many wedge heads that flow up to 400 CFM for $2300.

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Blowndart...All I was implying is that other than the block, the bottom end of a hemi really costs no more than a wedge.

The heads ARE priced very reasonably to a wedge when you compare flow numbers.

As far as blocks....right now I think your only options for a new one are Keith Black or Indy, both aluminum.
I'm not sure if you can actually get one from HP Performance right now?
Older Mega Blocks and World blocks pop up from time to time but they are expensive since no one is making them anymore.

I never heard of the Stage V heads dropping seats? Not arguing, I just don't recall ever hearing that. I know some of the MP heads had that issue. W/ that said, I have MP heads on my 572 hemi...no problems and I've been running them since 2006. The MP heads are basically just aluminum versions of the factory iron heads. CNC ported by MCH they flow 430 cfm.

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Whats the though on the stock head, what will it flow, stock and mildly ported. Can it make 650-700 hp with some cubes, say over 500?

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IIIRC there was a flow test published years ago, in some Chrysler magazine, where someone and it may have been Dvorak, flow tested a bunch of heads, then put a set of stock Hemi heads on the flowbench just for fun. I seem to remember the stock Hemi head flowing around 305cfm on the intake port, which should be good for 600 - 630 hp.
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My engine guy has a set of edelbrocks this week he was working on. Valve guide were too tight. I asked him what he thought of them and said you shouldn't have to do this to new heads

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that's a loaded question, be prepared for a load of answers!

this is where the money is on a hemi, the heads and the valve train.

it depends what kind of HP you are looking for. you can put an ootb set of mopar or now edelbrock heads on, and they will make for a decent package, but nowhere near what a hemi can do.

a ported set of stage V heads are the way to go imho.

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I have built and dyno tested more than one pump gas 426 Street Hemi motor, that said, the better heads make more power per C.I. on the same fuel The last two street hemi motors I built and dyno tested for the same customer in SO CA made 630 HP, 471 C.I. 10.25 to 1 comp. ratio,4.310 bore with a 3.91 stroke,(all new Mopar parts OOTB, he was a lawyer and had a little money ) with the new cast iron OOTB Mopar replacement heads checked and prepped for street use, stock OEM inline 2x4 intake manifold with a set of OEM Carter 1966 street hemi carbs,I did a little tuning on it, not a bunch His other motor was a 526 C.I. with all new Mopar parts, 4.380 bore x 4.250 stroke, used Mopar D4 aluminum heads and a used OEM alumunim SS cross ram intake and new Holley Replacement carbs 11.3 to 1 comp. ratio for 91 octane CA pump gas. Stock rocker arm sets he had on both motors, not blue printed or having the rocker ratio corrected It made 680 HP They, both motors, had custom ground solid lifters, not rollers, street cams in them. I was really disappointed with that motor He wasn't Your deal with that C.I. and a decent set of new Stage V heads and rockers should to make north of 750 HP with two carbs really easy IHTHs Let us know what you decide

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that's a loaded question, be prepared for a load of answers!

this is where the money is on a hemi, the heads and the valve train.

it depends what kind of HP you are looking for. you can put an ootb set of mopar or now edelbrock heads on, and they will make for a decent package, but nowhere near what a hemi can do.

a ported set of stage V heads are the way to go imho.

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I would like to make about 700-750HP or a little more.

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I have built and dyno tested more than one pump gas 426 Street Hemi motor, that said, the better heads make more power per C.I. on the same fuel The last two street hemi motors I built and dyno tested for the same customer in SO CA made 630 HP, 471 C.I. 10.25 to 1 comp. ratio,4.310 bore with a 3.91 stroke,(all new Mopar parts OOTB, he was a lawyer and had a little money ) with the new cast iron OOTB Mopar replacement heads checked and prepped for street use, stock OEM inline 2x4 intake manifold with a set of OEM Carter 1966 street hemi carbs,I did a little tuning on it, not a bunch His other motor was a 526 C.I. with all new Mopar parts, 4.380 bore x 4.250 stroke, used Mopar D4 aluminum heads and a used OEM alumunim SS cross ram intake and new Holley Replacement carbs 11.3 to 1 comp. ratio for 91 octane CA pump gas. Stock rocker arm sets he had on both motors, not blue printed or having the rocker ratio corrected It made 680 HP They, both motors, had custom ground solid lifters, not rollers, street cams in them. I was really disappointed with that motor He wasn't Your deal with that C.I. and a decent set of new Stage V heads and rockers should to make north of 750 HP with two carbs really easy IHTHs Let us know what you decide

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