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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MattW] #1752487
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I went with the S60 for my new build for the folowing reasons, I had one in my roadrunner 9 second car 3300# T-break bigblock launches for years on end and never a problem. Second was price.




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Also heard that the Dana WITH an Aluminum cover will NOT fit due to STOCK gas tank interference. A Body.



If you're still running a stock tank A body you probably don't need the support cover especially with the new S60 because the caps are much beefier than the stock Dana caps
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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: 1967dartgt] #1752488
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I run a 1.19 60' on a 8 3/4... LOTS of 1.19s so what
does that say... and dont say lucky.. it has its place
as do all the others





It says your cars are fly weights. Put your rear in a heavy car going 1.20s and see how long it lasts. A 8 3/4 would probably be fine in your Rampage too.




So why does mine live 3195 lbs. Bretts car 2750 lbs 8.90s 1.24 60 fts. Tory's car 2870 lbs 8.90s and 1.25 60 ft. All have 8 3/4 rears.




You tell me .

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: Monte_Smith] #1752489
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Wow 4 pages in and Monte thinks he knows more about rear axles than Cass does


Point out where I said THAT. All I said was I could find the parts cheaper than he quoted. What, you think Strange is the only people who make this crap. But as far as the prices of stuff I quoted........Google is your friend, look it up, see for yourself. I KNOW what the stuff can be built for, because I used to do it everyday and still sell a lot of parts.

As far as knowing about rear ends. I used to run a chassis shop. We built stockers to Pro-Mods. So I have built a rear or two. Be it Dana, Ford, Olds, 12 bolt.............whatever. Do I know more than Cass about various rears........probably not, as that is his business.

Cass doesn't like the Ford Locker............that's fine. It's his opinion and he is entitled to it. Personally, I have never broken one, never broke a Track Loc in a Dana either.

For clarification, NEVER had a problem with a DANA, other than bending tubes...........and ALL this bullsh%t goes back to what I said 3 or 4 pages ago. Dana is a fine rear, just not the best for every application on the planet

Monte



Monte the OP stated he wanted to "upgrade" his current setup and to me that doesn't mean find the cheapest components he can find on the net.Cass puts his reputation on the line when he recommends what components are needed to fulfill the OP's requirements.If he thinks I need to use a certain item I trust his opinion over yours because he is an expert in the field.At the same time I wouldn't go ask Cass how to setup an 8 second nitrous injected door slammer I would contact an expert in the field like you.
If someone wanted to "upgrade" their current nitrous system would you advise them to Google the cheapest solenoids they could find on the net?Or maybe find the cheapest fuel pump on the internet? Of course you wouldn't Do you put the cheap offshore junk in the racecars you build? From your reputation I don't think so

Gus


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493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
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Dana 60
Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1752490
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Still waiting for braced Dana pic


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: moparniac] #1752491
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I've seen a lot of Dana rearends with braces. Typically in the off-road environment. They run a bar across the cover and tie it all together. Don't usually see it on drag cars though.

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: moparniac] #1752492
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Still waiting for braced Dana pic



I have this cover on my DANA and wondered if this was a worthwhile addition
Gus

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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: moparniac] #1752493
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Still waiting for braced Dana pic



Looks like you have to take ONE OF THESE and add THIS to it.

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: BradH] #1752494
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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1752495
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Still waiting for braced Dana pic



I have this cover on my DANA and wondered if this was a worthwhile addition
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Wonder if there is shock interference with that setup.


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: moparniac] #1752496
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Yeah I was wondering the same thing because my new shocks are pretty fat. That is one of those deals as was posted earlier you would want solid clevis type rodends for it to be efective at all. And you would have to mock it up on the car race ready for shock clearance.
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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1752497
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I went with the S60 for my new build for the folowing reasons, I had one in my roadrunner 9 second car 3300# T-break bigblock launches for years on end and never a problem. Second was price.




Nice

Also heard that the Dana WITH an Aluminum cover will NOT fit due to STOCK gas tank interference. A Body.



If you're still running a stock tank A body you probably don't need the support cover especially with the new S60 because the caps are much beefier than the stock Dana caps
Gus




I thought that the Dana S60 had thinner caps on it do to the adjusters?

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MattW] #1752498
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I bought a Dana 60 from one of the old time Mopar backed Comp Eliminator racers that had a brace mounted on the pinion snubber bolt holes with welded slots for the 1.0 inch tubing (I think it was, I never measured it) hiem joints bolted into the mount, the tubing was welded onto the axle ends with Hiem joints on the other end of the tube ends. I wish I had taken pictures of that rear end now I beleive I was told that it had 1/8 inch toe in on the front side measured 16 inches out from the center of the axles Now if we could only still buy the Olds and Pontiac rear end parts we wouldn't be having this discussion, would we


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MattW] #1752499
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I have a 66 Plymouth Dana under my Savoy and the caps look really thin to me.I put ARP studs on them and have a support cover because my car is a stick and it's heavy at 3570#
From some of the close-up pics of the new S-60 the caps look twice as thick as the caps in my stocker Dana.
Gus


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1752500
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I built the Dana in my dart myself Moser 35 spline stuff girdle cover and 5/8 studs, have around 800 bucks in it including the truck housing, that I bought with about 5 others, so I already had the housing, if I was starting from scratch I would build a aftermarket 9, even if its several hundred more mainly for the gear options and less weight even if only 10 lbs difference. A 9 will replace the Dana after the car is sorted out and going again. Good luck with it.

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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: Cab_Burge] #1752501
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The braces shown havent addressed the problem point..
thats AFTER the spring to the end.. the spring acts
as a brace point

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: BradH] #1752502
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i run a dana for a number of reasons. the dana may weigh slightly more, but has less rotating drag due to the fact that the pinion centerline is closer to the ring gear centerline (vertically). granted there is tons of aftermarket support for the 9", but i just didn't want a ford based rear in my car. that and i've broken a 9". and an 8 3/4. and an 8 1/4. i also agonized over which posi to use. i have a full spool. it was the right decision for me.


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Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1752503
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The braces shown havent addressed the problem point..
thats AFTER the spring to the end.. the spring acts
as a brace point




the closer together the brackets/ spring mounts are to each other, the greater the leverage the tires have to bend the housing.


for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: maximum entropy] #1752504
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The braces shown havent addressed the problem point..
thats AFTER the spring to the end.. the spring acts
as a brace point




the closer together the brackets/ spring mounts are to each other, the greater the leverage the tires have to bend the housing.




I know all about that

Re: Street/strip diff upgrade: D60 vs 9" pros & cons [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1752505
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Still waiting for braced Dana pic



I have this cover on my DANA and wondered if this was a worthwhile addition
Gus




You put a little preload on those bars? And which way, push or pull?


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The braces shown havent addressed the problem point..
thats AFTER the spring to the end.. the spring acts
as a brace point




the closer together the brackets/ spring mounts are to each other, the greater the leverage the tires have to bend the housing.




I know all about that




i know you do...


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