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Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? #1698297
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With all of the buzz about turbo’s right now, I am at a point where I’m seriously looking at producing turbo “kits” for mopars. The idea is that these will be SIMPLE blow through carb bolt on kits with everything you need from cylinder head to carb hat.

The idea will mainly be focused on the 500~700hp small block crowd, as the motors and cars plentiful, small turbos are lower cost to feed smaller motors, and many production manifolds are easy to come by. I believe I have a plan to eliminate any need for cutting/welding, and bolt right up. Kits would be for A, B, and E bodies, and AT LEAST priced competitively with equivalent HP centrifugal supercharger kits (if not better).

What do you guys think? Any interest?

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698298
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Do one for a Big Block and I'm in.


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Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1698299
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No big blocks... (at least to start with).

-No manifolds (which would require custom headers)
-Expensive (big) turbo's required to feed them
-There are a lot more people looking for 500~700hp then 700~1000hp


Kits would be double what I can build a small block one for... so I'm guessing the market isn't there for that.

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698300
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Quote:

No big blocks... (at least to start with).

-No manifolds (which would require custom headers)
-Expensive (big) turbo's required to feed them
-There are a lot more people looking for 500~700hp then 700~1000hp


Kits would be double what I can build a small block one for... so I'm guessing the market isn't there for that.




I guess I'll have to fab up my own then...

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1698301
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Full kits to just componites maybe? Imo not knowing what size and type turbo to use is the biggest obstacle for us dummys.

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698302
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I thought someone was doing this already and it didn't really take off

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698303
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I think it is a great idea, and will fill a void for sure.
Unfortunately my LA/A-body project got put on the back burner after I picked up my Belvedere, and I have the means to set up one myself (just not the time)

A couple concerns I might have
- mopar guys are cheap
- small market (how many guys are buying centrifugal blower kits?)
- everyone will want something different (air/air, air/water, Meth), and people are difficult to please
- must use purple cam

Good luck with it!


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Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: OUTLAWD] #1698304
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The only "kits" I'm aware of that anyone has ever tried to offer were far from "simple bolt on" type things.

I'm really thinking JY 318 + kit =500hp+. It's pretty hard to build something so streetable at that power level for that kind of price.

Market is small, but there is just about zero competition right now.

Air to air/water-meth are simple add ons to sell anyone. The hot side is what everyone craves, but will (for the most part) work with many turbo sizes/power levels. It would be very easy to offer both intercooled/non-intercooled kits, along with different turbo options.

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698305
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Quote:

With all of the buzz about turbo’s right now, I am at a point where I’m seriously looking at producing turbo “kits” for mopars. The idea is that these will be SIMPLE blow through carb bolt on kits with everything you need from cylinder head to carb hat.

The idea will mainly be focused on the 500~700hp small block crowd, as the motors and cars plentiful, small turbos are lower cost to feed smaller motors, and many production manifolds are easy to come by. I believe I have a plan to eliminate any need for cutting/welding, and bolt right up. Kits would be for A, B, and E bodies, and AT LEAST priced competitively with equivalent HP centrifugal supercharger kits (if not better).

What do you guys think? Any interest?




imho, The most valuable thing you have to offer is your knowledge you have gained from actually having done this....

From what I have read, I am assuming you would procure the turbo, blow-off valve, wastegate, carb, used manifolds, oil lines, etc., then manufacture the turbo mounting bracket, piping from the exhaust manifolds to the turbo, the piping from the turbo to the carb, and possibly exhaust piping off the turbo.....and package it together with instructions....

The marketing drawback I see is maybe the guys doing low-buck, low hp small block turbo's.....might be low-buck.....and not be able to spend thousands at a time....so just offering the parts you make, and letting them know where/what else to buy later might be better.

It seems like it would be very low risk to just make a few copies of exactly what you have now, and see what the market thinks.

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: ] #1698306
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I wish someone would produce a turbo setup for the dodge ram trucks. Something that you could bolt on a bone stock engine and get the benefits of adding more power and fuel economy at a very affordable price.

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: kenworth_goose] #1698307
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This will likely fit pre-hemi trucks... but the biggest issue is that 94~01 are still EFI so they would require tuning.

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698308
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Good idea, I'm interested.
Just remember, it seldom is as easy as it first seems, this is a very tough crowd to please, and if it was easy, others will soon copy what you have done, cheaper.


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Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698309
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I think it's a great idea and I commend you for it. The reasons that you mentioned are the same reasons I started my crank business. I also believe they would sell.

Rod

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698310
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I'm interested too. I've been toying with the idea of building a turbo car for the street. I still want to do a diesel though but there isn't a lot to choose from and the Cummins is just too heavy.


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Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: BPE] #1698311
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Rod are you able to keep any 360 4.25 crank around? I want to sell all my 4 inch stuff and go 4.25 but I don't want to do it if I can't get one when my stuff sells, 4.125 is not worth the effort unless I was starting from scratch.


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Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: kenworth_goose] #1698312
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Check these guys out http://www.performanceinjectionequipment.com/Turbos.html

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I wish someone would produce a turbo setup for the dodge ram trucks. Something that you could bolt on a bone stock engine and get the benefits of adding more power and fuel economy at a very affordable price.



Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: dizuster] #1698313
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My brother has made turbo kits for the Hayabusa for the last 10yrs so I understand what you are facing.I did a drawing on CAD for my 69 Satellite for a TT and it was just a lot of measuring and you build the kit to fit inside them so I do believe you can make kits and they will work.


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Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: Clanton] #1698314
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I wish someone made simple turbo flange headers for the big blocks. To me, that's the hardest part.

Re: Who wants to buy a mopar a turbo kit? [Re: HotRodDave] #1698315
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Yes, they are in stock. My apologies to the OP, back on topic for the small block turbo idea.

Rod

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