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Master Cylinder Color #1701050
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Black or as cast?

Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: dart4forte] #1701051
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That totally depends on the car, the brake package and the year.

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That totally depends on the car, the brake package and the year.




68 Dart GTS. 383. KH disk brakes

Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: dart4forte] #1701053
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i don't recall ever seeing a painted master cylinder back in the day. why would they be painted? if any dot 3 fluid, and i think that's all there was, was spilled on them the paint would be gone.

Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: lewtot184] #1701054
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i don't recall ever seeing a painted master cylinder back in the day. why would they be painted? if any dot 3 fluid, and i think that's all there was, was spilled on them the paint would be gone.




Many cars had painted master cylinders. This is correct for my '70 B body with PDBs;



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Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: DPelletier] #1701055
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i don't recall ever seeing a painted master cylinder back in the day. why would they be painted? if any dot 3 fluid, and i think that's all there was, was spilled on them the paint would be gone.




Many cars had painted master cylinders. This is correct for my '70 B body with PDBs;



Dave


Me thinks not, I've never saw a original pre 1971 Mopr that had a painted M.C., slant six, to hemi cars My 1970 V code Charger R/T with a SCP date of 10-29-1969 had a plan old non painted M.C. like yours with power disc brakes Same thing on many 340,383, 440 U and V codes B and E bodies as well as several slant six Chargers I saw back in the day The old brake fluid will weep through the cast iron and make the paint sluff off, the paint falling onto the exhaust manifold can cause a fire


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Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: Cab_Burge] #1701056
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It is true. 1970 cars with power brakes had the whole master cylinder, booster, valve, lid & bail painted black as a assembly.

Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: Cab_Burge] #1701057
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Me thinks not, I've never saw a original pre 1971 Mopr that had a painted M.C., slant six, to hemi cars My 1970 V code Charger R/T with a SCP date of 10-29-1969 had a plan old non painted M.C. like yours with power disc brakes Same thing on many 340,383, 440 U and V codes B and E bodies as well as several slant six Chargers I saw back in the day The old brake fluid will weep through the cast iron and make the paint sluff off, the paint falling onto the exhaust manifold can cause a fire




Sorry but you're wrong. I'll go through my pics for survivors but I've researched '70 'Bees for a decade now (especially Lynch Rd. cars) and I can tell you that they came painted.


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Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: DPelletier] #1701058
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Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: DPelletier] #1701060
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NOS MS;

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Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1701062
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Side view. I removed the lid for this shot so you can see that it was painted with the lid on;

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Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: DPelletier] #1701063
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Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: dart4forte] #1701064
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That totally depends on the car, the brake package and the year.




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SOOO!!!, Was the pre 1970 A body disk brake M/C painted? I've' seen black and cast color. For me the brake fluid is not an issue in that I use DOT 5 silicone.

Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1701065
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NOS MS;





Hemi MS.


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NOS MS;





Hemi MS.


Dave




What is MS?

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MS - Master Cylinder.

I meant to type MC.

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NOS MS;





Hemi MS.


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Close, but it is a non-Hemi 2229171 1970 E-body power disc master cylinder. The Hemi cars (E&B), used the 191 and it had a piston retention bolt in the bottom.

Re: Master Cylinder Color [Re: DPelletier] #1701069
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Me thinks not, I've never saw a original pre 1971 Mopr that had a painted M.C., slant six, to hemi cars My 1970 V code Charger R/T with a SCP date of 10-29-1969 had a plan old non painted M.C. like yours with power disc brakes Same thing on many 340,383, 440 U and V codes B and E bodies as well as several slant six Chargers I saw back in the day The old brake fluid will weep through the cast iron and make the paint sluff off, the paint falling onto the exhaust manifold can cause a fire




Sorry but you're wrong. I'll go through my pics for survivors but I've researched '70 'Bees for a decade now (especially Lynch Rd. cars) and I can tell you that they came painted.


Dave




Dave stop proving yourself, no matter what you say to some they always know better. I don't understand why guys that generally post in Race sections are now adding their comments in the Restoration Forum when they know not what they speak.
The Bendix setup was painted as an assembly with booster like you showed.
There were other setups like my 72 that have a Plated Booster that use bare masters, it's not a blanket answer for all.
Ron

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