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Outdated tire questions? #1735528 01/21/15 02:01 PM 01/21/15 02:01 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 2,642 Pewaukee, WI Airgrabber OP master
Airgrabber OP master Joined: May 2003 Posts: 2,642 Pewaukee, WI	A few months ago one of the Mopar Magazines had an article regarding date codes and how to read them etc. Most of the shows I attend, the majority of the guys are running Goodyear Eagle GT II's, Goodyear Nascar, Eagle II's with the eagle head logo,and even the Goodyear nascar with the yellow letters. I'm sure most of these are outdated 5-10 years ago and we are limited to the BFG or Cooper Cobra in a 14 or 15" tire. Are you guys relying on the mileage on the tires instead of the age and is this safe?

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Airgrabber] #1735529 01/21/15 02:16 PM 01/21/15 02:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	You may be mistaking show cars, trailer queens by another name, for cars that get driven regularly. Even if they drive them (I doubt it) they swap tires for something modern when they hit the streets. I regularly run tires to death and have had at least five cases of belts coming off at speed. All of these tires were older than the hills. I'm lucky I drive on straight lonely roads, well except the mountains. We had a complete tread come off an old Michelin on the Interstate and the car instantly became a handful to drive. Front wheel drive, rear tire scalped. I wouldn't have guessed it would be so dangerous on the rear, but it was. So use old tires at your own risk. Let someone else put the last few miles on them. Or do as I do, suffer through the episodes and endure the body damage occurring when the tread whips the fender to shreds. R.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: dogdays] #1735530 01/21/15 02:18 PM 01/21/15 02:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,669 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,669	I maybe put 2000 miles a year on my car. at the rate I burn out tires on my DD, at around 20k miles, that is still 10 years of driving on a set before they would need to be replaced due to mileage. generally, I make sure they aren't dry rotting, and replace them around they 6 to 8 year mark regardless of tread.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Airgrabber] #1735531 01/21/15 03:44 PM 01/21/15 03:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,488 Annapolis, MD, USA V Vert master
Vert master V Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,488 Annapolis, MD, USA	"A few months ago one of the Mopar Magazines had an article regarding date codes and how to read them etc." Do you remember which magazine? I must have missed the article. Tires on my Barracuda were on it when I purchased in 2004. Mostly garage miles. Vert > [img]http://i.imgur.com/JHXmM.jpg[/img]71 Barracuda vert[/url] \| Hemi idling on dyno \| Hemi Dyno pull

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Airgrabber] #1735532 01/21/15 05:28 PM 01/21/15 05:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,998 Salem Grizzly Moparts Proctologist
Grizzly Moparts Proctologist Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,998 Salem	Quote: Are you guys relying on the mileage on the tires instead of the age and is this safe? Mileage. If I changed tires on the cars by date, I would have more sets of tires than oil changes. I've got BF's that have to be 20 years old now and I still run them up 85mph. They have maybe 1500 miles on them at the most. Mo' Farts Moderated by "tbagger".

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Vert] #1735533 01/21/15 07:29 PM 01/21/15 07:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,074 So Cal, USA Fab64 super stock
Fab64 super stock Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,074 So Cal, USA	Quote: "A few months ago one of the Mopar Magazines had an article regarding date codes and how to read them etc." Do you remember which magazine? I must have missed the article. Tires on my Barracuda were on it when I purchased in 2004. Mostly garage miles. Mopar Action, Dec 2014, page 76

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Grizzly] #1735534 01/21/15 07:37 PM 01/21/15 07:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,666 Buford, GA I_bleed_MOPAR master
I_bleed_MOPAR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,666 Buford, GA	Quote: Quote: Are you guys relying on the mileage on the tires instead of the age and is this safe? Mileage. If I changed tires on the cars by date, I would have more sets of tires than oil changes. I've got BF's that have to be 20 years old now and I still run them up 85mph. They have maybe 1500 miles on them at the most. Wear for me. Tires on the Charger are probably 12-13 yrs. old and still look good. Keep the air pressure checked and look them over at least once a month for cracks or bulges. Have about 20k on them. Tim '71 Charger 383/727 '17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car )

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1735535 01/21/15 07:57 PM 01/21/15 07:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	My buddy had some mint looking 15yo tires on his car maybe a few thousand miles on them tops. Rear DS came apart at about 60mph on the expressway totaling the whole quarter panel . They also go bad on the inside and separate from the cords.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: ademon] #1735536 01/21/15 09:45 PM 01/21/15 09:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Three of my old tires that came apart were BFGs, the other two were Michelins. All were old enough to be in high school. R.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Airgrabber] #1735537 01/21/15 10:06 PM 01/21/15 10:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 152 Worcester, Mass 6 68goldfish member
68goldfish member 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 152 Worcester, Mass	Here is one for ya! Massachusetts is considering failing you for a inspection sticker if your tires are ten years old. Right now, both of my daily driven cars have tires that are that old. These tires still have plenty of tread to go.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Airgrabber] #1735538 01/21/15 10:17 PM 01/21/15 10:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,982 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,982 Benton, IL.	We use a lot of used tires on our stuff and I see a lot more failures on cheap import tires than I have ever seen on aged tires. Since matching doesn't matter as much on my trailers, I usually buy old spares at the pick-a-part yards for them. Full tread tires that haven't seen much sun and are often 10, 12, 15 years old or older. I don't have any more problems out of 15+ year old tires than I do out of 3 or 4 year old tires. But on the newer cheap import tires, they often bust cords or throw their treads while still having 1/2 tread or so on our cars. Just plain poor construction. So in my experience, the original construction of the tire is far, far more important than the age of the tire. P.S. The number of tires that I mount that are not round is a real shocker. Sounds weird, but is true. Another example of poor construction. Master, again and still

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: 68goldfish] #1735539 01/21/15 10:21 PM 01/21/15 10:21 PM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 959 france J jose jones super stock
jose jones super stock J Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 959 france	You guys are playing roulette with your life and your prized Mopar's running tires over 4 years old I had a set on a B-Body that were 10 years old with all their tread, On the way to a Mopar show in Phoenix the driver side front BFG threw a chunk of tread off the tire about the size of a softball and about destroyed the front fender. NEVER AGAIN will I run old tires on anything.Don't gamble with your life on old tires

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1735540 01/21/15 10:52 PM 01/21/15 10:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Are you guys relying on the mileage on the tires instead of the age and is this safe? Mileage. If I changed tires on the cars by date, I would have more sets of tires than oil changes. I've got BF's that have to be 20 years old now and I still run them up 85mph. They have maybe 1500 miles on them at the most. Wear for me. Tires on the Charger are probably 12-13 yrs. old and still look good. Keep the air pressure checked and look them over at least once a month for cracks or bulges. Have about 20k on them. Tim Same here, Tim. I bought the tires for my Charger in June 2003 and have less than 10,000 miles on them. The rears have about 50% remaining, the fronts are at about 70%. They still look great because when the car isn't driven, it sits inside my shop with little sunlight inside. Last year I wanted to get the tires REbalanced and the "America's Tire" store wouldn't do it since the tires are more than 10 years old. Lawsuits and greedy plaintiffs really screw over people.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: jose jones] #1735541 01/21/15 10:56 PM 01/21/15 10:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,426 Dandridge TN D Dabee master
Dabee master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,426 Dandridge TN	Quote: You guys are playing roulette with your life and your prized Mopar's running tires over 4 years old I had a set on a B-Body that were 10 years old with all their tread, On the way to a Mopar show in Phoenix the driver side front BFG threw a chunk of tread off the tire about the size of a softball and about destroyed the front fender. NEVER AGAIN will I run old tires on anything.Don't gamble with your life on old tires Age, no more than five years for me. As the tire ages, even if stored inside, they dry out and get hard. Dry hard tires lose grip and don't handle good. I can feel the difference every time I replace the tires. I average about 2000 miles a year on the Bee.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Dabee] #1735542 01/21/15 11:18 PM 01/21/15 11:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	Running old tires is like not believing in the after life - what if you're wrong! No harm in replacing tires prematurely or believing in the after life even if you're wrong. Time all the way for anything I care about, I cheat a little on the rear tires of the Charger cause the quarters are fubared anyway, but the fronts are new. Careful, your character's showing!

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: mopar346] #1735543 01/22/15 03:08 AM 01/22/15 03:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Old tire blow out, just sitting in the driveway. Hadnt driven it that day. (95 F250) 8404361-100_2067a.jpg (109 downloads)

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1735544 01/22/15 03:10 AM 01/22/15 03:10 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Sounded like a 12 gauge going off. Photo date: 6-17-2013 8404365-100_2068a.jpg (115 downloads)

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: jose jones] #1735545 01/22/15 07:15 AM 01/22/15 07:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,862 the frozen wastes... Pale_Roader Swears too much
Pale_Roader Swears too much Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,862 the frozen wastes...	Quote: You guys are playing roulette with your life and your prized Mopar's running tires over 4 years old I had a set on a B-Body that were 10 years old with all their tread, On the way to a Mopar show in Phoenix the driver side front BFG threw a chunk of tread off the tire about the size of a softball and about destroyed the front fender. NEVER AGAIN will I run old tires on anything.Don't gamble with your life on old tires HAH!!!! I'm also playing with my life eating fast food and cheap supermarket meat and dairy. Why? because i'm not rich enough to own my own private farm, and farmers, that grow my own true organic meat and grain, to be prepared into daily meals by my own personal chef. Must be nice to be rich! Four years... hahahahahahahahahahaha..... I think in my 25 years ov driving (bloody goddamn fast) i've owned ONE set ov tires that were under 4 years old. ONE. My POS Charger was even nice enough to break the K-member and scrub the fronts from brand blue-lettered-new to right down to the cords in 200 miles too... so yeah, owned a PAIR ov newer tires, and another for about 8 days. Most ov my tires are anywhere from 10 to 20 years old. No helping that. I'd rather have some nice 15 year old BFG's on there than some brand new Coopers... or some 15 year old 295/50/15's than some brand new 235/70/15's. Never had a problem... and i see more illegal speed on public roads than you (plural). Bet on that. New tires are a luxury. The girlfriend brought brand new BFG G-Force KDW2's for her Mustang GT... damn that was nice...

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Airgrabber] #1735546 01/22/15 02:31 PM 01/22/15 02:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,357 central Florida VL21 pro stock
VL21 pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,357 central Florida	The only tires I have personally had that failed, came apart or broke cords, have ALL been BFG T/As. Some bought new, some on the car when purchased. I see BFG mentioned in this post also ... Had a balance problem with one from new, at mounting, wouldn't balance it was so far out. I still like the looks, but the quality? I think it is questionable. It takes gasoline to interest me.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: VL21] #1735547 01/22/15 02:44 PM 01/22/15 02:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,998 Salem Grizzly Moparts Proctologist
Grizzly Moparts Proctologist Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,998 Salem	My hope is now that Michelin owns BF that the quality will be better. The three sets I have now seem to be good. But, in the past I've had two sets that didn't work out. Seperated 4 of them by running the car above the speed rating for 45 minutes, so, my fault. But, the other set, from brand-new they could not balance them and one of the back ones seperated. Wound up pulling them all off and put Generals on. I was really impressed with the Generals after going the rounds with BF. Mo' Farts Moderated by "tbagger".

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