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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: KillerBee] #1709138
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Regional fluctuations for equipment level and price sure seems to make a big difference. I know most out this way want 4x4, and I guess that was why I got a "great deal" when I bought my 2wd . . . not that I need to sell my truck, but when you get into a new rig with all the right stuff, sure is hard to wonder about keeping the old machine . . . but I do like not having payments or dishing out money for something I already have. Guess my thinking was if I sold off my Magnum RT AWD and my truck, use that $$$ for a NEW 4x4 truck, then I am going from two rigs into one that would do everything the two do.

Thanks for the comments . . . guess it comes down to what I guess I might be able to pull for both vehicles. . . . and like most I have kept both in premo condition, which hopefully helps in resale. . .

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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: KillerBee] #1709139
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I would think my truck should be worth $20k if I sell it myself.






That is what I am looking for. Too bad you are not in Minnesota. Is there any rust hiding under those rear flares? Cat converter?
There is a 58,000 mile '02 2500QCSB 6 speed diesel Ram for $21k locally, but I can't stand the color.

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: Grizzly] #1709140
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It's a bad time to sell with gasoline prices dropping and diesel barely changing. I doubt we'll ever see diesel cheaper than gasoline ever again.

Diesel is well over $1 a gallon more and that's a significant enough difference for people to put buying any diesel (new or used) on "hold".

People in general are not good at saving money so the reality is folks just simply don't have 20 grand in their bank account to buy a mint used truck. Most just barely scrape up enough money to pay the first months' rent on a new one and keep going back to the dealer for another....

I tried selling my Flame Red '02 Cummins 4x4 SLT+ Sport with 15,000 miles and not one single person who called on it had the money. Now, going through the same thing with my '07 Hemi Sport: 9,000 miles on it, no one has any money.

I mean, you can try.........just don't expect it to be gone tomorrow.




Diesel is .60 cents higher than gas here in Florence ky.

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: Challenger 1] #1709141
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I think the reason diesel is so high, is because the rest of the world is burning higher sulfur diesel in there cars and trucks because it get's better mileage than gasoline which is causing a high demand for crude oil. The rest of the world is using a higher sulfur diesel and here we are getting bent over buying ultra low sulfur fuel.

Yes my tow vehicle burns diesel and diesel engines are so nice, the older ones and not the newer ones.

And like said above I don't believe diesel will ever be cheaper than gasoline.

So I would think? that diesel trucks are losing there value and popularity? It may take a few more years for it to sink in? I know hard to believe, I think the future is in natural gas. I already know of several fleets of trucks around here that are operating on natural gas.

I have a diesel fuel bulk plant and deliver thousands of gallons of it everyday.

My new last year 3/4 ton pickup truck is gasoline. And I am thankful that it is every time I fill up. Diesel around here is $1.20 more than 87 gasoline. Even I can't swallow that.

I use my pickup to pull trailers(but not big enclosed trailers) and there's plenty of power in my new truck to do the job. Way more power than my 20 year old gasoline 454 had and I pulled enclosed trailers with it.

My new f-250 has more torque than our 5.7 hemi has. So I'm driving a ford now, it's a nice truck and rides better and quieter than our 2007 300. That's saying a lot.




You need to come across the river and see diesel prices, .6o cents more than gas

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: KillerBee] #1709142
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You should be able to get $20k or close. The things that hurt your truck is the mileage and automatic.
I plan on keeping my truck the rest of my life. My wife supports that decision. She would like to have her own.

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: KillerBee] #1709143
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My wife loves my 05 Cummins in the winter. I feel pretty good about her driving it as well. Driver's around here are pretty bad and if they want to tangle with her in the Dodge they're going to lose.

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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: gss] #1709144
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I would think my truck should be worth $20k if I sell it myself.



That is what I am looking for. Too bad you are not in Minnesota. Is there any rust hiding under those rear flares? Cat converter?
There is a 58,000 mile '02 2500QCSB 6 speed diesel Ram for $21k locally, but I can't stand the color.




I bought my truck out of North Carolina about 8 years ago.

I put the flares on when I bought it and haven't had them off in years, I doubt there's any rust under them.

I put the Mopar rear wheel wheel liners on the truck when I brought it to Ohio, http://www.rumblebee.org/viewtopic.php?p=159162&sid=4f43303a673bdbf73937fb8356d5b53b



These keep the nasty winter sludge and salt form getting behind the rear bed sides and off the rear frame rails.

The only rust on the truck is on the rear painted sport bumper, I plan to replace it with a new one that will be Rhino-lined body color.

The bed has had a tonneau cover since new and has a bedrug liner inside, it's like new.


My Ram is an early 2004 HO (305hp 555torque) no cats or emissions.

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1709145
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There's a 2006 Ram 2500 4x4 mega cab Cummins automatic w/ 109k miles on it for sale locally that I want bad. They're asking 30k for it.

Even the older 12v & 24v trucks are bringing good money...as long as they're quad cab and 4x4.





Shoot, that means I could sell mine for a profit after driving it for 6 months!

Like I mentioned above, I paid $30k out the door for mine, had 87k miles, 2006 Megacab, Auto 4x4. today it has 100,500 miles on it.


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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: KillerBee] #1709146
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My Ram is an early 2004 HO (305hp 555torque) no cats or emissions.




I'd be keeping that one

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: gss] #1709147
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I had an '02 CTD HO 6 speed 2WD. It was totaled by State Farm even though the air bags did not go off when I crushed an F150. I bought it back and it sat in my driveway until the first guy that saw it bought it for my asking price with cash. He drove it onto his trailer, put it back together and loves it. I should have kept it, but my wife could not drive it before (she is short) and I got a new knee from the accident so I couldn't either. So now I am looking at a '99 Ram 1 ton dually 2wd with a V10 auto and 113K that looks mint for $10K. Should do what I need w/o the noise and smell, I can buy a lot of gas for the difference in price


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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: DodgeCharger] #1709148
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Interesting on the "stick has more value" comments.... We rarely see a manual equipped trucks out here, and it would have to be one he77 of a deal for me to ever own a G56 equipped truck. We've had our 01 since 03. It was purchased and maintained at the dealer I work at so I scooped it up when the original owners had to have the new "quieter" common rail. To be honest, I was a bit disappointed with the power, but an EZ, set of mild injectors, and a trans upgrade has made it a towing machine. "IF" i were looking at a newer rig the Hemi and 8 speed trans would probably get the pick, but my old noisy oil burner is paid for, and does the job it was designed to do.... and does it well. The terrain sucks out here in the desert southwest so I need all the help I can get.


Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: J_BODY] #1709149
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Interesting on the "stick has more value" comments.... We rarely see a manual equipped trucks out here,




Hence the reason for the push on value for them. The guys that want them have a hard time finding them, and are willing to pay. Autos are everywhere.

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1709150
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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?

Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: gss] #1709151
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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?




This one came for sale 4 years ago in Minneapolis, paid 8500.00 for it. Its almost the holy grail, 98 quad cab, 4x4, auto with the 12V Cummins. It has 181k on it and rust has started on the drivers side door and over the wheel wells which is standard for trucks in the rust belt. Not sure about non rust belt areas.

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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1709152
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I own an 06 Cummins that I bought new. The truck was loaded a Laramie. I paid 37,000 for the truck. My wife would like to get one just like it in another color. We looked for over a year and not just at Laramie's. Any 2006 Cummins with less than 100k mile were bring around $35,000. I told more than one dealer that they were asking new prices for a used truck. These trucks were not lasting long even at these prices. Maybe it depends on the part of the country but around here they are like gold.



There's a 2006 Ram 2500 4x4 mega cab Cummins automatic w/ 109k miles on it for sale locally that I want bad. They're asking 30k for it.

Even the older 12v & 24v trucks are bringing good money...as long as they're quad cab and 4x4.




Mines a Laramie quad cab instead of a Mega w/ 105k. I'd probably take $25k for it. But then I'd have to find a new home. My wife loves that truck.


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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . . [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1709153
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I'm glad you guys all have such good luck with them. I sold my 00' at 125k. So far It had 3 injection pumps, 1 transmission, the dash had completely collapsed and the clear coat was coming off all over...

I truly wish it was not had been the case because the engine was fantastic.

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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?




That’s what I was trying to figure out. I’ve seen some very clean looking ones on the internet with 300k miles on them. Then I’ve seen some used up work trucks that looked like they were ready to be put out to pasture. Tomorrow I’m picking up a 97 with 280k miles on it. I know it was still being driven until the transfer case took a dump a year or two ago. I don’t know what happens to these trucks when guys are done with them, I’ve certainly never seen a cummins pickup in the junkyard.

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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?




That’s what I was trying to figure out. I’ve seen some very clean looking ones on the internet with 300k miles on them. Then I’ve seen some used up work trucks that looked like they were ready to be put out to pasture. Tomorrow I’m picking up a 97 with 280k miles on it. I know it was still being driven until the transfer case took a dump a year or two ago. I don’t know what happens to these trucks when guys are done with them, I’ve certainly never seen a cummins pickup in the junkyard.




Its been my experience Manitoba does not have a lot Dodge trucks with the Cummins in them, not sure why and yet in Saskatchewan, they're loaded. I have a friend over there and he finds them on a regular basis. In the years I've looked for one here, its been slim pickings. And agree you will not see one in any wrecker's yard.

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I'm glad you guys all have such good luck with them. I sold my 00' at 125k. So far It had 3 injection pumps, 1 transmission, the dash had completely collapsed and the clear coat was coming off all over...

I truly wish it was not had been the case because the engine was fantastic.




Guys realize the weak points and up grade them. The dash is like $200. The injection pump was failing because of the bad factory lift pump. Most guys put a FASS or an Airdog on ASAP. As far as the paint a lot depends on the color. Some hold up much better than others. Almost forgot the trans. If you get a good rebuild with upgraded parts they will last 300,000 miles or more even if you beat them every day.

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Guys realize the weak points and up grade them. The dash is like $200. The injection pump was failing because of the bad factory lift pump. Most guys put a FASS or an Airdog on ASAP. As far as the paint a lot depends on the color. Some hold up much better than others. Almost forgot the trans. If you get a good rebuild with upgraded parts they will last 300,000 miles or more even if you beat them every day.




Yup, that's what my buddy and I call "Diesel tax"

I've added a 2 micron fuel/water separator/filter to help out the factory filter and change all the filters at every oil change. This will greatly increase injector life. I'll be adding pyro, boost, and trans temp gauges to keep an eye on vitals and ensure I don't abuse it too hard. I plan to build the front end at some point and using quality parts that may cost me a lot, but will be a LOT cheaper than a new truck. Likewise on the trans...WHEN my stock trans blows...it'll get rebuilt with billet converter, input shaft, upgraded clutches, etc. so that it'll go 200k+ miles.

This truck is currently rust free, and I plan to do routine cleaning to keep it that way...power wash the inside of the body crevices, like the wheel wells in the bed (remove tail lights to get access) pull the front plastic liners and keep them clear of debris. hose out the rocker panels, etc. THEN, spray them all down with rust inhibitor of some type.


I hope that this is the last truck I buy for 20 years.


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