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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: RV2] #17115
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It worked! the engine and trans are in, I finished up late so I did not get any pics, but in a day or two I will post several pics.


RV2, how did this work out for you??


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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: BrianT] #17116
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That looks like the way my 340 is mounted. It was originally a /6, and a previous owner swapped in a 340. I wondered if it was a Shumaker mount or what, but it looks very similar to what you have there.




Schumaker mounts do look a lot like that, except IIRC the steel mount parts have a hole cut in them. We've got a set on our Duster.


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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: B_Body_Bob] #17117
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Trucks have multiple holes in the crossmember..No K frame per se. It looks like it might be "off a hair as far as right to left, but really, stick a driveshaft in, and take a few pics showing from the K frame back. Is the oil pan inplace? Steering linkage too? Looks like it is..How about heads and headers or manifolds? Getting the bare block in is easy..it's getting it all to work that gets a little tougher. Cool idea tho. It took me 2 cuts and 2 welds to make big block mounts out of the factory /6 mounts that used factory rubbers and mounted a 383 to a /6 K frame in a Swinger some years back. With the 2bbl exh logs on it and power steering. I was bet I couldnt do it with not buying any parts. I won $50, and had one whale of a burnout machine...lol.


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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: moper] #17118
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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: POZEST] #17119
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Innovation is a good thing, but not if it leads to hassles in everything else you put on the car. I hope that works for you, but I would mock up the entire driveline. I have a 72 duster that I bought with the 340 4 spd already in it. The previous owner liked to be "innovative" and used a B-body clutch fork and pivot. Needless to say it didn't line up so he torched the pushrod and bent it to get it to work. I found out this was done on the side of the street when it snapped. Just one example of what I have to go back and fix right after his "innovative" ways of doing it the first time.

Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: RV2] #17120
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Per the TTI web site:
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From the center of the crankshaft to the top of the K-frame the correct distance is 5-1/4". The engine is also offset toward the passernger-side. Measure from the center of the crankshaft to each frame rail. The difference should be 2-1/2".




As long as you can achieve these numbers side to side and up/down, you should be golden. Just eyeballing, it looks about right. I don't know what the front/back angle of the drivetrain is, but that would be the final dimension to check to verify that a totally custom install was right. Using a stock Mopar trans & mount, this wouldn't be a real concern.

Clair

Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: RV2] #17121
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This Post needs to be "IN THE BEST OF" Pages


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Would this work in a b-body also? Hmmmm

Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: SGTFURY62] #17123
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Can anybody think of why this wouldn't work with a 360 also?

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Can anybody think of why this wouldn't work with a 360 also?



yes because the 340/360 share the same mounts.


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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: Ryan_340] #17125
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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: 70dart360] #17126
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Relax guys, this is an old post I revived today. I never heard back that the engine was in and running and everything worked out okay... Thats what I'm hoping to find out.


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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: GO_Fish] #17127
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I'd also like to try this with a 318 swap into my '67 Barracuda with a /6 K. The DS mount is the one that is different between 318s and the 340/360, so in theory, with a 318 DS mount and the truck/van pass mount, it should work, huh? I'm all about saving some coin and I'm not interested in rebuilding my front end because of a K swap. Much easier/cheaper to use what works than having to swap an entire K frame IMHO.

Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #17128
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I am just about to giveaway a set of 69 318 truck mounts, so this interests me too!


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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: Rhinodart] #17129
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I just picked up a 71 Duster with /6 k-frame and I also pulled a 318 from a 78 Dodge truck with the mounts. Would be very interested if this works also.

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RV2 initiated this string. I just PM'd him to see if he'll pick the thread back up with some more details.


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I always thought you used the truck mount on the drivers side on a /6 K frame. Thats the way my 72 Dart was (I didnt put it together). I broke the mount and almost never figured out what I needed.
Tim


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Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: RV2] #17132
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It worked! the engine and trans are in, I finished up late so I did not get any pics, but in a day or two I will post several pics.



Finally some one who is ready to improvise and to try something with out having to order everything ready made. Nice to see some one else that is willing to do a little homework and save a few bucks.
I posted a post the other day on /6 to V8 conversions that the right mount is right and it is only the left mount that needs to be reworked.

Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: MoparforLife] #17133
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I'm doing this conversion right now on my 67 Valiant. A guy over on A body.com did the same thing.
I have the truck mounts from a 85 318, some 68 318 biscuits, and some 72 318 brackets and biscuits.
I was curious too if the driveshaft angle would be o.k.

Re: A body engine swap discovery [Re: RV2] #17134
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I just replaced the /6 with a 318 in a `78 B100 van and the K frame was perfect. I guess we won`t be tossing out any more van/truck mounts and I have some here with the 360 mounts in `em too for the 340/360 swaps. Nice work RV2


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