Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... #1726843
01/11/15 01:45 AM
01/11/15 01:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
So, I have brand new MOOG LCA ball joints I was in the process of installing on my Dart with 73+ disc brake spindles. Now I'm having a couple issues... First off, the nut that ties the ball joint to the LCA spindle is a PIA to get to and I'm only able to "tighten" the nut 1/8 to 1/4 turn at a time. My second issue is that the threaded member (or bolt) is spinning within the ball joint. Am I supposed to have a wrench somewhere to stop the threaded portion from spinning or do I have a faulty part?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726844
01/11/15 02:05 AM
01/11/15 02:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Picture of said nut... The whole nut and bolt just spin as one piece.

8392114-LCANUT.jpg (286 downloads)
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726845
01/11/15 02:06 AM
01/11/15 02:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,153
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,153
Mass
You didn't grease the ball joint before assy did you?



In any case, just give the lower control arm a rap with a hammer to force it down slightly to wedge the taper, put a few washers under the nut, eventually eliminating them as you tighten the nut several times and removing a few washers each time untill the taper establishes a tight enough fit for you to fully draw it into the LCA ball joint tapered bore

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: DAYCLONA] #1726846
01/11/15 02:09 AM
01/11/15 02:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
It looks to me like the nut is cross threaded. You should be able to run that nut down by hand a lot further then that.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: DAYCLONA] #1726847
01/11/15 02:09 AM
01/11/15 02:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

You didn't grease the ball joint before assy did you?




I did not... Should I have done that? Or did I screw it up?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726848
01/11/15 02:12 AM
01/11/15 02:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
When you get the nut on straight you can smack the A arm down onto the stud a little and that should help.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: stumpy] #1726849
01/11/15 02:12 AM
01/11/15 02:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,323
NY NY
3
340duster340 Offline
master
340duster340  Offline
master
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,323
NY NY
Quote:

It looks to me like the nut is cross threaded. You should be able to run that nut down by hand a lot further then that.






1966 Dart GT ...down to only 1 mopar for the first time in 15 years!
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: stumpy] #1726850
01/11/15 02:12 AM
01/11/15 02:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

It looks to me like the nut is cross threaded. You should be able to run that nut down by hand a lot further then that.




I can't tighten it or loosen it by hand...

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726851
01/11/15 02:13 AM
01/11/15 02:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
Like I said it looks cross threaded. Drive the A arm down on the stud and try to take the nut back off.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726852
01/11/15 02:16 AM
01/11/15 02:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,153
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,153
Mass
Quote:

Quote:

You didn't grease the ball joint before assy did you?




I did not... Should I have done that? Or did I screw it up?







Just checking as some individuals "pre grease" the ball joint before install thinking they're ahead of the gane, only causing it to spin while tightening...

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: stumpy] #1726853
01/11/15 02:20 AM
01/11/15 02:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,473
Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC
J
JDMopar Offline
master
JDMopar  Offline
master
J

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,473
Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC
I usually leave the upper ball joint loose until I get the lower one tight. You have to push it up in the lower control arm to get the taper to bite a little so the ball joint stud doesn't spin. If you leave the top loose, you can tilt the spindle enough to get a socket on it instead of a wrench. You'll get it. None of us knew how to do it the first time. At least you're trying and learning.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: JDMopar] #1726854
01/11/15 02:25 AM
01/11/15 02:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
I'll try it out right now, if not tomorrow. And I was expecting having the entire suspension done and torqued today. I love how this crap always happens to me.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: JDMopar] #1726855
01/11/15 02:35 AM
01/11/15 02:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
So let me get this straight, you guys want me to remove the UCA ball joint from the spindle so that I can realign the LCA ball joint so the taper "bites" and I can remove the nut?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726856
01/11/15 02:42 AM
01/11/15 02:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
R
RUNCHARGER Offline
I Live Here
RUNCHARGER  Offline
I Live Here
R

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
You can try clamping the taper into the lca to stop it from spinning or sometimes put side pressure on it (or a combo). I would spin the nut off and inspect the stud and nut threads before doing anything else though, they are damaged and it doesn't take much to cause a problem.

Sheldon

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726857
01/11/15 02:51 AM
01/11/15 02:51 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4 Offline
master
rowin4  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
I think if you loosen, not take off the ball joint from the spindle it would give you enough room to get a socket on the ball joint stud nut. You have pressure from the jack pushing the stud in. As stated above, the nut should turn on easily by hand, if not you either cross threaded the nut or the threads are jammed up so the nut will not thread on. Take the nut off, take a look and proceed to reassemble correctly .


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: rowin4] #1726858
01/11/15 03:15 AM
01/11/15 03:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
So, with the T-bars installed, I jacked up the LCA balljoint and it seated itself in. I was then able to back off the nut with a wrench. However, I don't think the nut is the issue. The threads look good or at least better than the ball joint's.

8392161-Threads2.jpg (161 downloads)
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726859
01/11/15 03:16 AM
01/11/15 03:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
It seems like the threads are flattened where the holes are for the cotter pins (hard to see in the picture). I'll ask my friend if he can bring a die next weekend.

8392162-Threads1.jpg (213 downloads)
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726860
01/11/15 03:32 AM
01/11/15 03:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,444
So Cal
autoxcuda Offline
Too Many Posts
autoxcuda  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,444
So Cal
Quote:

It seems like the threads are flattened where the holes are for the cotter pins (hard to see in the picture). I'll ask my friend if he can bring a die next weekend.




How about getting a small brush (old toothbrush) and clean the dirt out of the threads.

Gotta be careful not to knick the threads while installing ball joints though the taper hole.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: autoxcuda] #1726861
01/11/15 03:39 AM
01/11/15 03:39 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,677
Fresno, CA
Jim_Lusk Offline
I Live Here
Jim_Lusk  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,677
Fresno, CA
Either the picture is weird or the stud is bad. Look and make sure the threads are straight (I don't think they are). What brand are the joints?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1726862
01/11/15 04:02 AM
01/11/15 04:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Either the picture is weird or the stud is bad. Look and make sure the threads are straight (I don't think they are). What brand are the joints?




These are MOOG ball joints. The picture may be a little weird as it was taken in a poorly lit garage (I only have 2-4 lightbulbs on) and a camera phone with flash. But to the right of the stud, it looks weird due to the hole for the cotter pin. From my visual inspection about an hour or so ago, the threads looked like they were flattened around the area of the cotter pin.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726863
01/11/15 04:43 AM
01/11/15 04:43 AM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 240
fredericksburg virginia
M
mopwrd340 Offline
enthusiast
mopwrd340  Offline
enthusiast
M

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 240
fredericksburg virginia
It looks like the top of the stud is bent like someone hit it with a hammer.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726864
01/11/15 04:44 AM
01/11/15 04:44 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,677
Fresno, CA
Jim_Lusk Offline
I Live Here
Jim_Lusk  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,677
Fresno, CA
They can be flattened for two reasons. One because they are shorter (that's ok in that area). The other is that they are crushed (not ok). Clean the threads and try again...

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1726865
01/11/15 09:02 AM
01/11/15 09:02 AM
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 45
Delaware
G
GeorgeH Offline
member
GeorgeH  Offline
member
G

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 45
Delaware
I agree with the above statements, the threads as they near the cotter pin hole don't look proper. Also looks like the top has been worked with a file or smacked pretty hard. Take the 2 bolts for the spindle out and drop the ball joint back out to look at it. If it's been hit hard likely to deform because of the cotter pin hole. Also , your stuff dirty for reassembly, or are those filings?. A squirt from a can of brake clean will clean things up. A lower ball joint is not something to take a chance on. If it's questionable at all,get another one. As said the nut should thread all the way down by hand.How ypou going to hold it to run a die down it? Do not score up the tapered seat.

Last edited by GeorgeH; 01/11/15 09:17 AM.
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: GeorgeH] #1726866
01/11/15 11:06 AM
01/11/15 11:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,710
ohio
R
ruderunner Offline
master
ruderunner  Offline
master
R

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,710
ohio
Yep it's mushroomed on the end. Need a new ball joint. Since it's not a self locking nut you should be able to spin it all the way down with your fingers, then torque to spec and install the cotter pin.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: ruderunner] #1726867
01/11/15 11:15 AM
01/11/15 11:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,020
Andrews,In. U.S.of A.
6
67_Satellite Offline
super stock
67_Satellite  Offline
super stock
6

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,020
Andrews,In. U.S.of A.
A thread file or die will save that part. The thread damage isn"t that bad but must be adressed.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: 67_Satellite] #1726868
01/11/15 12:08 PM
01/11/15 12:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,323
NY NY
3
340duster340 Offline
master
340duster340  Offline
master
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,323
NY NY
as mentioned above, i would just replace the part. well worth the $30 for the peace of mind, and lesson learned.

in time you will learn the "touch"

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: JDMopar] #1726869
01/11/15 01:14 PM
01/11/15 01:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 9,654
Southern by Choice
S
Shoozy Offline
I have a foot fetish
Shoozy  Offline
I have a foot fetish
S

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 9,654
Southern by Choice
Quote:

None of us knew how to do it the first time. At least you're trying and learning.





This. JD nailed it.


Old, tired, and sometimes broke down. Me, not my car...
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726870
01/11/15 01:41 PM
01/11/15 01:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,482
Lake Orion, MI
goldduster318 Offline
pro stock
goldduster318  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,482
Lake Orion, MI
Quote:

It seems like the threads are flattened where the holes are for the cotter pins (hard to see in the picture). I'll ask my friend if he can bring a die next weekend.




There's a Harbor Freight tools where you live. Pick up an SAE tap and die set (they are usually like $35). You'll use it a zillion times anyway. Then you can get more work done. You'll probably want to take the joint off the arm (hit what it goes through method, or a puller) to chase the threads. Everything will be fine.


'70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: goldduster318] #1726871
01/11/15 02:12 PM
01/11/15 02:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
skicker Offline
"The Champ"
skicker  Offline
"The Champ"

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
Muu Muu
1) Disassemble what you have done till the spindle can be moved to the workbench.
2) See if a file will clean up the threads so that you can spin the nut either by hand or with a small amount of resistance. If not replace the LBJ.
3) After you have it working or have replaced the LBJ, install the LBJ through the LCA. Make sure the slot for the cotter pin is facing front to back.
4) Put a small floor jack under the spindle so the taper is seated in the LCA and tighten it down and install the cotter pin. Access with a wrench and a rachet will be 10x better.
5) Install the UCA down over the spindle. Again, make sure the cotter pin slot goes front to rear and tighten.
Aligning the cotter pin slots seems like extra work but if you ever have to fool with it again you'll be glad you did it.


...FAFO...
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: skicker] #1726872
01/11/15 02:23 PM
01/11/15 02:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Lovely, exactly what I wanted to do, take apart half the entire front suspension just to fix a new part. I'll buy a tap and die set next weekend and work on it. Is there an "easy" way to unseat the LCA and UCA ball joints from the spindle without using a pickle fork? And for the record, I did not hammer or file these ball joints.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726873
01/11/15 02:40 PM
01/11/15 02:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
R
RUNCHARGER Offline
I Live Here
RUNCHARGER  Offline
I Live Here
R

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
The stud is bent, You can try chasing the threads but you risk cutting material from the threads on a key suspension part.
I would just purchase a new balljoint, why compromise something so important. It's 10 minutes extra work to change it out, but now is the time to do it.
Just put a centre punch in the middle of the top of the stud and give it a light tap with even a carpenters hammer, it will loosen it.

Sheldon

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1726874
01/11/15 02:56 PM
01/11/15 02:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,444
So Cal
autoxcuda Offline
Too Many Posts
autoxcuda  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,444
So Cal
Quote:

The stud is bent, You can try chasing the threads but you risk cutting material from the threads on a key suspension part.
I would just purchase a new balljoint, why compromise something so important. It's 10 minutes extra work to change it out, but now is the time to do it.
Just put a centre punch in the middle of the top of the stud and give it a light tap with even a carpenters hammer, it will loosen it.

Sheldon




I can't see how you could for sure say it's bent from those pictures. I see a thread second from the top on the left side that looks a little dinged. He might be able to work the nut back and forth by hand to straighten that.

BTW the threads near the cotter pin are commonly chamfered in a little. No big deal. And because he took the picture pure perpendicular to the cotter pin centerline, it looks like it's necked in there.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: autoxcuda] #1726875
01/11/15 03:14 PM
01/11/15 03:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
I takes a lot to bend a ball joint stud and that one doesn't look bent. But the threads need fixing to where you can run the nut down by hand and then tighten it with a wrench.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: stumpy] #1726876
01/11/15 03:18 PM
01/11/15 03:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

I takes a lot to bend a ball joint stud and that one doesn't look bent. But the threads need fixing to where you can run the nut down by hand and then tighten it with a wrench.




I was just going to say, where is everyone seeing the bend because from that picture I don't see much of any a bend and I just took a quick look at it from under my car and it looks straight. I will agree that the threads look "smashed" by the cotter pins (not shown in the picture). The nut only went down about two full threads. I'll pull the LCA balljoint off, get a die, and try running the threads hopefully by or before next weekend.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726877
01/11/15 03:21 PM
01/11/15 03:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,444
So Cal
autoxcuda Offline
Too Many Posts
autoxcuda  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,444
So Cal
Quote:

Quote:

I takes a lot to bend a ball joint stud and that one doesn't look bent. But the threads need fixing to where you can run the nut down by hand and then tighten it with a wrench.




I was just going to say, where is everyone seeing the bend because from that picture I don't see much of any a bend and I just took a quick look at it from under my car and it looks straight. I will agree that the threads look "smashed" by the cotter pins (not shown in the picture). The nut only went down about two full threads. I'll pull the LCA balljoint off, get a die, and try running the threads hopefully by or before next weekend.




You shouldn't need to take it off to run the die on it. Just do it were it is.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726878
01/11/15 03:40 PM
01/11/15 03:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,482
Lake Orion, MI
goldduster318 Offline
pro stock
goldduster318  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,482
Lake Orion, MI
Quote:

Lovely, exactly what I wanted to do, take apart half the entire front suspension just to fix a new part. I'll buy a tap and die set next weekend and work on it. Is there an "easy" way to unseat the LCA and UCA ball joints from the spindle without using a pickle fork? And for the record, I did not hammer or file these ball joints.




Tie rod puller. I have a cheapo one that's kinda narrow so I may have used a pitman arm puller on the upper one. Usually comes right out.


'70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726879
01/11/15 03:57 PM
01/11/15 03:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,666
North Dakota
6PakBee Offline
I Live Here
6PakBee  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,666
North Dakota
Quote:

Lovely, exactly what I wanted to do, take apart half the entire front suspension just to fix a new part. I'll buy a tap and die set next weekend and work on it. Is there an "easy" way to unseat the LCA and UCA ball joints from the spindle without using a pickle fork? And for the record, I did not hammer or file these ball joints.




If the stud is spinning in the LCA, the ball joint isn't set. Back off the torsion bar completely, jack the LCA up and the ball joint should just drop out. Then you can remove the lower ball joint, stick it in your vise, and work on it without fighting anything.


"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726880
01/11/15 04:00 PM
01/11/15 04:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi  Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
I might have a die around...what thread is it?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: OzHemi] #1726881
01/11/15 04:02 PM
01/11/15 04:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

I might have a die around...what thread is it?




No idea... I don't have a thread gauge.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: 6PakBee] #1726882
01/11/15 04:03 PM
01/11/15 04:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Quote:

Lovely, exactly what I wanted to do, take apart half the entire front suspension just to fix a new part. I'll buy a tap and die set next weekend and work on it. Is there an "easy" way to unseat the LCA and UCA ball joints from the spindle without using a pickle fork? And for the record, I did not hammer or file these ball joints.




If the stud is spinning in the LCA, the ball joint isn't set. Back off the torsion bar completely, jack the LCA up and the ball joint should just drop out. Then you can remove the lower ball joint, stick it in your vise, and work on it without fighting anything.




I already set the LCA in the ball joint to get the nut out and the Torsion bars are already backed off completely.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: 6PakBee] #1726883
01/11/15 04:14 PM
01/11/15 04:14 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
skicker Offline
"The Champ"
skicker  Offline
"The Champ"

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
Quote:

Then you can remove the lower ball joint, stick it in your vise, and work on it without fighting anything.




DING DING DING!!!
It will take no more time to take it apart and do it right. If your worried about reassembly put the LBJ on the LCA first..jack it up into place and tighten it. Then bolt the two bolts from the spindle into the lBJ. Nothing says it has to go on the spindle first.


...FAFO...
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: Shoozy] #1726884
01/11/15 04:17 PM
01/11/15 04:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,695
Bitopia
J
jcc Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc  Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
J

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,695
Bitopia
Quote:

Quote:

None of us knew how to do it the first time. At least you're trying and learning.





This. JD nailed it.




A Good reminder


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726885
01/11/15 04:43 PM
01/11/15 04:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,666
North Dakota
6PakBee Offline
I Live Here
6PakBee  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,666
North Dakota
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Lovely, exactly what I wanted to do, take apart half the entire front suspension just to fix a new part. I'll buy a tap and die set next weekend and work on it. Is there an "easy" way to unseat the LCA and UCA ball joints from the spindle without using a pickle fork? And for the record, I did not hammer or file these ball joints.




If the stud is spinning in the LCA, the ball joint isn't set. Back off the torsion bar completely, jack the LCA up and the ball joint should just drop out. Then you can remove the lower ball joint, stick it in your vise, and work on it without fighting anything.




I already set the LCA in the ball joint to get the nut out and the Torsion bars are already backed off completely.




Then Runcharger is right on. Take a center punch, support the LCA so it can't move, whack the stud and it'll come right out. Without tightening the nut, that stud can't be set that tightly.


"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726886
01/11/15 05:30 PM
01/11/15 05:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,454
Glendora Ca.
J
Just-a-dart Offline
pro stock
Just-a-dart  Offline
pro stock
J

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,454
Glendora Ca.
MuuMuu if you want to barrow a thread file and a die I am in Glendora close by. PM me if you want



"Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: 6PakBee] #1726887
01/11/15 05:30 PM
01/11/15 05:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4 Offline
master
rowin4  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
Ok, you have to take the ball joint off to repair the threads. The first thing I would check is did someone put a metric nut in the new ball joint box?????? Next, fixing the threads: a threading die has been mentioned, the proper item is what they call a HEX RETHREADING DIE. This die does not cut threads but straightens them , same with the tap, if you already have threads, you don't want to cut new ones, that just removes metal that you need for proper torque. Also use a RETHREAD TAP, It will straighten the thread without removing metal and clean the hole of debree..



it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: rowin4] #1726888
01/11/15 06:00 PM
01/11/15 06:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,848
Memphis
HemiRick Offline
master
HemiRick  Offline
master

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,848
Memphis
Damn everyone is making this so hard. Grind or file the threads above the hole so the nut will go on.....These threads dont matter anyway as they aren't used.


Take care,
Rick
68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: HemiRick] #1726889
01/11/15 06:24 PM
01/11/15 06:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,117
Mesa, Arizona
D
dart4forte Offline
I Live Here
dart4forte  Offline
I Live Here
D

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,117
Mesa, Arizona
Quote:

Damn everyone is making this so hard. Grind or file the threads above the hole so the nut will go on.....These threads dont matter anyway as they aren't used.






Just did mine and had the same issue. Just filed the threads and it went on with no problem. Always a good idea to check threads by running a nut over the threads so if there's an issue it can be fixed before installation.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: Just-a-dart] #1726890
01/11/15 08:01 PM
01/11/15 08:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

MuuMuu if you want to barrow a thread file and a die I am in Glendora close by. PM me if you want




Sure thing. I'll pm you sometime this week as I don't know how my schedule is going to look.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726891
01/12/15 02:27 AM
01/12/15 02:27 AM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 6,005
Reno, Nevada
NV69B7RR Offline
master
NV69B7RR  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 6,005
Reno, Nevada
I'm guessing you got a balljoint that someone F'd up and then returned saying it was good. Rockauto by chance? No worries, it can be fixed.

Its happened to all us at some point. We all had to learn the same way.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: NV69B7RR] #1726892
01/13/15 12:59 AM
01/13/15 12:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

I'm guessing you got a balljoint that someone F'd up and then returned saying it was good. Rockauto by chance? No worries, it can be fixed.

Its happened to all us at some point. We all had to learn the same way.




Yeah, it's a Rockauto part...

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726893
01/13/15 03:40 PM
01/13/15 03:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
For future reference run the nut on and off the stud by hand before installing. Just be sure everything works.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: stumpy] #1726894
01/14/15 03:58 AM
01/14/15 03:58 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

For future reference run the nut on and off the stud by hand before installing. Just be sure everything works.




Thanks... I'll write it down and post it on my garage fridge.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726895
01/14/15 11:03 PM
01/14/15 11:03 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
skicker Offline
"The Champ"
skicker  Offline
"The Champ"

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
If you put a sticky on the fridge for all the do's and don'ts you better get a bigger fridge...


...FAFO...
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: rowin4] #1726896
01/15/15 12:32 AM
01/15/15 12:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,193
fredericksburg,va
C
cudaman1969 Offline
master
cudaman1969  Offline
master
C

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,193
fredericksburg,va
Quote:

Ok, you have to take the ball joint off to repair the threads. The first thing I would check is did someone put a metric nut in the new ball joint box?????? Next, fixing the threads: a threading die has been mentioned, the proper item is what they call a HEX RETHREADING DIE. This die does not cut threads but straightens them , same with the tap, if you already have threads, you don't want to cut new ones, that just removes metal that you need for proper torque. Also use a RETHREAD TAP, It will straighten the thread without removing metal and clean the hole of debree..

This is what i ran into changing ball joints,metric nuts, did the same thing you are going thru, check with old nut for fitment. Had to use the old nuts, whitch where ok





Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: skicker] #1726897
01/15/15 02:09 AM
01/15/15 02:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

If you put a sticky on the fridge for all the do's and don'ts you better get a bigger fridge...




That could be arranged. More room for... and other tasties.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726898
01/15/15 11:51 AM
01/15/15 11:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,666
North Dakota
6PakBee Offline
I Live Here
6PakBee  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,666
North Dakota
You guys might laugh but I requested a larger PC monitor at work because the old one wasn't large enough to hold all the sticky notes!


"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726899
01/17/15 07:35 PM
01/17/15 07:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Just removed the LCA Balljoint... No bend.

8399492-threads2.jpg (51 downloads)
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726900
01/17/15 07:36 PM
01/17/15 07:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
One side...

8399493-threads1.jpg (86 downloads)
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726901
01/17/15 07:37 PM
01/17/15 07:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Other side... Bad picture.

8399494-threads3.jpg (93 downloads)
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726902
01/17/15 07:39 PM
01/17/15 07:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
So, I think I'm going to head over to HF to get a tap and die set. When I run the threads how should I hold the part so the center ball joint doesn't rotate as I'm utilizing the die?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726903
01/17/15 07:55 PM
01/17/15 07:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
nomore65BelvJim Offline
I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
Did you try the other sides ball joint nut on it?
Or one of the old ones?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1726904
01/17/15 08:09 PM
01/17/15 08:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Did you try the other sides ball joint nut on it?
Or one of the old ones?




I tried it and it snags in the exact same spot. The other LCA ball joint seems to be fine, but I'm trying to set it into the LCA to see if I can thread it down further.

Last edited by MuuMuu101; 01/17/15 08:10 PM.
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726905
01/17/15 08:18 PM
01/17/15 08:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
R
RUNCHARGER Offline
I Live Here
RUNCHARGER  Offline
I Live Here
R

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
I don't know how you'll keep it from spinning either, that's why I suggested a new Ball Joint a while back.

Sheldon

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1726906
01/17/15 08:19 PM
01/17/15 08:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

I don't know how you'll keep it from spinning either, that's why I suggested a new Ball Joint a while back.

Sheldon




Makes sense. I must have overlooked your comment.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726907
01/17/15 08:25 PM
01/17/15 08:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Also, I'm having trouble removing the UCA ball joints from the spindle. I get the punch angled properly to pop the balljoint out with a hammer.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726908
01/17/15 08:25 PM
01/17/15 08:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
R
RUNCHARGER Offline
I Live Here
RUNCHARGER  Offline
I Live Here
R

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,976
Chilliwack B.C. Canada
No that's okay, at that time I thought the stud was bent anyway. You might get it by fiddling with it and not jamming the die if you're careful. It won't take much to clean the threads enough for the nut to run on, use lots of oil with the die.

Sheldon

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1726909
01/17/15 08:57 PM
01/17/15 08:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
I just looked on Summit. Reading the reviews, it seems like other people had problems with smashed threads.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726910
01/17/15 09:06 PM
01/17/15 09:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,884
Grand Prairie,Texas
That's why I buy from the local parts store so I can return bad parts and not have to wait to reinstall good ones. The whole deal should have been a one day job.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726911
01/17/15 09:40 PM
01/17/15 09:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,118
85086
moparpollack Offline
Lil Herman
moparpollack  Offline
Lil Herman

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,118
85086
The only way I ever cured a spinning ball joint is to put a jack under the lower ball joint and force the taper portion into he spindle until it stopped spinning.

Stop being an engineer and start forcing thing like a mechanic.


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: moparpollack] #1726912
01/17/15 09:43 PM
01/17/15 09:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi  Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
Bring it over and I can weld the ball joint stud to the ball joint so it won't spin.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726913
01/17/15 09:46 PM
01/17/15 09:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi  Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
Quote:

Also, I'm having trouble removing the UCA ball joints from the spindle. I get the punch angled properly to pop the balljoint out with a hammer.




Hit the side of the spindle where the ball joint stud goes through, with a a couple times and it should pop loose.

8399637-spindle.jpg (106 downloads)
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: OzHemi] #1726914
01/17/15 09:46 PM
01/17/15 09:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,118
85086
moparpollack Offline
Lil Herman
moparpollack  Offline
Lil Herman

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,118
85086
Quote:

Bring it over and I can weld the ball joint stud to the ball joint so it won't spin.




That only works for upper ball joints!


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: OzHemi] #1726915
01/17/15 09:49 PM
01/17/15 09:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,118
85086
moparpollack Offline
Lil Herman
moparpollack  Offline
Lil Herman

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,118
85086
Quote:

Quote:

Also, I'm having trouble removing the UCA ball joints from the spindle. I get the punch angled properly to pop the balljoint out with a hammer.




Hit the side of the spindle where the ball joint stud goes through, with a a couple times and it should pop loose.




Yup use the force of the hammer!


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: moparpollack] #1726916
01/17/15 09:52 PM
01/17/15 09:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi  Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
Quote:

Quote:

Bring it over and I can weld the ball joint stud to the ball joint so it won't spin.




That only works for upper ball joints!




Once I fire up the welder, it is hard to stop..

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726917
01/17/15 09:52 PM
01/17/15 09:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,323
NY NY
3
340duster340 Offline
master
340duster340  Offline
master
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,323
NY NY
Quote:

Also, I'm having trouble removing the UCA ball joints from the spindle. I get the punch angled properly to pop the balljoint out with a hammer.




get a pickle fork and lube it up so you don't rip the boot. it will come right out.

or if you are coordinated enough a whack with a lump hammer directly to the top of the spindle should free it as well.

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: moparpollack] #1726918
01/17/15 10:05 PM
01/17/15 10:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
skicker Offline
"The Champ"
skicker  Offline
"The Champ"

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
Quote:

The only way I ever cured a spinning ball joint is to put a jack under the lower ball joint and force the taper portion into he spindle until it stopped spinning.

Stop being an engineer and start forcing thing like a mechanic.




ditto....Jack the lower BJ up into the control arm, unbolt it from the spindle and quit fooling with the upper BJ. Tighten the lower BJ up, put the cotter pin in and then put the 2 bolts in the spindle. Make sure you line the cotter pin hole up front to back!


...FAFO...
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: skicker] #1726919
01/17/15 11:34 PM
01/17/15 11:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Quote:

The only way I ever cured a spinning ball joint is to put a jack under the lower ball joint and force the taper portion into he spindle until it stopped spinning.

Stop being an engineer and start forcing thing like a mechanic.




ditto....Jack the lower BJ up into the control arm, unbolt it from the spindle and quit fooling with the upper BJ. Tighten the lower BJ up, put the cotter pin in and then put the 2 bolts in the spindle. Make sure you line the cotter pin hole up front to back!




To be fair, the LCA ball joint castle nut is a total PIA to get to with the UCA balljoint in place. Although, your way doesn't sound too bad either. So I'm assuming the cotter pin will be a PIA if the hole is facing wheel to frame rails?

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: OzHemi] #1726920
01/17/15 11:34 PM
01/17/15 11:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
MuuMuu101 Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101  Offline OP
I got lucky at Woodward!

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,375
SoCal
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Bring it over and I can weld the ball joint stud to the ball joint so it won't spin.




That only works for upper ball joints!




Once I fire up the welder, it is hard to stop..




I'll be right over!

Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726921
01/19/15 11:21 AM
01/19/15 11:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
skicker Offline
"The Champ"
skicker  Offline
"The Champ"

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,097
Western Md.
Correct. Sometimes its a huge pita to remove the cotter pin at a later time when it runs from frame to wheel. When the LBJ is unbolted from the spindle lift the spindle and UCA up out of the way and strap it up in the wheel well.


...FAFO...
Re: Am I Doing Something Wrong? LCA Balljoint Issue... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1726922
01/19/15 11:53 AM
01/19/15 11:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,180
Detroit, MI
CokeBottleKid Offline
master
CokeBottleKid  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,180
Detroit, MI
Quote:

So, I think I'm going to head over to HF to get a tap and die set. When I run the threads how should I hold the part so the center ball joint doesn't rotate as I'm utilizing the die?




Kid someone beat on that ball joint stud, return it and get a new one. You try to run a die over those threads and you'll most likely make it worse and then you can't return it.

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1