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5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

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I think you'd be closer to around 26th ....

Seriously, there's not a car on that list not capable of going sub 5.30 to the 1/8th.

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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

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From the previews it looks like Murder Nova will race Daves S10 this coming week,I think the Nova will beat him!
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What the hell the HangOver Nationals have been called for this week.

From the previews it looks like Murder Nova will race Daves S10 this coming week,I think the Nova will beat him!
What do the rest of you think about that race?

I also think either Chief or Shawn will go to the #1 spot this season just not sure which will end up at #1.

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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

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Sorry to say this but, the only time a mopar will make that top ten list is if they put a 632 big block chevy plus turbos or big shots of nos. The old farm truck is kicking out 1500 HP and can't get on.

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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

So only two turbo cars in top 5

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IF you were to enter into their top 10 list... Where do you think you would be ranked? You can use your street or race car...

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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

So only two turbo cars in top 5

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IF you were to enter into their top 10 list... Where do you think you would be ranked? You can use your street or race car...

Just to get this rolling.. I think I would slide in to about the #6 position with my N/A big tire Duster..

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Sorry to say this but, the only time a mopar will make that top ten list is if they put a 632 big block chevy plus turbos or big shots of nos. The old farm truck is kicking out 1500 HP and can't get on.

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From the previews it looks like Murder Nova will race Daves S10 this coming week,I think the Nova will beat him!
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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

So only two turbo cars in top 5

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IF you were to enter into their top 10 list... Where do you think you would be ranked? You can use your street or race car...

Just to get this rolling.. I think I would slide in to about the #6 position with my N/A big tire Duster..

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I have no clue how fast those cars run... on or off the track.. But I do know they have raised the bar this year and will be much faster than last year..

But from an outsider point of view and watching the show from the comforts of my lazyboy, I'd say the top 5 racers are in the 4 second range and the bottom half is probably in the mid 5 to low 6 second range..

With my car geared for the 1/4 mile and having this rank amateur (me) tuning it, I've run 5.80's in practice runs.. and yeah, its on the track and not on the streets, but still with a little practice and a little bit of tuning, I could probably make the sled go down the street once or twice.. So I'm confident I'd be somwhere on the list, maybe not quite as high as 6th.. but somewhere..

In fact, I did offer up the Duster to a racer that was invited on the show when the OKC boys were here in Cali... He wrecked his car during test hits and I offered to let him drive the Duster in its place.. Except he had officially stepped down and gave up his spot..

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Sorry to say this but, the only time a mopar will make that top ten list is if they put a 632 big block chevy plus turbos or big shots of nos. The old farm truck is kicking out 1500 HP and can't get on.

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You think a MOPAR engine isn't capable of 3000+???

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It's not all about the power, sure there is a lot of quick mopars at the track, but when you really look at the times, how quick would they be on the street? Look at Lutz, whats he run 6.70 -1/4 mile passes? Got his a$$ handed to him on last weeks show and that is a street driven car

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You brought up the notion that the farm truck has 1500 and can't get in......not I. Your initial point included a specific horsepower number, therefore, I concluded......correctly, according to your post, that somehow, a MOPAR style race engine cannot generate the required steam to get on that list.

Is your point now that a race chassis with MOPAR skin cannot be made to function in the same environment that Chevy, or a Ford bodied race chassis can???

I'm well aware of the issues of getting a reasonably high powered vehicle to "work" in a street environment.....from personal experience, so is your 1st post where you disparaged MOPAR powerplants the issue, or your 2nd post about MOPAR sheetmetal the problem for Dodge and Plymouths???

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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

So only two turbo cars in top 5

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IF you were to enter into their top 10 list... Where do you think you would be ranked? You can use your street or race car...

Just to get this rolling.. I think I would slide in to about the #6 position with my N/A big tire Duster..

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I have no clue how fast those cars run... on or off the track.. But I do know they have raised the bar this year and will be much faster than last year..

But from an outsider point of view and watching the show from the comforts of my lazyboy, I'd say the top 5 racers are in the 4 second range and the bottom half is probably in the mid 5 to low 6 second range..

With my car geared for the 1/4 mile and having this rank amateur (me) tuning it, I've run 5.80's in practice runs.. and yeah, its on the track and not on the streets, but still with a little practice and a little bit of tuning, I could probably make the sled go down the street once or twice.. So I'm confident I'd be somwhere on the list, maybe not quite as high as 6th.. but somewhere..

In fact, I did offer up the Duster to a racer that was invited on the show when the OKC boys were here in Cali... He wrecked his car during test hits and I offered to let him drive the Duster in its place.. Except he had officially stepped down and gave up his spot..

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I have no clue how fast those cars run... on or off the track.. But I do know they have raised the bar this year and will be much faster than last year..

But from an outsider point of view and watching the show from the comforts of my lazyboy, I'd say the top 5 racers are in the 4 second range and the bottom half is probably in the mid 5 to low 6 second range..

With my car geared for the 1/4 mile and having this rank amateur (me) tuning it, I've run 5.80's in practice runs.. and yeah, its on the track and not on the streets, but still with a little practice and a little bit of tuning, I could probably make the sled go down the street once or twice.. So I'm confident I'd be somwhere on the list, maybe not quite as high as 6th.. but somewhere..

In fact, I did offer up the Duster to a racer that was invited on the show when the OKC boys were here in Cali... He wrecked his car during test hits and I offered to let him drive the Duster in its place.. Except he had officially stepped down and gave up his spot..

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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

So only two turbo cars in top 5

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IF you were to enter into their top 10 list... Where do you think you would be ranked? You can use your street or race car...

Just to get this rolling.. I think I would slide in to about the #6 position with my N/A big tire Duster..

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I have a good guess where you would end up if you leaned on your setup. But we all know the street is the great equalizer. It would be a big advantage those boys would have with there steamrollers against your TT5 tires.

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1. Monza nitrous
2. Daddy Dave nitrous
3. Chief twin turbo
4. Shawn twin turbo
5. Doc nitrous
6. Derick nitrous
7. Andarcade nitrous( has switched to turbos but hasn't raced yet as turbo)
8. Kamikaze nitrous
9. Boosted turbo
10. Dominator nitrous

So only two turbo cars in top 5

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IF you were to enter into their top 10 list... Where do you think you would be ranked? You can use your street or race car...

Just to get this rolling.. I think I would slide in to about the #6 position with my N/A big tire Duster..

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So you think you can beat a tube chassis dart with a 632 on two nitrous kits with a na car? That's just the gate keeper.

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I have a good guess where you would end up if you leaned on your setup. But we all know the street is the great equalizer. It would be a big advantage those boys would have with there steamrollers against your TT5 tires.

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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!

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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!

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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.

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This picture was taken the next day, and you can clearly see the dragstrip and dirt track grandstands in the far left of the picture.

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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!

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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!

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I always find this type stuff humorous.......so why, would they bring their cars, which are setup for the STREET to a heads up event, prepped for radials.......why would they do that. They KNOW they would get their asses handed to them and they will tell you that..............BUT, you take your RACE car out there and run them in THEIR environment, you are likely to get humbled VERY quickly. What a car runs on the track, means very little as to what it will do on a public street, whether it has some rubber on it or not.

And when I said above that 6 of the cars on the list will run sub 5 sec ETs.........that is NOT what they run at the TRACK. That is what they run ON THE STREET, when they make good clean passes. And the reason I say this, is because I KNOW this. I have seen the data. Not rocket science to lay a street graph, on top of a race track graph, where you know the ET it ran and compare the data.

These guys are NOT setup for track racing. The cars have lots of bite, lots of rear percentage and loose suspension. NONE of which is condusive to stellar ETs on a prepped track..........but does it work on the street.........yes it does. Long list of guys who think it's easy and are going to go out there and show the "Outlaws" what's what. Funny thing is........it hasn't happened yet.

Jeff Lutz told me face to face, that when he went out there, he left the same tune in the 57 that had just gone 6.80s at 215 in Baytown and that it made a surprisingly clean pass down the street. The Sonoma marched away from him on the street..........That's pretty fast.

Bottom line, you think you got what it takes to "show them"........all you have to do......is go do it

Chads Buick has a 5.0 bore space motor. We run 4 teens on radials. I could put Doc's motor in our car and probably go 4.20s-.30s as his stuff is not quite as good as ours. Now, am I saying Doc's car should go that fast at the track if properly setup.......maybe, if it was setup right and at the same weight as us......but it's NOT and it WON'T. What I AM saying though, is we take Chad's Buick out there, even with 10.5 slicks on it and we are going to have a BAD day on the street..........On BIG tires, might be a different story, but that's a moot point, because that is not what we have

Monte Is the street racing all they do,they do not run any other kind of racing? Question only I was just wondering if they put that much $$$ in there cars just to do there Out-Law Street Racing.There is nothing wrong with it I sure you know as well as I do there are a lot of Grudge Race cars with just as much $$$ tied up in them. I like the show and will either tape it are watch it there entire season!

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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.

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This is 100% wrong. The Chicago race took place on Schweitzer Rd, the road that runs between Route 66 raceway and Chicagoland Speedway, just south of Joliet IL.

This picture was taken the next day, and you can clearly see the dragstrip and dirt track grandstands in the far left of the picture.

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Shawn admitted on Yellowbullet (last year) to a 7.14 1/4 mile run on a prepped strip with the Murder Nova AFTER clicking it off at the 1/8th mile...

Nope, not fast at all!

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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.

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This is 100% wrong. The Chicago race took place on Schweitzer Rd, the road that runs between Route 66 raceway and Chicagoland Speedway, just south of Joliet IL.

This picture was taken the next day, and you can clearly see the dragstrip and dirt track grandstands in the far left of the picture.

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Yeah, that is the road Dave referred to as a pos. Funny how any time he gets beat it's the roads fault.

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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.

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This is 100% wrong. The Chicago race took place on Schweitzer Rd, the road that runs between Route 66 raceway and Chicagoland Speedway, just south of Joliet IL.

This picture was taken the next day, and you can clearly see the dragstrip and dirt track grandstands in the far left of the picture.

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Yeah, that is the road Dave referred to as a pos. Funny how any time he gets beat it's the roads fault.

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if you take a look at that road you will see one lane heavily prepped and the other just a burnout. not to mention the rain. I wouldn't have even cranked up in the rain. thats crazy.

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Shawn admitted on Yellowbullet (last year) to a 7.14 1/4 mile run on a prepped strip with the Murder Nova AFTER clicking it off at the 1/8th mile...

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with a 540 and a f-2?? I doubt it was clicked off

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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.

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This is 100% wrong. The Chicago race took place on Schweitzer Rd, the road that runs between Route 66 raceway and Chicagoland Speedway, just south of Joliet IL.

This picture was taken the next day, and you can clearly see the dragstrip and dirt track grandstands in the far left of the picture.

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Yeah, that is the road Dave referred to as a pos. Funny how any time he gets beat it's the roads fault.

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if you take a look at that road you will see one lane heavily prepped and the other just a burnout. not to mention the rain. I wouldn't have even cranked up in the rain. thats crazy.

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so tell me what lane is heavily prepped? and also it wasn't raining on the real race evidently they edited the show to make it look like it was raining when they raced.

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Well since we're talking trailered-in "street" cars, my guess is anyone's mid 8-second track car would fit in nicely. And that could include a fair number of posters here, I assume..

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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.

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This is 100% wrong. The Chicago race took place on Schweitzer Rd, the road that runs between Route 66 raceway and Chicagoland Speedway, just south of Joliet IL.

This picture was taken the next day, and you can clearly see the dragstrip and dirt track grandstands in the far left of the picture.

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Yeah, that is the road Dave referred to as a pos. Funny how any time he gets beat it's the roads fault.

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if you take a look at that road you will see one lane heavily prepped and the other just a burnout. not to mention the rain. I wouldn't have even cranked up in the rain. thats crazy.

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so tell me what lane is heavily prepped? and also it wasn't raining on the real race evidently they edited the show to make it look like it was raining when they raced.

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I would think you could see the rubber on the left lane from dragging and spray? are you blind? did you watch the show?

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they were not offered to prep anything that I seen. each driver could prep his own lane they broke out a spray rig with drag tires and prepped the whole lane all the way down for a long time. okc boys did the burnout and that was it. they were unaware they were going to do that. and they were offered a rematch and it was excepted. then tuff backed out like a wuss. I know you have a hard on for them because they wont let you race but get over it.and the was rain on the windshield before the pass, don't know if it was fake or not.

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I bet the slowest car on the list might go 5.2-5.0 in the 1/8 on a bad pass.

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Really? You honestly think Kamakaze's El Camino is flirting with the 7 second mark? Or Derick.. or Varley.. Or Farmtruck or Andradi (sp)

(Maybe Chucks Mustang now that he's running a twin turbo set up.. )

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so tell me what lane is heavily prepped? and also it wasn't raining on the real race evidently they edited the show to make it look like it was raining when they raced.

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so tell me what lane is heavily prepped? and also it wasn't raining on the real race evidently they edited the show to make it look like it was raining when they raced.

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I'm actually a little surprised looking at that photo. Lots of people were yammering on about how tuff's lane was prepped all the way to the 660'. There is more rubber down on his side for sure, but it honestly doesn't look like the vht extends out much farther than where it stops in Dave's lane. Maybe another 100'?

I really hope they run each other again. Tuff does come across as a douchenozzle sometimes but he played the game and won.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv7dYZrHa9I