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Who makes a 1965 Plymouth Belvedere AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood. All I found was a flat hood and a scoop seperate??

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I believe you have to get them separately since I have never seen a one piece unit. When no one was considering the AFX scoop, I went ahead and made my own out of aluminum. I believe that there is a fiberglass one made currently. I just don't remember the company and or the distributor.

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Glasstek shows it in there catalog.
Described as:64-65 Mopar Hemi superstock-long scoop(curved back) 33"W X 40"L X 3" tall

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Correct, original AFX cars used the bolt on 64/65 Race Hemi scoops (64 was aluminum, 65 was thin steel, same exact shape and size). Altered (higher) opening hight fiberglass versions came later from the aftermarket.

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Glassteks web site is a train wreck....

Can someone tell me what the difference was between the 64-65 and the 66-67 SS HEMI scoops?


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Correct, original AFX cars used the bolt on 64/65 Race Hemi scoops (64 was aluminum, 65 was thin steel, same exact shape and size). Altered (higher) opening hight fiberglass versions came later from the aftermarket.




Interesting. I thought all Altered wheel base cars used fiberglass hoods along with doors fenders, dash and decklids. So both of these cars came thru with steel hoods? what about the add that shows fiberglass parts?

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I am not sold on the hood being an after thought back in the day.

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Glassteks web site is a train wreck....

Can someone tell me what the difference was between the 64-65 and the 66-67 SS HEMI scoops?




Glasstek only offers the scoop like everyone else.


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I believe you have to get them separately since I have never seen a one piece unit. When no one was considering the AFX scoop, I went ahead and made my own out of aluminum. I believe that there is a fiberglass one made currently. I just don't remember the company and or the distributor.




Hard to beleive it may be only available as seperate peices. I wonder who made the Peddler hood and the S&M hood.


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Sorry, I didn't word that correctly. The original glass hoods and scoops were replicas (size/dimension, etc.) of the original 64/65 metal scoops (like shown in that parts package photo). The altered opening and taller opening scoops you see on a lot of clones and restorations these days are often later aftermarket versions modified for extra height, etc. MANY of the fiberglass companies selling these scoops (as well as 67 Hemi scoops) sell modified versions as compared to the original factory scoops.

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Can someone tell me what the difference was between the 64-65 and the 66-67 SS HEMI scoops?



The basic shape of the scoop is very close. The difference is that the 64/65 scoop has a curved rear edge that follows the rear of the hood/cowl gap (radiused). The 67 is straight across the back. My 64 has a 67 scoop, no ones ever noticed.
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My 64 has a 67 scoop, no ones ever noticed




Or maybe they did and just didn't say anything

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My 64 has a 67 scoop, no ones ever noticed




Or maybe they did and just didn't say anything




Anybody that would try to 'pick' on that car couldn't be taken serious anyway. Car is beautiful.


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My 64 has a 67 scoop, no ones ever noticed




Or maybe they did and just didn't say anything



Close enough for a racecar.
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The altered opening and taller opening scoops you see on a lot of clones and restorations these days are often later aftermarket versions modified for extra height, etc.




What about the pics that show these hoods back in 1965?

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I thought it was going to simple to locate one of these hoods from the aftermarket world.

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They list an AFX scoop. I think that is like the old scoops that were taller in the front than the regular Hemi scoops. Scott might be confusing those with the BIG BOX scoops people are using in NSS racing now. Ugly [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] things they are. They look like something made on a sheet metal (box) brake.

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Yes. The scoops on the 65 cars above do look correct. It does appear that the AFX scoops had a raised front opening as compared to the original 64/65 Hemi scoops, (and the scoops on the lightweight front end ad with the girl) and that may be what made them somewhat unique in appearance, but they were nothing like the raised garden boxes you see on the NSS cars these days.

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My 64 has a 67 scoop, no ones ever noticed




Or maybe they did and just didn't say anything





They do look almost the same. I mean the 64-65 Hemi scoop compared to the 67 RO/WO scoop. Ron

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At a glance, but side by side they are quite unique, the 67 is noticeably shorter front to back, close to square across the back, and taller all around. The stamped shape in the top is the most noticeable similarity.

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Here's an original 67 Hemi scoop just sitting on a 68 Valiant hood (not bolted down, just a coincidence that it was painted red).

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The 65' Altered wheelbase package cars did come through with fiberglass hoods and scoop, (taller front opening version of the 64-65' Race Hemi scoop) Fiberglass fenders, fiberglass hardtop doors with upper aluminum window channel rails (hacked from existing leftover A865 super stock cars to make a post door look alike) which would retain the one piece side door plexi-glass without vent windows. Fiberglass instrument panel with out a glove box cut out, fiberglass deck lid. plexi glass windshield and such.

The pictures that I have seen have been separate scoop from the hoods. Maybe some teams found it more aero to seal them all together, but I could be wrong.

I've seen in person some AFX type scoops by some companies that frequent on here, but I question their quality and strength in a fast moving AFX car. Do some homework.

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Can someone tell me what the difference was between the 64-65 and the 66-67 SS HEMI scoops?



The basic shape of the scoop is very close. The difference is that the 64/65 scoop has a curved rear edge that follows the rear of the hood/cowl gap (radiused). The 67 is straight across the back. My 64 has a 67 scoop, no ones ever fnoticed.
Doug




Cheers Doug..Thx!


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Here's an original 67 Hemi scoop just sitting on a 68 Valiant hood (not bolted down, just a coincidence that it was painted red).




Thx Scottsmith...Im seriously thinking of doing the same.....and that pic speaks volumes......


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Just went and checked my 64 fiberglas scoop. I was able to pull up in the center and it looked like the pic of the original 65 afx. Might need a support to hold it up there. I was told the original ones where bolted on. I might have to raise mine because of the intake but not a fan of the big box look.

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A company called Smiths Race cars in Texas made some of the early AFX hoods and fenders.The hood and scoops were one piece.If some one could get in touch with Todd Werner who now has the 65 Yankee Peddler the mfg tag was glassed into the inside of the fenders.

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Looking at this ad of the 65 dodge fiberglass(80 pounds) kinda confirms my contention that a 63-65 b-body could be under 3000 pounds. There was another post that was asking that very question and most guys didn't think so. Wanna know? take off all the steel parts pictured then weight the car and add 100 pounds for glass and paint. Would be interesting to see.

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I never thought the hood would be the part that would hold me up.

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Good looking '65 AWB. Can't wait to see it finished. Makes me wish i still had the '65 Coronet 500 hardtop I bought for an AWB project years ago...alas, it was too clean to cut up.

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Ralph. There are a couple of AFX scoops out there in glass. You'll have to mold mend it to your glass hood to be period correct. Like said here Glasstech makes some good stuff and odd at that.
If not, just make your own.

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Ralph. Are you debuting this creation at the match races this coming season?
Wouldn't it be great if the Factories got in on the show and semi-sponsored them again.
The more these AFXer's of all makes (Chrysler GM and FORD) make the cut at the races, the more blood rushes to the fans heads and brings back the fundamentals of a great American tradition.

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Ralph. There are a couple of AFX scoops out there in glass. You'll have to mold mend it to your glass hood to be period correct. Like said here Glasstech makes some good stuff and odd at that.
If not, just make your own.


TXS I've been to Glasstech sight and they seem to have some nice stuff. But everything I have found will need to be molded together. My goal is to get as close to the original as possible.

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Ralph. Are you debuting this creation at the match races this coming season?
Wouldn't it be great if the Factories got in on the show and semi-sponsored them again.
The more these AFXer's of all makes (Chrysler GM and FORD) make the cut at the races, the more blood rushes to the fans heads and brings back the fundamentals of a great American tradition.


Billy is doing such an amazing job on the altering. The plan is to have it back from Billy and off the Sandblaster by February 1st and then to the body shop to lay on the bondo. I don't think I'll be done till 2018.

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Yes he is.

Lots of trimming and measuring. Is this an all steel car?
I've seen a few steel altered cars at the drags lately.
Glasstech seems to have solid stuff from what I've seen at Carlisle.

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Yes it will be all steel except the hood.


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I gather this is going 2 see some street duty being steel and not glass?

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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #2227493
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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #2227551
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Years ago, probably mid 70's , there was a awb car out of Grand Rapids Michigan that came to the track one weekend. only came once never seen it again. That car had a bubble windshield in it. Anyone ever seen a bubble windshield in these cars before?


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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #2227552
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The Plan is to go out and do some Match Bash Racing. There are a good amount of these cars out there. Time to get them together and put on some exhibition races.


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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #2227568
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I'm down, but ever so slightly altered to be detected or acknowledged. Hope to make some of the events.

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Bubbles were used on some of the FX 2% percent cars.

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I'm down, but ever so slightly altered to be detected or acknowledged. Hope to make some of the events.


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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #2227601
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I'm all there 100 % with a 2%.

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Ralph,if your looking for a complete hood (scoop bonded to hood) Glasstek will do it in either glass or carbon fiber. There is a labor charge for bonding it. I will post a picture of the hood they did for my dart.




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Nice job on that hood.

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Your hood look amazing. I called glass tech and they did offer the service of bonding both pieces. TXS for the pics


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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2230618
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Bubbles were used on some of the FX 2% percent cars.




2% ??? never heard of them. 2% of what?


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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: rowin4] #2230681
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2% wheelbase alteration. Usually 3-5 inches forward. No vent windows and countless aluminum trick parts throughout.
Here's the Ramcharger 2% in action. It still has the vent windows in place. Only four post cars made in 64' and four hardtop cars made in 65'

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Here's a clearer mug shot of the suspect. look at the wheel placements. Note the aluminum doors with all plexi-glass window without vent wings.

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Here's a clearer look at the 2% 65' Hardtop specimen.
These and the prior 64'2% were the predecessors to the more commonly known 10/15 Altered AFX cars of yore.

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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #2230733
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Nice AWB project! Sorry for the hi-jack but since you guys are talking early B-Body Hoods. Where is the current "go to" place for 64 Dodge pin on fiberglass hoods? Seems all that make them are at the other end of the country. Shipping will likely be almost what the hood cost so just want to minimize any issues. Looks like glastek makes them for everything else (including 1961 Plymouths??)but NOT a 64 B-Body Dodge shruggy I bought my scoop a few years a go from Fiberglass+ in Texas and should have bought a hood then but, they retired. Too bad I don't need one for a Nova as I think 7-11 stocks them right next to the Slurpee machine biggrin

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Re: 1965 Plymouth AFX Fiberglass Race Hemi Hood ?? [Re: MoParFish] #2230837
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Yeah, these cars are a awkward bunch indeed, especially when they are a one year only body design. Some parts interchange and others do not. The doors are the same and fiberglass units are available from????????Glassman IRIC, They make a lot of AFX stuff. Not sure on the quality though, but yes, he's out here in the East.
A cat by the name of Kulasa in Detroit will chemically mill your original hood to be light, but maybe not as light as glass before becoming too flimsy. Also a ways away as far as shipping.
Funny enough, Chrysler used to get all their cars/parts dipped in your neck of the woods back in the day before the EPA ended all that fuzz.

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