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Go to any big money five-day bracket race and you will find dragsters and roadsters sitting outside in the sun all day long for the entire week....covered with tarps only over-night....some of these teams carry 4-5 dragsters in a trailer....they don't put them away every night....they would rather party

And these guys race week after week chasing the big buck races....they get their share of wear&tear

Rickster

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But I do know this for certain you let a dragster set out in the hot sun very long when you set your a$$ down it,it will be like putting an egg in a hot frying fan. Ask me how I know that.

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Is it because your track let's you race in cut off shorts? Sorry, couldn't resist.

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But I do know this for certain you let a dragster set out in the hot sun very long when you set your a$$ down it,it will be like putting an egg in a hot frying fan. Ask me how I know that.

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Is it because your track let's you race in cut off shorts? Sorry, couldn't resist.

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I would prefer you did not admire my legs. I know what you meant thats what racing all about "The Thrill,The Fun and Hopes Of Winning" If it ever gets to the point and it has been there before that I no longer have fun and enjoy racing,that when I will quit racing,if anything is no fun I'm no longer going to do it!

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By the way underwear over two years old should be replaced according to reports released by Hanes.

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Underwear should never be thought of as a safety device...

A containment device, maybe...

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This is a direct copy from an e mail question I asked SFI. IMO if the material is only good for two years USE A BETTER MATERIAL!

"The life of the harness certification is due to the known properties of webbing and the relatively rapid degradation over time. There have been many studies, including those by the U.S. Army, the NTSB, Industry associations, and SFI. Some of these studies are summarized in the attached document."

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Frankly factory belt specs really don't matter. They are NEVER tight, except in the case of an impact, which may be never. They are not pulled and tugged on through tightening clamps hundreds of times. They are not stressed at the point of attachment, at some odd angles and they are NOT designed to keep YOU and your SEAT, anchored in a car in the event of a high speed........like 200+ mph impact. The vast majority of "street" accidents are at speeds of 40 mph or less. The majority of racing accidents are at speeds in excess of 100mph.

Simple question......if your "street" car were capable of the speeds that your "race" car is, would you be confident in your factory restraint system keeping you in the car, in the event of a high speed crash. If your answer to that is yes.........well I guess that makes you a much braver man than me. Because my answer would be HELL NO. And I don't car if you can pick up a Sherman tank with a stock seat belt......I wouldn't trust it in my race car. Somebody mentioned junkyards pulling motors with stock seat belts..........well I would HOPE so, seeing the average small block is less than 600lbs. When we used to go "junking" all the time, I have pulled motors with some old pieces of rope we found lying around. You know what that means......NOTHING.......unless of course that signifies that we should trust a piece of old rope to be "good enough".........after all, you can pull a motor with it.

Monte

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Monte... maybe you dont know what the hell your talking
about... BELTS are a containment system.. in your
street car or race car... a street car uses a 2" system
and the race car uses a 3" system... both do the SAME
damn job... the cage keeps you from the big hurt..
I quit.... whether I were to supply you with data
I would be full of SH!T...as usual you MUST be right...
BUT I totally disagree

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Frankly factory belt specs really don't matter. They are NEVER tight, except in the case of an impact, which may be never. They are not pulled and tugged on through tightening clamps hundreds of times. They are not stressed at the point of attachment, at some odd angles and they are NOT designed to keep YOU and your SEAT, anchored in a car in the event of a high speed........like 200+ mph impact. The vast majority of "street" accidents are at speeds of 40 mph or less. The majority of racing accidents are at speeds in excess of 100mph.

Simple question......if your "street" car were capable of the speeds that your "race" car is, would you be confident in your factory restraint system keeping you in the car, in the event of a high speed crash. If your answer to that is yes.........well I guess that makes you a much braver man than me. Because my answer would be HELL NO. And I don't car if you can pick up a Sherman tank with a stock seat belt......I wouldn't trust it in my race car. Somebody mentioned junkyards pulling motors with stock seat belts..........well I would HOPE so, seeing the average small block is less than 600lbs. When we used to go "junking" all the time, I have pulled motors with some old pieces of rope we found lying around. You know what that means......NOTHING.......unless of course that signifies that we should trust a piece of old rope to be "good enough".........after all, you can pull a motor with it.

Monte

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Monte... maybe you dont know what the hell your talking
about... BELTS are a containment system.. in your
street car or race car... a street car uses a 2" system
and the race car uses a 3" system... both do the SAME
damn job... the cage keeps you from the big hurt..
I quit.... whether I were to supply you with data
I would be full of SH!T...as usual you MUST be right...
BUT I totally disagree

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You didn't answer my question...........In the event of a high speed crash, at "track" speeds, do you think the "containment" system in your everyday car would be good enough to keep you and the seat in place...........simple question with a yes or no answer.

Monte

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I would say yes.... you seem to think you are hitting
something at 200 mph... no one pulled a concrete
wall out into the middle of the lane...you are hitting
at some angle(unknown) so the actual impact speed
might be 100 mph(just a number) but it isnt a head
on crash.. so yes I believe the standard 2" belts
would keep the driver in the seat

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The solution is simple and been pointed out numerous times. DONT RACE or find a nice little outlaw track to run at. We know one person posting loves to run at places where safety is not a big concern and a couple of the others posting seldom if ever hit a race track. This is getting a bit old and if a $70 set of seatbelts every couple of years is what keeps you from racing then for gods sake FIND A NEW HOBBIE

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This is not the problem/issue at all... the thing
that some are TRYING to do is get the time frame
changed... I myself dont see ANY problem trying to
do it... if you never try.. it sure wont ever happen

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The solution is simple and been pointed out numerous times. DONT RACE or find a nice little outlaw track to run at. We know one person posting loves to run at places where safety is not a big concern and a couple of the others posting seldom if ever hit a race track. This is getting a bit old and if a $70 set of seatbelts every couple of years is what keeps you from racing then for gods sake FIND A NEW HOBBIE

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If what other Racers do or don't do with or too there race cars really stress's you out all that bad then maybe its you who should find another Hobby!

PS I do not run cheap belts in my cars I run the Hi $$$ cam lock belts in my cars,it takes to long to un-latch the cheaper kind,but thats the only thing they are still just as good.And yes I could afford to change the Daymn Belts every year if I chose,but it just does not make sense to have to,the only reason it is being done is too pad some "Fat Cats" pocket!