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Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: gregsdart] #1674168
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I'm sure inquiring heads will want to ask in what ballpark this falls in budget wise. Great heads.
BEST makes great engines and great HP even with less grade heads.

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1674169
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I like the idea of engine builds being put out here but it would be far more interesting if some of the questions posed here were answered, as it's always nice to hear the professional's perspective on what works and what doesn't and why.
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69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: gregsdart] #1674170
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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If it really has 12.5 CR as mentioned in the build spec, that doesn' t sound like "pump gas" to me.

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: BradH] #1674171
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I must have missed where it said pump gas. All I read was street/ strip


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
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Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: BradH] #1674172
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Depends on a few things. bleed off, Quench and aluminum heads make for a more civil compression.
Mine is 12.5 and I can drive it (not race it) with the sh#t they call gas nowadays, but choose not to since all that STUFF added in makes for a dirty sick carb at the end of the day.
I just mix with 100 unleaded that can be bought at some stations with the good Sunoco 112 grape juice as I call it.

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: Cab_Burge] #1674173
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What bore and stroke did you use on this build?




Cab it says 4.5 bore X 4.25 str on the dyno sheet.
Nice build.
Don

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1674174
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I'm sure inquiring heads will want to ask in what ballpark this falls in budget wise. Great heads.
BEST makes great engines and great HP even with less grade heads.




I`ve driven my dart on the street w/local 91 stuff and it was fine but wouldn`t even consider racing that way so I run VP-101 from the pump at Arco which is 97 octane and hopefully is consistent from batch to batch..............


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: dwayne welder] #1674175
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What's it like from, 3000 to 5500????




Dwayne, I would never make a pull 2500 under peak Tq. Here is a sheet from 4500 to 5500. It drove real clean from 2500 to 3500 with a 100 lbs on it

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Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: Thumperdart] #1674176
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What's it like from, 3000 to 5500????




And curious about the leaner that normal afr`s......... Bad azz hombre though.




The AF will vary depending on the cam, comp and fuel. Don't be locked in that 12.75 is the best

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: B3422W5] #1674177
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Chuck.........

Any chance you can post the results of Joe's W5 on the pump after you have it on there? Looking forward to seeing how it does with the new heads on it.




Sure Don as long as its OK with Joe. Its on the dyno now and we will pull it on Monday

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: Cab_Burge] #1674178
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This is living proof on how much power a pump gas motor can make with decent parts What bore and stroke did you use on this build? It looked like the motor wasn't done making power at 7000 RPM I normally pull the motors until I find peak HP




Cab, not pump gas we ran VP 110 our customer likes the smell of race fuel lol! its 4.500 bore and 4.250 stroke. we did pull it higher and it was at peak at 7000

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: PorkyPig] #1674179
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Indy Alum Low Deck Block
Indy 440-1 345CNC Heads, Reworked by us
Indy 400-2 4150 Intake
Quick Fuel 1050 4150
1” HVH Spacer
280ish at .050 Solid Flat Tappet
T&D Single Shaft Rockers 1.6 / 1.6
Pushrod Oiled
Race Tec12.5 to 1 Comp Pistons .043/.043
Compstar 6.535 Rods
K1 4.250 Crank
Roll Master Timing Chain
Charlie’s Oil Pan
Milodon Single Line Oil System




Please tell me that part about it having a Flat Tappet cam is a misprint! Why would someone build an engine with all the rest of the parts listed above, yet not run a roller?




We didn't need to run a roller to get to our HP goals for our customer. He is a older guy and wanted something that would require min maintance

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: deaks] #1674180
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Out of interest, did you try different carbs or spacers ?
Mick




We have done a lot of testing with spacers, on a cast 4bbl intake bigger is better but those dam hoods keep getting in the way

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: Wv68charger] #1674181
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Wait aren't you worried about spinning it that hard...?




Ha Ha, very funny you know we are not afraid to spin them. Don't make me post you build

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #1674182
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Do your results vary when using supersuckers and by bigger i assume you mean the 2" ones. From other posts i've read, the feeling seemed to be that head limited motors benefitted more.
Mick


69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: 6PAK70CUDA] #1674183
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Please tell me that part about it having a Flat Tappet cam is a misprint! Why would someone build an engine with all the rest of the parts listed above, yet not run a roller?




Maybe so they don't have to change valve springs as often? Depends how much "street" is in the street/strip.




You got it, low maintenance and more street than strip

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1674184
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They built me a flat tappet motor just for that, mostly street, some strip tease. No springs needed yet.




Hi Lee, we heard your tearing it up on the east coast

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #1674185
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Area 51 testing LOL.
Missed you guys a couple times around while I was in the D. In and out and back to the mess here. LOL.

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: deaks] #1674186
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Do your results vary when using supersuckers and by bigger i assume you mean the 2" ones. From other posts i've read, the feeling seemed to be that head limited motors benefitted more.
Mick




Yep the 2" 4 hole work good, gives the fuel more time to turn down the port rather than hit the floor of the Manifold. None of the Mopar Intakes have enough plenum volume

Re: 540 Low Deck with 440-1 345CNC Dyno Results [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #1674187
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Wait aren't you worried about spinning it that hard...?




Ha Ha, very funny you know we are not afraid to spin them. Don't make me post you build




I Double dog dare you LOL

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