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lets talk about sliders versus shackles #172530 12/21/08 07:21 PM 12/21/08 07:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here
fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio	I am currently changing springs on the rear of my car and was considering going to sliders instead of the old shackles.Are they really that much better? Gus 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172531 12/21/08 07:44 PM 12/21/08 07:44 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 902 Mopar Lane,Mississippi 6 67HEMI super stock
67HEMI super stock 6 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 902 Mopar Lane,Mississippi	I put them on mine when I moved the springs into the frame rails. It allows it to sit 1/2 to 3/4" lower in the rear which is what I wanted. Only difference I noticed is on the street they pop at times when I turn sharp but I have a Dana with a spool. If you install them make sure to have the slide bolt set 3/4 of the way to the rear with the weight of the car on them or they will bottom out during the launch as the spring arches. '33 Plymouth 5 Window Coupe Blown Aluminum HEMI w/bolt ons (under construction) '69 Chrysler 300 Convertible 375 HP 440 '71 Plymouth Duster 360 W/EFI (Wife's Ride) '12 Ram MegaCab Dually 6.7 Cummins

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: 67HEMI] #172532 12/21/08 08:19 PM 12/21/08 08:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here
fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio	Yeah thats the project I am doing(moving the springs in) and I had to do something with the rear half.I was concerned about the amount of travel because I still drive my car to the track.I was looking at the ones Mancini sells where did you get yours? Gus 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172533 12/23/08 10:26 AM 12/23/08 10:26 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky S sdaurity pro stock
sdaurity pro stock S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky	Anybody else? I have been thinking about switching to them also One day I will have something cool here.

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: sdaurity] #172534 12/23/08 12:27 PM 12/23/08 12:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego formula S mopar
formula S mopar Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego	I'm not sure how long the slot is in these sliders are, but if they ever bottom out the slot during chassis rise, the spring becomes solid and will unload the rear tire, much like having rear shocks that are to short

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: formula S] #172535 12/23/08 12:48 PM 12/23/08 12:48 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: I'm not sure how long the slot is in these sliders are, but if they ever bottom out the slot during chassis rise, the spring becomes solid and will unload the rear tire, much like having rear shocks that are to short This is true but this is also where good shocks come in to play. The reason I dont care for sliders is that if they get dirt and crap into them they can and will bind up throwing the chassis off

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: formula S] #172536 12/23/08 07:28 PM 12/23/08 07:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here
fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio	Quote: I'm not sure how long the slot is in these sliders are, but if they ever bottom out the slot during chassis rise, the spring becomes solid and will unload the rear tire, much like having rear shocks that are to short Thats the one point that has me questioning my decision.I am also looking at the Afco single adjustable shocks with with the new high velocity rebound valving. Gus 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172537 12/23/08 08:05 PM 12/23/08 08:05 PM
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Voluster mopar Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 550 Ma	I have them in my car Put them in this year Didn't notice any difference other then lowering the car in the rear

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172538 12/23/08 10:03 PM 12/23/08 10:03 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 902 Mopar Lane,Mississippi 6 67HEMI super stock
67HEMI super stock 6 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 902 Mopar Lane,Mississippi	I got mine from summit. They are Afco's. I have monoleaf cal trac springs,cal-trac bars,single adjustable rancho shocks. Best 60 ft 1.47 on drag radials @ 3850 lbs. '33 Plymouth 5 Window Coupe Blown Aluminum HEMI w/bolt ons (under construction) '69 Chrysler 300 Convertible 375 HP 440 '71 Plymouth Duster 360 W/EFI (Wife's Ride) '12 Ram MegaCab Dually 6.7 Cummins

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: formula S] #172539 12/23/08 10:07 PM 12/23/08 10:07 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 902 Mopar Lane,Mississippi 6 67HEMI super stock
67HEMI super stock 6 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 902 Mopar Lane,Mississippi	Quote: I'm not sure how long the slot is in these sliders are, but if they ever bottom out the slot during chassis rise, the spring becomes solid and will unload the rear tire, much like having rear shocks that are to short The slot is around 4 inches,maybe longer, I think. Mine have never bottomed out on compression or rise. '33 Plymouth 5 Window Coupe Blown Aluminum HEMI w/bolt ons (under construction) '69 Chrysler 300 Convertible 375 HP 440 '71 Plymouth Duster 360 W/EFI (Wife's Ride) '12 Ram MegaCab Dually 6.7 Cummins

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172540 12/23/08 10:07 PM 12/23/08 10:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego formula S mopar
formula S mopar Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego	Quote: Quote: I'm not sure how long the slot is in these sliders are, but if they ever bottom out the slot during chassis rise, the spring becomes solid and will unload the rear tire, much like having rear shocks that are to short Thats the one point that has me questioning my decision.I am also looking at the Afco single adjustable shocks with with the new high velocity rebound valving. Gus Shackles work great I see these sliders as a gimmick, something different, save your money. BTW what suspension are you running?

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172541 12/24/08 12:16 AM 12/24/08 12:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Sliders may help in some combos, and are high techno looking. But shackles really work just fine, IMO and are also better in some/Most combos. But there are the exceptions! Whats your combo needing IYO, mike

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: formula S] #172542 12/24/08 04:51 PM 12/24/08 04:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here
fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio	My current setup is 456-457 SS springs,Procomp truck shocks and snubber.I had Cal-Tracs and Monoleafs but they went flat just like the 3400 springs did.I really liked the way the Cal-Tracs hooked and launched but for a street strip car they were not the solution.I now have a pair of 454-455 3800# springs to install and I was going to install them with "good" Afco adjustable shocks and move them inboard to the framerails.This is the reason for the sliders instead of installing upper spring mounts in the frame. Gus 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172543 12/25/08 09:44 AM 12/25/08 09:44 AM
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fbernard mopar Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 403 30 miles west of EuroDisney	Quote: I was looking at the ones Mancini sells where did you get yours? Gus I believe AFCO makes them : http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/leaf.shtml Take a look at speedway motors. There's both a standard and a heavy duty part : http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Heavy-Duty-Leaf-Spring-Sliders,5817.html http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Leaf-Spring-Sliders,2151.html

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: fourgearsavoy] #172544 12/25/08 11:14 AM 12/25/08 11:14 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 622 ct jkgtx mopar
jkgtx mopar Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 622 ct	I used the afco sliders for two years average 60ft 1.52 I liked them because it lowered the car with the ss springs.wasnt very happy with the cars being consistant,made my own 4 link with ladderbar brackets and coilovers 1.46 60ft with no other changes [b] [color:"red"] 67 GTX 440 twin turbo efi 10.72 128 3900lb 3.55

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: jkgtx] #172545 12/25/08 12:04 PM 12/25/08 12:04 PM
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joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	The sliders were designed for circle track cars so I really dont see how they are a gimmick The vid below is from norwalk and this guy swears by them, as do the guys from AFCO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOLyjoARD...=1&index=81 IMO

Re: lets talk about sliders versus shackles [Re: joshking440] #172546 12/25/08 11:00 PM 12/25/08 11:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here
fourgearsavoy OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,551 Rittman Ohio	Well I think I will buy a pair of the HD units from Speedway and build my own brackets with 2 extra inches of travel in the slots.Too bad I will have to wait sooo long to see if they work.Its going to be one of those years where everything is different except the transmission and rear end. Gus 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

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