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Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. #1665684
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I am running a KP block in my drag boat. No block drains so I am pulling an aluminum 1 inch block plug from each bank and installing petcocks. One side came out easy. The other bank will not budge with a 24" breakover bar and 5/8 allen. plugs are going to round out. I have soaked it, tapped on it. Thought about drilling it. Am open for suggestions. I cool with lake water so I need to be able to drain and flush the block.

Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: galen] #1665685
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Can you get an allen head socket on it and try an impact gun. A couple of hits may break it loose.


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Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: galen] #1665686
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I am running a KP block in my drag boat. No block drains so I am pulling an aluminum 1 inch block plug from each bank and installing petcocks. One side came out easy. The other bank will not budge with a 24" breakover bar and 5/8 allen. plugs are going to round out. I have soaked it, tapped on it. Thought about drilling it. Am open for suggestions. I cool with lake water so I need to be able to drain and flush the block.




See if you can heat the area around it.. it might take
some time with the water in it

Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1665687
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We dealt with rust, heat, and water a lot in the steel mill and sometimes we would have to tighten something before it would break loose.


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665688
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I am running a KP block in my drag boat. No block drains so I am pulling an aluminum 1 inch block plug from each bank and installing petcocks. One side came out easy. The other bank will not budge with a 24" breakover bar and 5/8 allen. plugs are going to round out. I have soaked it, tapped on it. Thought about drilling it. Am open for suggestions. I cool with lake water so I need to be able to drain and flush the block.




See if you can heat the area around it.. it might take
some time with the water in it






If I remember right those plugs have a rubber o-ring around them as they are not pipe thread.


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

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Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1665689
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I am running a KP block in my drag boat. No block drains so I am pulling an aluminum 1 inch block plug from each bank and installing petcocks. One side came out easy. The other bank will not budge with a 24" breakover bar and 5/8 allen. plugs are going to round out. I have soaked it, tapped on it. Thought about drilling it. Am open for suggestions. I cool with lake water so I need to be able to drain and flush the block.




See if you can heat the area around it.. it might take
some time with the water in it






If I remember right those plugs have a rubber o-ring around them as they are not pipe thread.




Still wouldnt matter if it is the O-ring style.. see
if he can get the area to expand

Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665690
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If all else fails and if you were planning on a 1/4 inch petcock you could probably center and peen and then drill it with a 27/64 drill bit and tap it for 1/4 inch pipe thread. See if the fitting or pipe nipple fits in the 5/8 allen slot. My preference would be a hex nipple to a pipe collar then the petcock. That would step it out some if you have the room.


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Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1665691
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If he cant get it out he might want to drill and tap
it for a 1/2" pipe and put a bushing in it for 1/4"..
that would clear the hex easy

Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1665692
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Thanks for the suggestions. It is a tapered 1" NPT. Drilling and tapping for 1/4 pipe will work if I can't get it out. If I can get it out I have 1" to 1/2" NPT aluminum bushings with 1/2 inch petcocks. Will try some heat and hit it with my impact.

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Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: galen] #1665693
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Try heating it al little bit with a torch then run a candle around the threads. The heat draws the candle wax down into the threads like solder in sweat joint on plumbing. I have had really good luck removing stuck and broken fasteners this way.

Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: BuckeyeBrawler] #1665694
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Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: galen] #1665695
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Shocking the plug with a hammer can help.


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Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: Clanton] #1665696
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Tried everything suggested including harsh language, (Which I tried first). Got it out. Ended up drilling with a one inch bit then took my time doing 4 cuts out to the threads. Had to break it out.

Re: Need help to remove stubborn screw in freeze plug. [Re: galen] #1665697
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was it corrosion that caused it to seize or did someone put loctite on it?

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It had some type of brown sealer on it. The other side came out easy. Has anti seize on it now.

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It had some type of brown sealer on it. The other side came out easy. Has anti seize on it now.


Good choice, especially on aluminum


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