2 piece driveshaft confusion.FIXED. Now, headlights
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On my 'new' '93 Dakota, its got a low speed vibration I'm trying to trace down. (Its not the tires for sure). I went ahead and pulled the driveshaft assembly to check the u-joints and grease them. According to info I pulled up on various websites, this assembly is NOT in phase because the yoke ears are not in the same plane. Looks factory to me, what say you?
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Re: 2 piece driveshaft confusion.......
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In that aspect, yes it is in phase, BUT quite a few websites I visited took the reading off the yolks. Based on pics like the one I attached, the drive shafts are NOT in phase.
Your's is phased just like that one is. I don't get what you are looking at to be so confused?
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Re: 2 piece driveshaft confusion.......
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Being "in phase" and "in plane" are two different things.
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Re: 2 piece driveshaft confusion.......
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In that aspect, yes it is in phase, BUT quite a few websites I visited took the reading off the yolks. Based on pics like the one I attached, the drive shafts are NOT in phase.
Your's is phased just like that one is. I don't get what you are looking at to be so confused?
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Funny. When you had the shaft out could you move the all the joints smoothly esp the front one?
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Funny. When you had the shaft out could you move the all the joints smoothly esp the front one? Yes. That was part of the reason I did pull the whole assembly rather than grease it in place, I wanted to feel how smoothly the joints moved. All moved smoothly, none felt 'tight', none felt rough. They were all the same style aftermarket joint, so, I assume they were all changed at once, and not individually as they wore out. Before I pulled the joint free from the rear, I marked it to be sure to put it back the same way too.
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im fairly sure that the splines just behind the center bearing will only let the shafts fit together one way,how is the center bearing,smooth,ruff?
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Center bearing spins smoothly. Rubber around bearing is tight, NOT dry rotted, cracked, etc.
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if you can tell where the weight is missing from you can put a screw type hose clamp o the shaft with the screw head where the weight was,it will take some adjustment but it can be done,ive seen pictures of shafts with two clamps on them,or just take it to a drive-line shop for a perfect balance
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"I'm wondering why you would say this. How long can the Dakota be?" You question a guy that can't even interpret a drawing correctly? It just seems long to me being a Club Cab. "You have weights on the shaft looking at the pictures. You wont notice a shaft balance at the low speeds so I highly doubt it is in the balance." It shakes at all speeds really, but its no where near as pronounced as it is at 35MPH. If not the drive shaft, then what? Tires are balanced. Trans and motor mounts are good. Carrier bearing is good. I would think if something were wrong with the rear end it would show up as noise and not a vibration. Either way, I took the drive shaft to a shop to have the balance checked.
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SUCCESS!! Its S-M-O-O-T-H now. The back shaft was ever so slightly bent. The shop straightened it, rebalanced it, and went ahead and put a new carrier bearing in (preventive maintenance while it was down). Cost me just over $260.00. More than what I wanted to spend, BUT, it cured the problem. Thanks for the replies everyone! Now onto the next problem......headlights.
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To be honest I had to look long and hard at those pictures too. Well at least it's done. $260.oo isn't bad. Headlights... Oh Oh hope it's nothing serious. I noticed the headlights on our minivan started dimming slightly on their own. It also stumbled a little at a stop light. I was thinking it was just salt corrosion on the wiring causing excessive resistance. I cleaned everything I could see. Battery is fully-charged so it isn't a charging issue. I will watch your headlight post, and see what's up. That's assuming you post it here.
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Re: 2 piece driveshaft confusion.FIXED. Now, headlights
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I will watch your headlight post, and see what's up. That's assuming you post it here. Hmmm....not quite ready to make another post yet, but, here's an update..... one of the previous owners was an idiot. The amber parking lights were throwing more light than my headlights. Last night, I went out to see if I could somehow make the headlights 'work' until I spring for new lenses. With the headlights on, I opened the hood, and the engine compartment was BRIGHT, as in all lit up..... At first I thought I was having a spiritual moment or something, but, then got to looking and realized the light was coming from the headlights. The last idiot that replaced the bulb put the lock ring on backwards, so, rather than unplug the light and flip the ring, they tried to tape the bulb in place. Tried. The bulb was still lined up with the hole in the housing but, the bulb was completely outside the housing! BOTH sides were like that. While the light pattern and general output still sucks, I can actually see the road now that I put the bulbs back IN the housing. As I mentioned, eventually I'll buy new lenses. Over on the www.dakota-durango.com website, a couple of guys recommended TYC brand for replacements.
John
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Re: 2 piece driveshaft confusion.FIXED. Now, headlights
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I've got a Meguires kit I had bought for my Wife's Pontiac. Made a HUGE difference with that car. With the Dakota....mmmmmm...not so much. The passenger side is yellowed/hazed to the point the plastic looks crazed. The drivers side housing is a replacement of unknown origin from when a previous owner smacked the left front corner. The right lens throws out a weird, stick figure kinda pattern.... The drivers side has no pattern at all. When I shine the lights onto a wall, the drivers side appears as nothing more than a blob of light.
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