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Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #1691669 01/08/15 07:04 PM 01/08/15 07:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland rhamson OP member
rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	I am trying to put together the beginnings of my 440 for the Challenger and was wondering if anybody knew of a good machine shop and builder in the Maryland area. I want to make sure all the clearances and dimensions are correct for the engine. Rather than putting together a bunch of parts that might not work well together I want to be sure. I can assemble the engine and have in Hawaii and the west coast I don't know of anybody around here I could trust.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #1691670 01/08/15 07:42 PM 01/08/15 07:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD p d'ro pro stock
p d'ro pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584 MD	Quote: I am trying to put together the beginnings of my 440 for the Challenger and was wondering if anybody knew of a good machine shop and builder in the Maryland area. I want to make sure all the clearances and dimensions are correct for the engine. Rather than putting together a bunch of parts that might not work well together I want to be sure. I can assemble the engine and have in Hawaii and the west coast I don't know of anybody around here I could trust. I hear you. I am in Rockville, MD and had a guy in Frederick build my 440. It is fine, but he has since done another friend's 383 and it ended up with the wrong piston set. Has like 8.5:1 compression and only pulls 10" of vacuum at idle as a stock rebuild. Total dog and admitted fault with apprentice tech. He was also looking at a local performance shop in Frederick to fix it but the shop is having issues getting him a quote. Let me know if you find anyone!

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #1691671 01/09/15 12:53 PM 01/09/15 12:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland K Keepat mopar
Keepat mopar K Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland	Quote: I am trying to put together the beginnings of my 440 for the Challenger and was wondering if anybody knew of a good machine shop and builder in the Maryland area. I want to make sure all the clearances and dimensions are correct for the engine. Rather than putting together a bunch of parts that might not work well together I want to be sure. I can assemble the engine and have in Hawaii and the west coast I don't know of anybody around here I could trust. Ralph, I have used CGM Motorsport in Millersville MD (410 766 7467) Nice shop and great people to work with. As with most machine shops plan ahead and be patient! Good luck! Pat

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: Keepat] #1691672 01/10/15 11:28 AM 01/10/15 11:28 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland rhamson OP member
rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	Thanks Pat. You are the second person to recommend them. I am looking to mostly get the machine work done and checking measurements especially the valve train.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #1691673 01/13/15 11:15 AM 01/13/15 11:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland wally426ci master
wally426ci master Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,554 Maryland	I have heard good things about Burtonsville Performance and there is a guy in Glen Rock, PA that is supposed to be tops.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: EK2Runner] #1691674 01/18/15 05:03 PM 01/18/15 05:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 196 Riyadh, Saudi Arabia M Merlin45 member
Merlin45 member M Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 196 Riyadh, Saudi Arabia	I remember how fast the funds ran from my wallet when doing my 74 Challenger but she's done and I'm happy. Take a look, go to www.hnhrodshop.com http://hnhrodshop.com/ click on "current projects" to see the work. Total new front clip and lots of body work (new drivers floor pan and firewall total redone). Then the paint job with the 440/6 freshly built. A thrill to drive and the looks never stop. Hang in there, it's worth the struggle.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #1850595 06/16/15 05:55 PM 06/16/15 05:55 PM
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rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	Getting on with some rust repair. The theme of this car is becoming how many shortcuts does a shop take before it goes out of business. The guy I bought the car from got it from a guy who ran out of money and had a quicky hack job done on it to sell it. They painted over the rust on the fenders without fixing it behind the light buckets. So it is left for me to do it over.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #1850648 06/16/15 08:13 PM 06/16/15 08:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland K Keepat mopar
Keepat mopar K Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland	Ralph it's good to hear you're back with an update but how about some pictures of the progress? Pat

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: Keepat] #1867829 07/10/15 06:07 PM 07/10/15 06:07 PM
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rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	Yeah I am pretty much done with this new format on here. Impossible to share pictures. My computer skills are not up to this. I am telling everyone to go to the Cuda-challenger forum if you want to see my progress. Thanks. Maybe I will see you in Carlisle tomorrow?

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #1867989 07/10/15 11:06 PM 07/10/15 11:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	Yup Moparts is pretty much finished. Cuda Challenger is a great place for E-body discussion without the drama. Sheldon Sheldon

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2205289 11/30/16 04:02 PM 11/30/16 04:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland rhamson OP member
rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	Anybody know of a good frame shop in Maryland specifically the Eastern Shore? I have had nothing but stories and delays that have delayed me over two months now. Talking with one guy he seems to have a different concept of where points will go when the frame is put back into position. The other guy I have been talking to wants all the sheet metal back on the car. I suppose this is to watch panel gaps. But if I assemble the metal to fit it will change and not show him a thing if the frame is still bent. The car looks like it went into a ditch on the front passenger side which when measured with a laser level shows it is up by 3/4". You can see the bend in the rail under the front passenger floor. I need someone who can get it back to spec before I continue.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2206485 12/02/16 02:48 PM 12/02/16 02:48 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland K Keepat mopar
Keepat mopar K Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland	Ralph, Check with Southern Body Works in Harwood MD. John the owner is a Mopar guy! and knows E body's! Pat

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: Keepat] #2206884 12/03/16 11:43 AM 12/03/16 11:43 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland rhamson OP member
rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	I tried him from Alexs' suggestion. He can't do it. I tried somebody he recommended but have run into 3 months of delays and am not sure if the guy understands what I need done. Anybody else?

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2298853 05/04/17 01:12 PM 05/04/17 01:12 PM
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rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	I finally bent the frame back myself. First I had to get an accurate measurement where the bend was by setting a level table under the car. [image]

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2298854 05/04/17 01:14 PM 05/04/17 01:14 PM
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rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	Next I set up three 2x12 under the length of the car to where I could secure it at the back and place a cradle in the front with a 20 ton bottle jack.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2298857 05/04/17 01:19 PM 05/04/17 01:19 PM
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rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	Here is the custom cradle I used to pull the frame rail down.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2298858 05/04/17 01:22 PM 05/04/17 01:22 PM
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rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	Adjusting the panel gaps.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2298862 05/04/17 01:25 PM 05/04/17 01:25 PM
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rhamson OP member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 145 Maryland	on to the nastiness and endless sanding.

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2299128 05/04/17 08:19 PM 05/04/17 08:19 PM
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modelmakerinc top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,343 west palm beach, florida	interesting choice, you are using 71 Plymouth side markers. Much better than the 72 and up cheesy factory surface mount ones. isn't blocking a JOY Exceptional Architectural, Yacht and Automotive scale models. e-mail modelmakerinc@att.net for a portfolio review. www.modelmakerinc.com

Re: '72 Challenger Saga [Re: rhamson] #2299200 05/04/17 10:18 PM 05/04/17 10:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland K Keepat mopar
Keepat mopar K Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 676 Maryland	Ralph, Great progress!! very cool frame tool :-) Pat

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