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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1743085
02/02/15 08:46 PM
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I like these kind of topics and not boring at all.

Only thing I'm (still) wondering about is why you've been running with the bare front on the car?
Whenever I see pics of the car it always seems to me like you've been in a frontal crash a day before and decided run it unrepaired anyway.
I does however make the car more easily recognizable though..




Duh... Weight savings...

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: MuuMuu101] #1743086
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Easy access to finishing up laying out, attaching, and hooking up unfinished pieces of the system, like coolers and wiring.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1743087
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I like these kind of topics and not boring at all.

Only thing I'm (still) wondering about is why you've been running with the bare front on the car?
Whenever I see pics of the car it always seems to me like you've been in a frontal crash a day before and decided run it unrepaired anyway.
I does however make the car more easily recognizable though..




Its a real car now, and trust me, you'll recognize it when you see it




Great question, George of Reiss Racing was going to try and paint it as soon as he had a gap of time in the paint booth. I was trying to keep it as paint-shop ready as possible. You will see in next few posts the results. These updates are from late 2014. For the next CAM event I spent the $200 I should have spent when I bought it rebuilding the junkyard 8.8 rear. New clutches and bigger 31 spline axles from Summit. Much better having the limited slip actually delivering power to BOTH rear wheels. Also trying different used tires this event, moved up to 285/35/18 Hankook R-S3 both front and rear, still on 18x10 wheels.

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743088
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The car handled beautifully, oversteer better still with the bigger Hankooks and the rear shocks full firm. Front turn in on these 285 tires with the Hotchkis TVS was simply the best of any car I've ever driven. You turn the wheel, the car just bites. That being said, I beat everyone who had been beating me, but ran into a Buzzsaw, Reiss Racing had built a custom 3 link rear for Tonys Gen2 Camaro, which he debuted this race, along with his own set of fresher brand new Hankook R-S3 version 2s. Mix that and his 400+ HP, I finished second out of thirteen

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743089
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The front wheel wells are absolutely maxed out with the 285/35/18 on the 18x10 wheel so for the next event I decided to max out the rear. Sourced some $110 19x10.5 rear wheels on Ebay so I could try the biggest 19" Hankook they make, the 305/30/19. I also decided to go back to soft on the rear shocks, but stiffen up the rear sway bar. I skipped the middle setting on the Hotchkis bar and went straight to full stiff. George and Tony both had motor issues so those Camaros were out, and George co-drove the Valiant. This pic shows how full the wheel wells are now...

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743090
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Success! The oversteer is all but gone, car handles unbelievably. This was a fairly short, tight course, so we were all fairly close together. Finally, after battling all year, the Valiant took the win!

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743091
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I love the progress of this thread - congrats on the final win!!!

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743092
02/03/15 01:36 AM
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Found a 17 Gallon cell on Amazon for $225...




what did you have to fab to mount the tank?

also for the grille are you running the aluminum valiant grill, or the duster style grille?

sweet car, love the steam-rollers

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: 340duster340] #1743093
02/03/15 09:04 PM
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Found a 17 Gallon cell on Amazon for $225...




what did you have to fab to mount the tank?

also for the grille are you running the aluminum valiant grill, or the duster style grille?

sweet car, love the steam-rollers




I'll try and get some underside pics of the straps we fabbed up, but they are basic u-shaped out of some 3/16 steel, with mounting tabs so they bolt up from under the floor. Stock Aluminum Valiant grill...

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743094
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Next race was the last of the 2014 season, and the first with no changes to the car, so I really just worked on my driving, trying to push it harder, particularly in the slalom portion. It was a long, fast course so my lower HP would hurt a little, but with the 285/305 Hankooks, I was going to keep the speed up everywhere I could...


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743095
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The Valiant was crazy fast in the slalom, I honestly couldn't get my brain to let me push the car as fast as it could change direction, and now the rear just follows the front, no drama. Valiant blew the the Mustangs, Camaros, Chevelles, etc away this day...

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743096
02/04/15 12:58 AM
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I'm really liking this build

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Skeptic] #1743097
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I'm really liking this build




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I love the progress of this thread - congrats on the final win!!!





Thanks everyone, the car went into paint right after that event, next we start 2015 with plum...

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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743098
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Just awesome!


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Brian] #1743099
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Just awesome!




Thanks! So I literally got the car out of the paint booth Friday night with the first race of 2015 on Sunday. A mad thrash all day Saturday to put the full interior in, bumpers, grills, etc on. I haven't had time yet to take better pics, but I will, for now here is how it looked on Raceday. The front fiberglass bumper I ordered hadn't come in so the one in pics is just temporary!




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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743100
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The Valiant again performed and handled better than expected, got new Version 2 Hankook R-S3 200 treadwear tires in the same 285/35/18 Front and 305/30/19 Rear sizes, hopefully to last all season. The Valiant not only beat the 13 other cars in the CAM-T class, but all the smaller, lighter CAM-S cars as well...


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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743101
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Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Tomswheels] #1743102
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UGH It must be terrible to race all year long! Nice job it looks like you did very well overall considering almost 200(!) drivers.

Give us the strait poop here : Can you really catch the fast FS drivers in a 50yr old car? STF was FAST, was it a tight handling/momentum course?

my gut feeling has been that the CAM-T index is a bit too steep but then again I'm thinking leaf springs and not the unlimited blank-slate extent that the rules allow.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Trojmn] #1743103
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We've been making the FS guys jealous for years now we often battle them for top times.

Re: 67 Valiant budget built to race 2015 [Re: Trojmn] #1743104
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UGH It must be terrible to race all year long! Nice job it looks like you did very well overall considering almost 200(!) drivers.

Give us the strait poop here : Can you really catch the fast FS drivers in a 50yr old car? STF was FAST, was it a tight handling/momentum course?

my gut feeling has been that the CAM-T index is a bit too steep but then again I'm thinking leaf springs and not the unlimited blank-slate extent that the rules allow.




The index for CAM is certainly not fair compared to the other classes (particularly STF) in my opinion, but of course I have a 240HP leaf spring / torsion bar car, not a race car like the rules (almost) allow. The course was not overly tight at all, but didn't have any true straights either, but the last course last year was pretty wide open, and the Valiant beat them that day as well. I was fortunate enough to best all the late model muscle cars this day in FS, ESP, and CAM-C, the only exception being a very well driven BMW M3 who got me on his last lap. All that being said the Valiant is light and nimble now, changes direction beautifully, and if the next event has a slalom, I'll get the BMW as well....

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