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Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: BobsProFab] #169075
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HEY BOB, how much on the shock's ????



just shocks or complete with springs and hardware.

these are sold as a shock ready for coil overs.
must buy the hardware kit also to install the spring.




Do you sell the aluminum piece that replaces the bottom rubber/poly bushing on the top shock mount?

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: mopowers] #169076
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HEY BOB, how much on the shock's ????



just shocks or complete with springs and hardware.

these are sold as a shock ready for coil overs.
must buy the hardware kit also to install the spring.




Do you sell the aluminum piece that replaces the bottom rubber/poly bushing on the top shock mount?



i turn them on the lathe out of 6061, the urethane bushing that comes with the shocks will not hold the weight when converted to coil over. they are fine for using them as a stock style front shock.
I make them as needed, but if you need a set i can tool some up

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: BobsProFab] #169077
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Bondo, will that setup work on a street car? Mind you, Im not talking about driving down the road like you would in a beater neon or something, just able to putt around with when not racing..

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: Hot 340] #169078
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Yes, i put a ton of street miles on 340Ricks challenger this past summer (i think i put more miles on his car than he did in the past 10 years ) with my setup on it and the same coil overs with #250 springs

the lighter spring seems to work well with me adding more per load to them for better reaction from the suspension.

i can get you awesome deals on AFco products
Bondo

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: BobsProFab] #169079
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3850M list 410.40 each : T2 5 inch drag coil over ready shock double adjustable.
23250CR list 68.69 each : coil over spring, this is what i run on Ricks car.
20124 list 47.55 each : coil over hardware kit.
20144 list 40.10 pair : bearing kit.

thats $1,093.00 list on the front coil overs
www.afcoracing.com and search the part #'s


they are not cheap but one of the best shocks on the market today and AFco's customer service is second to none
you can PM me for a killer price on a set

Bondo

Re: coil over front on a duster? #169080
12/29/08 02:54 PM
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thanks, I also saw somewhere welding done on the LCA,s is this necessary?



Right here. Coil Over Conversion



Ok I missing the boat here ! if you weld them LCA like that pic..how do the control arms move up and down ??

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: VernMotor] #169081
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I was wondering the same thing. It seems to me like it would bind.

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: mopowers] #169082
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If you look at the last pic, you can see that there is an adapter at the top of the shock that allows it to pivot. Since the shock length can change, as the lower/upper control arms go through their range, the shock length changes. If the shock length didn't change through the motion it wouldn't actually do anything...

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: dizuster] #169083
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yes the LCA will try to bind.
but on a budget it gets the job done.


my setup has zero resitance

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Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: VernMotor] #169084
12/29/08 10:03 PM
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thanks, I also saw somewhere welding done on the LCA,s is this necessary?



Right here. Coil Over Conversion



Ok I missing the boat here ! if you weld them LCA like that pic..how do the control arms move up and down ??




The part you see welded is the adjuster that is no longer used once the torsion bar is eliminated. The weld just keeps what's left of the adjuster from moving around. I have whacked them off as close as possible then welded just for cosmetic purposes. Has nothing to do with the movement of the LCA.

Mike Gray


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Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: Plumb Wired] #169085
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thanks, I also saw somewhere welding done on the LCA,s is this necessary?



Right here. Coil Over Conversion



Ok I missing the boat here ! if you weld them LCA like that pic..how do the control arms move up and down ??




The part you see welded is the adjuster that is no longer used once the torsion bar is eliminated. The weld just keeps what's left of the adjuster from moving around. I have whacked them off as close as possible then welded just for cosmetic purposes. Has nothing to do with the movement of the LCA.

Mike Gray




I think the confusion lies with the bolt and big washer that connects the LCA to the pivot pin. Once the adjuster is welded to the LCA and the pivot is bolted to both the LCA and the K-member it doesn't look like it should move.

It looks like Duster Dave used a nylon or teflon washer to allow the LCA to rotate up and down a little easier. It looks like that would free up some of the movement.

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: BobsProFab] #169086
12/30/08 01:04 AM
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Bondo, Do you have any pics of the shock tower brace that you offer?

Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: 416Swinger] #169087
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a body brace, under the inner fender.

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Re: coil over front on a duster? [Re: mopowers] #169088
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thanks, I also saw somewhere welding done on the LCA,s is this necessary?



Right here. Coil Over Conversion



Ok I missing the boat here ! if you weld them LCA like that pic..how do the control arms move up and down ??




The part you see welded is the adjuster that is no longer used once the torsion bar is eliminated. The weld just keeps what's left of the adjuster from moving around. I have whacked them off as close as possible then welded just for cosmetic purposes. Has nothing to do with the movement of the LCA.

Mike Gray




I think the confusion lies with the bolt and big washer that connects the LCA to the pivot pin. Once the adjuster is welded to the LCA and the pivot is bolted to both the LCA and the K-member it doesn't look like it should move.

It looks like Duster Dave used a nylon or teflon washer to allow the LCA to rotate up and down a little easier. It looks like that would free up some of the movement.





I don't understand the confusion, the LCA shafts rotates on the bushings in the k-member.

Mike Gray


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