Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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Not that I have much of a right to vote as I do not run either class but I will say I would prefer it to be kept MOPAR only.
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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Not that I have much of a right to vote as I do not run either class but I will say I would prefer it to be kept MOPAR only.
Why? not to be mean, I just would like to hear your reasoning.
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CLASS/INDEX DESIGNATIONS
AAA/FX 8.75; AA/FX 9.00; A/FX 9.25; B/FX 9.50; C/FX 9.75; NSS/A 10.00; NSS/B 10.50; NSS/C 11.00; NSS/D 11.50; NSS/E 12.00; NSS/F 12.50 and NSS/G 13.00
QUALIFYING INFORMATION, LADDER TYPE, & TREE
All Run, NHRA Sportsman Ladder, .500 Full Tree, Handicap Start.
ELIGIBLE YEAR MODELS AND BODY STYLES
The following is a list of cars/engines which are allowed to compete in Nostalgia Super Stock Eliminator:
• AMC AMX: 1968 – 1969; 390 • Chevrolet Full Bodied: 1959-64;348 & 409s, Z11 427 • Chevrolet Full Bodied: 1965-67;396-454 • Chevrolet Chevelle: 1964 – 1967; 396-454 • Pontiac Full Bodied: 1959-67;389-455 • Tempest/GTO: 1962-67;389-455 • Ford Full Bodied: 1959-67;390-427 • Ford Thunderbolt: 1964;427 • Fairlane/Comet/Cyclone/Falcon: 1963-67;427 • Dodge/Plymouth Full Bodied: 1960-67;383-440 wedge • Dodge/Plymouth Full Bodied: 1964-67;Hemi • Buick Full Bodied: 1960-67;401-455 • Skylark GS: 1964-67;400-401-455 • Chevelle: 1964-67;396-454 • Oldsmobile Full Bodied: 1960-67;394-400-455 • Cutlass/442: 1964-67;400-455 • Dart/Barracuda: 1967-69;383-440 • Dart/Barracuda: 1968;426 Hemi
All Classes
All NSS Eliminator participants must declare and post the NSS or FX class of choice at the time of technical inspection or prior to the first scheduled qualifying run of the eliminator. No change of class is permitted after the first scheduled qualifying round.
NOSTALGIA SUPER STOCK
ELIMINATOR REQUIREMENTS
1: ENGINE
1.1 COOLING SYSTEM
RADIATOR: OEM production-style or aftermarket radiator is required and must be mounted in stock location. Stock core support is required.
WATER PUMP: Any aftermarket (belt drive or electric drive) pump permitted.
COOLING FANS: Any permitted.
1.2 ENGINE
ENGINE: See ELIGIBLE YEAR MODELS AND BODY STYLES. Any internal engine modifications permitted.
1.3 EXHAUST
EXHAUST: All entries allowed to use tubular headers. Adapter plates permitted to bolt headers to cylinder head. Exhaust must be directed out of car body, away from driver and fuel tank.
1.3A) HEADERS & COLLECTORS: Any headers and/or collectors permitted.
1.3B) EXHAUST TUBING/SIZE: Any tubing size permitted.
1.3C) TAILPIPE & EXHAUST RULES: Not required.
1.3D) MUFFLER REQUIREMENTS: Not required.
1.5 FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM
DELIVERY SYSTEM: Fuel cells, electric or mechanical fuel pumps, pressure regulators, and any line size permitted. Fuel pump must shut off with a master electrical switch. Stock gas tank (if used) must be retained in factory location. Modified fuel pickups & outlet permitted. Aftermarket/fabricated fuel tank or cell permitted; in NSS classes must be located in trunk area; in F/X classes, installation in era-correct front location permitted. If tank or fuel filler is inside trunk, a bulkhead of minimum .032” aluminum or .024” steel must be used between trunk and driver compartment, and tank must be vented to outside of car. When used, fuel cells must have a metal box protecting the part of the fuel cell that is outside the trunk floor. Non-metallic fuel cells or tanks must be grounded to frame. (Reference: National Hot Rod Association General Regulations Section 1.5.)
1.6 GASOLINE
GASOLINE: Gasoline is the only permitted fuel in NSS classes. Gasoline is one of the two fuels permitted in the FX classes.
1.8 ALCOHOL
ALCOHOL: Permitted in the FX classes.
1.9 NITROUS OXIDE
NITROUS OXIDE: Prohibited.
1.10 OIL SYSTEM OILING SYSTEM: Dry-sumps prohibited. Oil pump must remain in stock location. Oil pan capacity may be increased. 1.12 SUPERCHARGER SUPERCHARGER: Prohibited.
1.15 BLOCK BLOCK: Aftermarket blocks may be either cast iron or aluminum if they appear externally to be the same as was originally available on the year/make/model of entry.
1.16 ENGINE LOCATION / MOUNTS ENGINE LOCATION/MOUNTS (NSS CLASSES): Block and/or heads must not touch stock firewall. Firewall must be in stock location. Engine plates and solid engine mounts permitted.
ENGINE LOCATION/MOUNTS (F/X CLASSES): Engine plates and solid engine mounts permitted. Engine may be set back as far as necessary with this limitation: The centerline of the number-one spark-plug hole may not go further back than the base of the windshield. Sidewinder engine placement prohibited. (Reference: Firewalls, section 7.5)
1.17 HEADS HEADS: Aftermarket cylinder heads permitted. Cylinder heads may be cast iron or aluminum if they appear externally to be the same as was originally available on the year/make/model of entry. Any internal cylinder head modifications permitted.
1.18 VALVETRAIN VALVETRAIN: Any valvetrain permitted.
1.19 CARBURETOR CARBURETOR (NSS CLASSES): All entries in the eliminator must be carbureted as outlined below. Carburetors must be of type and design as originally produced for a specific vehicle. Positioning of carburetors from factory mounting not a tech item (carburetors may be positioned facing forwards, backwards, or side mounted). Choke plate, choke shaft, choke linkage, and choke mechanism may be removed; choke horn removal permitted. The following carburetor combinations are allowed, regardless of year/make/model of entry:
•Buick 400-455; Single Carter, AFB, Edelbrock or Q-Jet, inline 2x4 with Carters, AFBs or Edelbrocks. •Chevy 348-409; Inline 2x4, inline 3x2 with Rochesters or single 4bbl with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrocks or Rochesters. •Chevy 396-454; Single 4bbl with Rochester, Carter,AFB, Edelbrock or Holley, Inline 2x4 with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrocks or Holleys, Inline 3x2 Holleys. •Chrysler Hemi; Inline 2x4 or single 4bbl intake with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrocks, Holleys; or cross-ram 2x4 intake with Holleys. •Chrysler Wedge; Inline or cross-ram 2x4 or single 4bbl intake with Carters, AFBs, or Edelbrocks. •Ford; Inline 2x4 intakes, inline 3x2, or single 4bbl with Holleys. •Pontiac; Inline 2x4 intakes or single 4bbl with Carters, AFBs, or Edelbrocks; or inline 3x2 with Rochesters. •AMX 390—Cross ram 2x4 bbl intakes with Holleys. •Olds 400-455; 1x4 Q-Jet, inline with 3x2 Rochesters. CARBURETOR (F/X CLASSES): Vehicles in these classes permitted the use of carburetors listed for NSS, or Holley up to 850 cfm in size (no Dominators).
Multiple Carburetion Preferred
Racers with current legal National Muscle Car Association and Monster Mopar Dave Duell Classic single 4-bbl carburetor/intake manifold/vehicle combinations are encouraged to change to multiple carburetion. Racers with combinations currently under construction are also encouraged to use multiple carburetion.
1.20 FUEL INJECTION
FUEL INJECTION: Era-correct mechanical fuel injection permitted in F/X classes only.
1.21 INTAKE MANIFOLD
INTAKE MANIFOLD: In general, common commercial market cast units are preferred and required if available. Sheet metal units allowed only in AAA, AA and A/FX classes and only after inspection by the rules committee. Top of manifold lid may be modified and fabricated as necessary to accommodate carburetor placement.
1.22 SOLENOIDS
SOLENOIDS: Prohibited.
1.23 TURBOCHARGER
TURBOCHARGER: Prohibited.
1.24 AFTERCOOLER/INTERCOOLER
AFTERCOOLERS/INTERCOOLER: Prohibited.
2: DRIVETRAIN 2.3 CLUTCH
CLUTCH: Clutch operation must be manually applied and disengaged with foot during run, without the assist of electric, hydraulic or pneumatic devices. Multi stage, variable release, or lock up type of any description is prohibited. Throwout bearing must release all fingers or levers simultaneously.
2.4 DRIVESHAFT
DRIVESHAFT: Any permitted.
2.11 REAREND
REAREND: Any automotive type rearend permitted.
2.12 MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS
MANUAL TRANSMISSION (NSS classes): OEM or aftermarket transmissions with a maximum of 4 forward speeds permitted.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION (F/X classes): OEM or aftermarket transmissions with a maximum of 5 forward speeds or clutchless transmissions permitted in AAA, AA and A/FX classes only.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION (ALL CLASSES): All shifts must be made manually without the aid of electric, hydraulic or pneumatic devices. Starting line rev limiters permitted. Torque converter not permitted with this type transmission.
2.13 PURPOSE BUILT TRANSMISSIONS
PURPOSE BUILT TRANSMISSIONS: Prohibited.
2.14 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS
(OEM American transmissions or replicas of OEM American transmissions that use planetary gears)
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS: Automatic transmissions originally produced by any American automobile manufacturer or replicas of an automatic transmission produced by any American automobile manufacture (Example: Deadenbear PG transmission) mandatory. Lock-up transmissions/torque converters permitted. Transmission-to-engine adapters permitted. All shifts must be made manually without the aid of electric or pneumatic devices. TRANSMISSION BRAKE PROHIBITED: the following will be used to enforce the rule; a competitor may elect to leave the transbrake solenoid installed in the transmission, however any/all physical wiring must be removed to the solenoid while the vehicle is in competition.
Starting line rev limiters prohibited. Clutch prohibited with this type of transmission.
3: BRAKES & SUSPENSION
3.1 BRAKES
BRAKES: The braking system may be upgraded. All cars must have front and rear hydraulic brakes. Automated brakes or any type of traction control is prohibited. Application and release of brakes must be a function of the driver’s foot. Line loc permitted on front wheels only. Any other electric, pneumatic, or hydraulic device in the system is prohibited.
3.2 SHOCK ABSORBERS
Shock absorbers: each vehicle in competition must be equipped with one operative shock absorber for each sprung wheel. Shock absorbers may be either hydraulic or friction type, securely mounted and in good working order.
3.3 STEERING
STEERING: (NSS CLASSES) OEM steering mandatory.
STEERING: (F/X CLASSES) OEM or aftermarket steering in stock location mandatory.
3.4 SUSPENSION
FRONT SUSPENSION (NSS classes): Stock front suspension required. Aftermarket direct replacement suspension components including A-arms permitted.
FRONT SUSPENSION (F/X classes): Era-correct front suspension (example; straight front axle) permitted. Aftermarket direct replacement suspension components including A-arms permitted.
REAR SUSPENSION (All classes): Rear suspension of ladder bar, three/four link, or stock rear suspensions permitted.
3.6 WHEELIE BARS
WHEELIE BARS: Wheelie bars permitted in F/X classes and NSS/A.
4: FRAME
4.4 FRAME
FRAME (NSS CLASSES): Stock frame required but may be strengthened with the addition of braces and “notched” or moved inboard for rear-tire and wheel tub clearance.
FRAME (F/X CLASSES): Frame alteration permitted; full tube chassis prohibited.
FRAME (ALL CLASSES): Frame modification/alteration ‘kits’ and/or all material used for fabrication must be equal to or greater in strength than the stock material.
4.5 GROUND CLEARANCE
GROUND CLEARANCE: Minimum 3 inches from front of vehicle to 12 inches behind centerline of front axle; 2 inches for remainder of vehicle, except oil pan and exhaust headers.
4.12 WHEELBASE WHEELBASE (NSS CLASSES): Must retain stock wheelbase with a maximum variation from left to right and front to back of 1 inch. Stock overhangs are required.
WHEELBASE (FX CLASSES): Any period-style alteration of wheelbase and overhang is allowed.
5: TIRES & WHEELS
5.1 TIRES
TIRES (F/X CLASSES, NSS/A, NSS/B): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx33-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width. The tread of the tires is not allowed to protrude outside the exterior bodyline at the top of the tire.
TIRES (ALL OTHER NSS CLASSES): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx31-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width. Tire tread may not extend outside fenders.
5.2 WHEELS
WHEELS: Spindle-mount front wheels prohibited.
6: INTERIOR
6.1 INTERIOR
INTERIOR (NSS CLASSES): Must have full factory seating, upholstery, and carpeting. Aftermarket upholstered bucket seats permitted, two required. Full dashboard mandatory. Aftermarket gauges permitted. Rear seat may be removed when roll bar/cage is installed. Area must be carpeted or upholstered equivalent to factory specifications (no bare paneling).
INTERIOR (F/X CLASSES): Full removal of interior allowed.
7: BODY
NSS CLASSES: Topless cars prohibited. Lightweight replacement parts permitted for fenders, hood, doors, deck lid, and bumpers. External modification of any body panel that will alter the stock bodyline is prohibited. The body must be finished & painted.
FX CLASSES: Topless cars prohibited. Lightweight replacement parts permitted for fenders, hood, doors, deck lid, and bumpers. External modification of any body panel that will alter the stock bodyline is prohibited. Hoods are optional. The body must be finished & painted.
7.1 ADVERTISING
GRAPHICS/LETTERING: Graphics/lettering for advertising or creative purposes permitted on entire body. 7.2 SPOILERS, WINGS SPOILERS, WINGS: Aftermarket wings and/or spoilers prohibited. 7.5 FIREWALLS FIREWALLS: Stock firewall in stock location mandatory. Firewall may be relocated rearward in FX classes. (Reference: Engine location/mounts, section 1.16)
7.6 FLOOR/TRUNK PAN
FLOOR/TRUNK PAN: Complete floor in stock location mandatory. Floor/Trunk Pan modifications permitted for clearance purposes of ladder bars, mufflers, and fuel cell. Material to be used if there are floor/truck pan modification is limited to same type material and same or greater thickness as original floor/trunk pan.
7.7 HOOD/SCOOP
HOOD/SCOOP (NSS CLASSES): Hoodscoops limited to OEM equipment or period style. Hood/scoop may be no higher than 5 inches. Pro Stock style scoops prohibited. The entire induction system must be completely covered by hood or scoop, which must be part of the vehicle hood.
HOOD/SCOOP (F/X CLASSES): Not required.
7.9 WINDSHIELDS/WINDOWS
WINDSHIELD/WINDOWS: Must be OEM safety glass or NHRA/International Hot Rod Association approved Lexan or Plexiglas.
7.10 BUMPERS
BUMPERS: Complete stock-appearing bumpers required.
7.11 FENDER SPLASH PANS
FENDER SPLASH PANS (NSS CLASSES): OEM or aftermarket full-fender splash pans required. Splash pans may be trimmed to allow clearance for headers. Removable fender splash pans acceptable.
FENDER SPLASH PANS (F/X CLASSES): Not required.
7.12 GRILLE
GRILLE: A full-production grille is required for the body style used. Covering in front of or behind the grille prohibited.
7.13 WHEEL WELLS
INNER WHEELWELLS: Aftermarket wheel tubs permitted. Material used to add to the width of the inner wheel well may be steel or aluminum.
OUTER FENDERS: Leading and trailing edges of fenders may be trimmed for tire clearance, maximum 2 inches.
7.14 RAM AIR
RAM AIR: Any aftermarket or fabricated ram-air unit permitted that is not visible from exterior of vehicle.
7.15 DOORS
DOORS: OEM or aftermarket doors permitted. Driver and passenger doors must be functional and operable from inside and outside of vehicle.
8: ELECTRICAL
8.1 BATTERY
BATTERY: Battery may be relocated. Charging system optional.
8.3 IGNITION
IGNITION: Battery powered ignition system permitted as specified in this section. Aftermarket electronic breakerless distributor systems permitted. MSD 7AL series permitted, however, use as a traction control device prohibited. Engine rev limiters, top end only, and/or starting line with manual transmission only, permitted.
8.5 STARTER
STARTER: All entries must be self-starting with on-board starter.
9: SUPPORT GROUPS
All bracket racing aids such as optical sensors, delay boxes, stutter boxes, two-steps, three-steps, throttle stops and traction control prohibited. The application or use of any device, mechanical or electronic, which permits the driver to ascertain the position of the vehicle in relation to the starting line is prohibited.
9.2 ONBOARD DIAGNOSTICS/DATA RECORDERS
ONBOARD DIAGNOSTICS/DATA RECORDERS: Onboard diagnostics and data recorders used to monitor and record parameters such as a driveshaft speed, acceleration, nitrous timing, chassis strain, suspension travel etc., prohibited. Wide band oxygen sensors permitted.“ Playback” tachometers permitted. Laptops prohibited in vehicle.
9.8 TOW VEHICLES
TOW VEHICLES: Vehicles may not be towed in or to staging lanes. Vehicles may not be towed from the return road.
10: DRIVER
10.4 CREDENTIALS
CREDENTIALS: See NHRA/IHRA general regulations.
11: CLASS & SAFETY REQUIREMENTS
It is the participant’s responsibility to know the eliminator and class requirements as found in the current NSSNA rulebook and the safety requirements as found in the current NHRA/IHRA rulebooks. The participant agrees that the participant bears the ultimate responsibility at all times to ensure the safety of participant’s vehicle and to ensure that participant complies with all applicable NSSNA, NHRA & IHRA rules. The participant agrees that participant is in the best position to know about the construction and operation of participant’s vehicle, equipment, and clothing, and whether or not there has been compliance with all applicable NSSNA, NHRA & IHRA rules.
12: STREET-LEGAL REQUIREMENTS
Headlights and tail lights for year & make of body used mandatory. Single taillight required to be functional.
13: WEIGHT WEIGHT: Weight is not a tech item, however, excessive lightening as determined by the tech officials will not be permitted.
SUMMARY
Using the current NMCA rules as a model, the previous sections were written by a six-racer committee whose members have extensive experience in Nostalgia Super Stock racing, including the national event series of the NMCA and Goodguys Associations, the regional event series of the Chrysler Classic events and also regional clubs and associations such as Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc. and the Texas Outsiders.
In addition, these rules and procedures reflect almost 20 years of both development and tradition in NSS racing. The committee is confident these guidelines will be able to competently administer NSS racing both now and into the future.
The committee includes Mark Artis of the Texas Outsiders, Doug Duell of the Dave Duell Classic, John Grinwald of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc., Clay Kossuth of the Texas Outsiders, Jim Netherland of the NMCA series and Bob Wilkiewicz of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc.
Copyright© 2008 by the Nostalgia Super Stock National Association. All rights reserved.
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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Befor I could say leave it alone..I need to know how is diff from the other two ways ?
well i dont really know your question, but the HEMI class would stay the same, while the max wedge would be all the same car, just throw some more at it like brand x and such it would still be an index and such, plus vern throw 2 carbs or one afb and your car could run as well (unless its trans braked)
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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Not that I have much of a right to vote as I do not run either class but I will say I would prefer it to be kept MOPAR only.
Why? not to be mean, I just would like to hear your reasoning.
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Casey, your not being mean
I follow the CC Events series becuase it is all Mopar. I feel there is a certain comrodery we all have that does not (at least to me) apear present among "brand X drivers". As you may recall I was opposed to the MOPAR Vs THE WORLD as well.
If they open it to start including other makes I feel it will lose it's appeal.
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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Not that I have much of a right to vote as I do not run either class but I will say I would prefer it to be kept MOPAR only.
Why? not to be mean, I just would like to hear your reasoning.
casey
Casey, your not being mean
I follow the CC Events series becuase it is all Mopar. I feel there is a certain comrodery we all have that does not (at least to me) apear present among "brand X drivers". As you may recall I was opposed to the MOPAR Vs THE WORLD as well.
If they open it to start including other makes I feel it will lose it's appeal.
ok, i see your point, but then again look at the Monster Mopar. they have been doing this for 3 years (an all make NSS) and that event is still huge to Mopar racers. Just something to think about
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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I run a lot of NSS races in Pa/OH/NJ, and love that type of racing.
Again, my logic is that the problem is this: The Maxie guys and the Hemi guys might be put into a position where they would have to choose between running their own classes, or the NSS class. They could not do both on the same day.
This would Tee off Charlie's sponsors for each class, and rightfully so. Having another venue that competes for racers at the Charlie's own event is something no promotor would go for. And, if you eliminated the Hemi and Maxie classes to go solely NSS, then the Chrysler Classic events might as well be renamed something else. So, there is the problem.
As I mentioned, the only way it works is to have a seperate NSS race on one of the days of the Classic, with the Maxie and Hemi guys participating, then running their own CC deal on Sunday. Then, it would work.
Actually, I hope this can be worked out. But, I don't want it at the expense of the CC's uniqueness.
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Since I was around back then and loved SS racing, I do NOT understand the rationale of the class years. WHY would you allow 68 or 69 AMX or a 68 or 69 Dart or Cuda to run NSS, but no other cars older than 67 model year. I don't get it??? Why would you not allow my 70 Hemi Challenger that I ran in SS/D back in 70 & 71 or my 69 Six Pack Bee that I also ran in SS or my Brothers 70 340 Duster that he ran in SS against Hamburger? These three are ALL Mopar and are just as much a part of any nostalgic SS class as are the 67 Hemi cars. I can understand not wanting 80 model cars or even the late 77 or 79 cars as Super Stock was pretty much a dead class then. IF I could run, I would, but I would not build a 67 or older car just to compete.
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I run a lot of NSS races in Pa/OH/NJ, and love that type of racing.
Again, my logic is that the problem is this: The Maxie guys and the Hemi guys might be put into a position where they would have to choose between running their own classes, or the NSS class. They could not do both on the same day.
This would Tee off Charlie's sponsors for each class, and rightfully so. Having another venue that competes for racers at the Charlie's own event is something no promotor would go for. And, if you eliminated the Hemi and Maxie classes to go solely NSS, then the Chrysler Classic events might as well be renamed something else. So, there is the problem.
As I mentioned, the only way it works is to have a seperate NSS race on one of the days of the Classic, with the Maxie and Hemi guys participating, then running their own CC deal on Sunday. Then, it would work.
Actually, I hope this can be worked out. But, I don't want it at the expense of the CC's uniqueness.
I would rather see this as stated above than to have a mopar's against the world race on a selected day.
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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Scat I haven't never got an answer to the same question, but I have a theory: NSS is supposed to represent the specialty race cars the factory offered, where you had to have a "connection" to get on the list. The AMX's were specially built by Hurst, like the 68 Hemi Darts and Cudas. The big block Darts and Cudas were the Mr Norms doing. Detroit Steel and Tubing made Thunderbolts, there was the COPO stuff etc. They've had to draw the line someplace. please don't take this personally, but every year somebody always want the NSS folks to make an exception "just for me" I've seen requests for everything from small block Novas to Shelby Cobras to AMC SC/Ramblers. I hope this helps, but it won't get your Challenger in though. All that said, i believe the other concern is, if the let the Hemi E-bodys race, they'll have to let the Mustangs and Camaros in too.
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the problem with seperate classes for NSS and Max Wedge is the CC events does not have the time to run them. Also Why, couldnt the brand x be in the points? I dont think everyone realizes that still the majority of cars would be mopars... always is in NSS. The main part is making the sponser happy I agree... but i dont see indy backing down and I think it could definetely draw some more sponsors. NSS is a hot class right now, it is a cheaper way to go glass racing, I think it would be stupid not to do this actually, but then again thats just me. casey
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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IF CC wants more cars at their events, then adjust the rules to allow more CHRYSLER cars to compete. The 63 and 64 max Wedge Cars were sold to the Public just like 69 Six Pack Cars and 70 AAR 6 pack Cars. These had special light weight items and special engines too. Hey I understand the special production thing, but is it a NSS class or a special production car class? IF you are going to allow Hemi cars, why not open it up to ALL Hemi cars up thru 71 year. If they are thinking of allowin GM COPO cars that ANY Chevy dealer could order, then why not allow ANy Mopar as long as it was a performance version. I do not want to see a 318 2 barrell wagon with a 15 second head start running (BORING)but I would like to see the 340 cars and 6 pack cars running. Make it a class from SS/A thru SS/H.
Last edited by scatpack1; 12/18/08 08:11 PM.
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Re: Official CC EVENTS ** ** NSS CLASS --Poll--
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IF CC wants more cars at their events, then adjust the rules to allow more CHRYSLER cars to compete. The 63 and 64 max Wedge Cars were sold to the Public just like 69 Six Pack Cars and 70 AAR 6 pack Cars. These had special light weight items and special engines too. [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] I understand the special production thing, but is it a NSS class or a special production car class? IF you are going to allow Hemi cars, why not open it up to ALL Hemi cars up thru 71 year. If they are thinking of allowin g67 COPO cars that ANY Chevy dealer could order, then why not allow ANy Mopar as long as it was a performance version. i do not want to see a 318 2 barrell wagon with a 15 second head start running (BORING)but I would like to see the 340 cars and 6 pack cars running. Make it a class from SS/a thru SS/H.
They have that class....its called PRO.
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