Re: A body engine swap discovery
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im not an a body guy but try mocking it up complete with a d shaft you may find offset or driveline angles are wrong! also get out your trusty torpedo level and see if that blocks tilted to the side at all...but anything is possible after all i see people selling big block b and e body k frames all the time so you can switch from a small block!!!
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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08/17/05 10:06 AM
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BTT pretty interesting.....
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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I don't understand the fascination with trying to use the wrong K frame. They aren't that hard to find.
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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08/17/05 01:44 PM
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First and foremost, the allure is to use the stuff you already have vs. finding a different K member and swapping it in. Not everybody wants to jack around with swapping a K if they don't have to. Makes me wonder if that's how they used to put a SB in a D100 since they came with /6's and SB's. Or do pickups use different K's for /6 7 V8?
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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08/17/05 01:55 PM
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I've seen a couple of cars done like that and it works. I agree with 349 MagnumRT too, its about using what you have not how much you can spend. Its ALOT cheaper to find a mount that will work than it is to find and hang the correct k-frame. I found out a month or 2 ago that with the 70's style 318 brackets you can use the rubbers from an 88 Supra and it will drop into a 64/65/66 a-body perfect. Didnt cost me a penny to put it in my buddies Dart because I have a blown up Supra engine in the shop and looked at the mounts and . Cheap new discoveries are awesome when they work. Tim
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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08/18/05 08:18 AM
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using toyota parts on a dodge? that's just wrong lol.
My old Dodge became a Mercedes a few years ago.
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 08:47 AM
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Trucks have multiple holes in the crossmember..No K frame per se. It looks like it might be "off a hair as far as right to left, but really, stick a driveshaft in, and take a few pics showing from the K frame back. Is the oil pan inplace? Steering linkage too? Looks like it is..How about heads and headers or manifolds? Getting the bare block in is easy..it's getting it all to work that gets a little tougher. Cool idea tho. It took me 2 cuts and 2 welds to make big block mounts out of the factory /6 mounts that used factory rubbers and mounted a 383 to a /6 K frame in a Swinger some years back. With the 2bbl exh logs on it and power steering. I was bet I couldnt do it with not buying any parts. I won $50, and had one whale of a burnout machine...lol.
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 09:36 AM
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Innovation is a good thing, but not if it leads to hassles in everything else you put on the car. I hope that works for you, but I would mock up the entire driveline. I have a 72 duster that I bought with the 340 4 spd already in it. The previous owner liked to be "innovative" and used a B-body clutch fork and pivot. Needless to say it didn't line up so he torched the pushrod and bent it to get it to work. I found out this was done on the side of the street when it snapped. Just one example of what I have to go back and fix right after his "innovative" ways of doing it the first time.
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 12:35 PM
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This Post needs to be "IN THE BEST OF" Pages GOOD JOB MAN
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 01:20 PM
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Can anybody think of why this wouldn't work with a 360 also?
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 02:26 PM
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I just picked up a 71 Duster with /6 k-frame and I also pulled a 318 from a 78 Dodge truck with the mounts. Would be very interested if this works also.
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 04:09 PM
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I always thought you used the truck mount on the drivers side on a /6 K frame. Thats the way my 72 Dart was (I didnt put it together). I broke the mount and almost never figured out what I needed. Tim
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 04:21 PM
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It worked! the engine and trans are in, I finished up late so I did not get any pics, but in a day or two I will post several pics.
Finally some one who is ready to improvise and to try something with out having to order everything ready made. Nice to see some one else that is willing to do a little homework and save a few bucks. I posted a post the other day on /6 to V8 conversions that the right mount is right and it is only the left mount that needs to be reworked.
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 07:27 PM
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I have done the '67-'72 slant six k-frame to 340/360 engine since the 80's and it does work! The 340 motor mount bracket pre-'73 A body driver side with a '72-'78 small block 1/2 ton passenger side truck engine mount bracket. Even the truck small block mount is the same as the '67-'72 A body and the slant six k-frame driver side perch is identical to the V-8.
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 08:52 PM
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I would chime in on how that trick has worked well for me too--but right now I am busy counting how many of those mounts I have to list and sell.Thanks!!
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Re: A body engine swap discovery
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02/28/06 10:16 PM
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Hey Guys sorry I didnt get to this sooner, but yes it did work I dropped a 340 with headers and a 727 and I ran the car down the strip, It worked great for me. I then did the same swap using a 318 with headers and a 904 with excellent results. So start hitting the junkyards for the truck mounts!
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