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408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 01:35 PM
12/21/08 01:35 PM
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cudadan
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i know its probably been poseted before i just cant find it. whats your combo's? pump gas ONLY!! what kinda hp you running? preferably Eddy head combos. cost to build everything? i just need to know what im in for if i do go this route. PM if ya want,
thx
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 05:49 PM
12/21/08 05:49 PM
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dartman366
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mine's not a pump gas motor, so that leaves me out,,but here's a  for ya' 
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 05:58 PM
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mine's not a pump gas motor, so that leaves me out,,but here's a for ya'
lol thx for the bump
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 06:30 PM
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Cast MP crank, internally balanced,scat h beams, ross pistons, cometic gaskets, 11:1 comp, first set of ported eddies from Hughes, then cleaned up by Ryan with big valves, msd digital E curve, pro magnum rockers, custom hydraulic roller from Scott Brown, perf RPM intake, 770 carb. 'm not a drag racer, but this makes 475-485 hp all day long.
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12/21/08 07:52 PM
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Finally a HUSKER again
Moparnut426
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Mine is in the works, but here it is. Pump gas Diamond 10.7:1, K1 crank, Childs and alberts steel track master rods, B1BA heads, bottom end hughes girdle, Hydro roller cam with 558 lift, 304 duration cam. Hopefully it will run ok as a street thumper. Dram is providing the crank, and pistons.
It should run ok!
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 08:25 PM
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Cast MP crank, internally balanced,scat h beams, ross pistons, cometic gaskets, 11:1 comp, first set of ported eddies from Hughes, then cleaned up by Ryan with big valves, msd digital E curve, pro magnum rockers, custom hydraulic roller from Scott Brown, perf RPM intake, 770 carb. 'm not a drag racer, but this makes 475-485 hp all day long.
sounds great, are you affraid of running that HP close to 500 with a cast crank?
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 08:29 PM
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My motor is not together yet but heres what I have. It will be a 11.0-1 pump gas 408 with K-1 4" steel crank, Comp Star 6.125" H beam rods, Diamond dish pistons, Hughes flat solid 260/264 @ .050 with .626/.633 lift cam and EDM lifters, Milodon pan, cloyes true roller timing set, Perfect Circle high volume oil pump. I'm going to have around +/-$3000 in the short block counting the machine work. A member here gave a smokin' deal on the pan, pick up and timing set, all new. The top end will come off my 340 with the exception of the intake. I got a Victor 340 off the bag for $70 shipped. It will go on my Curtis Boggs ported Edelbrock heads with Hughes 1.6 roller rockers. I also bought new Hedman 1 7/8" headers to replace my TTIs, they'll be in the $1000 range counting the coatings. To me this not a cheap motor, but I'm not wealthy by any means, this is what I work overtime for. If I had stroked my 340 to begin with it would've only cost around $1000 more when I built it, oh well now I'll have a spare short block. I'm hoping from around 525 hp out of the new motor  .
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Re: 408 guys, combos
[Re: cudadan]
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12/21/08 08:47 PM
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Long Island, NY USA
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Cast MP crank, internally balanced,scat h beams, ross pistons, cometic gaskets, 11:1 comp, first set of ported eddies from Hughes, then cleaned up by Ryan with big valves, msd digital E curve, pro magnum rockers, custom hydraulic roller from Scott Brown, perf RPM intake, 770 carb. 'm not a drag racer, but this makes 475-485 hp all day long.
sounds great, are you affraid of running that HP close to 500 with a cast crank?
This has been together for 5+ years already. The crank I got from my local dealer was a nicely made piece, not sure who's it was as it was real new at the time. I routinely bounce this thing off the rev limiter, (6250), so who knows....I don't even have a real pressure gage anymore, just a 15lb Autometer sender working the orig light on the dash. I don't have a tach anymore either, just the 6K A&A governer weight in the trans, works like a charm with the factory kickdown linkage. Just point and shoot.
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 09:27 PM
12/21/08 09:27 PM
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Coronado, CA
go-fish
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Forged K1 crank and H beam rods, custom forged Diamond pistons, Hughes ported Eddies, Super Victor single plane intake, hydraulic roller lifters and rockers, MSD distributer and 6AL box, Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump and regulator, D1-SC ProCharger, blow through Holley 750 and this cam from Hughes http://www.hughesengines.com/partDetail.asp?partID=11393&eTypeID=1Dyno'ed at 650 on Southland performances engine dyno but it wanted to detonate so we bumped the timing down and settled at 589 or something. I got the sheets around here somewhere. I remember the water injection wasn't working right and it might have been alright like it was but I wanted it to work if the water injection failed on the road and I didn't have it. It comes on now at 4 lbs. and is working. It doesnt feel like it lost alot after I got it in the car and hooked up the water pump and alternator. The trans was beefed up at MMR to handle more torque than out of the box but I'm still shy about it. I aint telling what I got in it. Honestly, I lost track after 15K.
70 'cuda: ProCharged 408, Tremec 5 speed, S60,triangulated 4 link, Hydroboost and Wilwoods
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 09:47 PM
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Stratford nj
cudadan
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Cast MP crank, internally balanced,scat h beams, ross pistons, cometic gaskets, 11:1 comp, first set of ported eddies from Hughes, then cleaned up by Ryan with big valves, msd digital E curve, pro magnum rockers, custom hydraulic roller from Scott Brown, perf RPM intake, 770 carb. 'm not a drag racer, but this makes 475-485 hp all day long.
sounds great, are you affraid of running that HP close to 500 with a cast crank?
This has been together for 5+ years already. The crank I got from my local dealer was a nicely made piece, not sure who's it was as it was real new at the time. I routinely bounce this thing off the rev limiter, (6250), so who knows....I don't even have a real pressure gage anymore, just a 15lb Autometer sender working the orig light on the dash. I don't have a tach anymore either, just the 6K A&A governer weight in the trans, works like a charm with the factory kickdown linkage. Just point and shoot.
that sounds like a great street car ya got there, mine will hit the track maybe 3 times or so a month, so im a little affraid going with the cast crank, right now i spin my 360 to 6400 and thats it
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 09:49 PM
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Forged K1 crank and H beam rods, custom forged Diamond pistons, Hughes ported Eddies, Super Victor single plane intake, hydraulic roller lifters and rockers, MSD distributer and 6AL box, Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump and regulator, D1-SC ProCharger, blow through Holley 750 and this intake from Hughes
http://www.hughesengines.com/partDetail.asp?partID=11393&eTypeID=1
Dyno'ed at 650 on Southland performances engine dyno but it wanted to detonate so we bumped the timing down and settled at 589 or something. I got the sheets around here somewhere. I remember the water injection wasn't working right and it might have been alright like it was but I wanted it to work if the water injection failed on the road and I didn't have it. It comes on now at 4 lbs. and is working.
It doesnt feel like it lost alot after I got it in the car and hooked up the water pump and alternator.
The trans was beefed up at MMR to handle more torque than out of the box but I'm still shy about it.
I aint telling what I got in it. Honestly, I lost track after 15K.
WOW that thing sounds bad A$$ for sure, this link didnt work for me though, i think i'd be happy around 500 hp, not sure what my 360 has for HP now but it does move for what little i got into it,, whats a good HP chart?
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Re: 408 guys, combos
[Re: cudadan]
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12/21/08 10:14 PM
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oregon
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My old car, a 70 dart, with my uncles pump gas motor. 408ci. Stock indy edelbrocks, 10.3 comp, cast crank, 557mp cam, air gap intake, 750dp, tti headers. It weighed 3200 without me in it. Not sure about hp, it went 10.79@122.80 best and low 10.80s consistently. It is now in his duster street car with a 4speed and he drives it everywhere.
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/21/08 11:30 PM
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cudadan
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My old car, a 70 dart, with my uncles pump gas motor. 408ci. Stock indy edelbrocks, 10.3 comp, cast crank, 557mp cam, air gap intake, 750dp, tti headers. It weighed 3200 without me in it. Not sure about hp, it went [Email]10.79@122.80[/Email] best and low 10.80s consistently. It is now in his duster street car with a 4speed and he drives it everywhere.
wow, even that fast with a cast crank, thats the only thing that scares me with them lol, i would luv for my car to be that fast, sounds like a simple combo too
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Re: 408 guys, combos
[Re: cudadan]
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12/22/08 12:20 AM
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that sounds like a great street car ya got there,
My car is envious of Pete's car.. Up until just recently.. him and I had an almost identical motor, except he has now tamed his down a tad with hydraulic rollers.. (which I might do also)
Anyways... here is my build
4" cast stroker crank
HV oil pump
Kevko 6 qt pan with windage tray
Callie main and rod bearings with that friction reducing stuff..
KB forged step pistons 22.5 CC
Scat H-beams
Eddy heads ported by Ryan.. also shaved to obtain a chamber volume of 57cc.. which makes compression ratio 10.9:1
Ryan flow tested the heads at 293/int and 230/exhaust
Custom Ground Comp Cam 256/262 @ .050" Duration
108 LSA
.635"/.632" With Crane gold 1.5 roller rockers
Comp roller lifters
MSD billet dist.
MSD 6A ignition box
Super Victor port matched (the intake was also cut to line up with the shaved Eddys)
Bigs Holley 750
The car weighs in at 3180 + driver and has gone as fast as 11.4 @ 116
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/22/08 12:28 AM
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Well, when my brothers engine had bone stock unported Edelbrock heads and a old school Mopar .557 mechanical cam it made 513 horsepower on a DTS dyno with pump gas and 1 3/4 headers. It was only 394" using a 3.79" stroke crank. We also used a Mopar single plane M1 manifold. Our carb was pretty trick though. It made more power than ANY of the trick carbs that our Dyno shop had on tap. They were pretty amazed. We have PC Carbs in Ontario California do our carbs.
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10.53 @ 125mph. 1.37 60 foot. Caltracs and Monoleafs, AFCO shocks.
Heads by INDIO MOTOR MACHINE; IMM.
CP Pistons, PC Carbs.
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/22/08 07:42 AM
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Coronado, CA
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PC Carb built my blow through Holley. They did a wonderful job. Right out of the box it needed no tuning on or anything. Went right on the engine on the dyno. The shop said they were really impressed with it too.
70 'cuda: ProCharged 408, Tremec 5 speed, S60,triangulated 4 link, Hydroboost and Wilwoods
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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12/22/08 09:14 AM
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Greenville, SC
bad360rt
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Mine wasn't cheap, but it's a pump gas setup 425ci (4.060x4.10) R3 block (non-siamese) W5 heads (320in/220ex) 262/270 .602/.585 108 hyd roller 1.5in/1.65ex T&Ds Indy 360-3R intake (EFI'd) 11.2:1 cr CSR electric wp Custom 7qt oilpan Built by RyanJ, it dyno'd 565hp 525tq with a carb and 1 7/8" headers. Now it's EFI'd with 1 7/8"-2" custom stainless headers, 3.5" collectors w/ 3.5" dynomax ultraflo's. It's taking me forever to get it finished, hoping to have it running and tuned on a chassis dyno here in the next month or two. Shooting for low 11's n/a, and 9's on the bottle, 3900lbs race weight.  
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Re: 408 guys, combos
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#172285
12/22/08 10:32 AM
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Canada
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408 340 resto block Callies crank and rods Diamond 12.5's W5's flow around 320 Super Vic intake 1050 dominator Crane roller.....http://www.cranecams.com/?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=698801&lvl=2&prt=5 3200lb car in street trim runs 10.39. Sure there's more in the tank. Good luck
Damn! I dropped my change.............
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