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Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633078
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You can see on the graph above, where his old engine peaked, we now have over 100 more horsepower. And it's still climbing. The peak horsepower was 649.4. So no, I didn't get what he wanted out of. I could have done the hot oil/ cool coolant deal and easily went past 650, but I ran it like it would be in the car at 170 degree water temp.
These pulls were with the Driven brand 10/30 break in oil, and now I have him on Driven 5/20 conventional so I'm sure thats a gain also.
First day at the track along with a new 8" convertor he ran a string of low 10.60's with a best mph of 127.2
60' times were really soft, 1.55 range driving it like his old combination. The mph should be good for 10.40 something I figure.
Keith

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633079
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Refresh me on the nf69 cam specs. Great job though.

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Sport440] #1633080
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The nf69 is a.426 lobe lift, 304 seat duration, 277 @ .050 on both lobes, 108 lsa cam. I installed it at 102.

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Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633081
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Keith, what does the car weigh with driver?
Nice job, as always


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: B3422W5] #1633082
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It was over 3800 with him. With the taller intake, he went to a glass hood with a scoop on it and lost a little weight. That and a couple other things had him at 3610 at Martin.
When I gave him the engine I had the timing at 34 total and it made more power at 36. If we get it to 60' we have a little room to play with it yet.

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633083
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Wow, those are nice gains, congrats on a great build, he must be happy

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633084
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Keith, you are a stud.. But those yellow wires hurt my eyes. Do you still have it on the pump? I'll send you some wires.. Will the 135 degree boots work on all spark plugs? Are those his headers? Thanks


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Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: sunroofgtx] #1633085
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Nice deal....

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: jim sciortino] #1633086
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Thanks for posting this Keith.
This motor is not dissimilar to my motor, except i have over 12.5.1 comp and the .590 with iron 1.5 rockers. what sort of gains do you think you got from porting the intake ?
Mick


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Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: sunroofgtx] #1633087
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Thanks, Rick! Ill call you this week. Its off the dyno now but whoever his headers( 2" SuperComps)

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633088
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Mick,
I have been seeing20- 30 horsepower or about2 tenths from Porting the Victor. Sorry, was at the track today, slow to respond
Keith

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633089
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Great information and thank you for sharing it with us.

What did you do to button the bottom end up?
Can't believe a camshaft that large and it still only peaks before 6500.

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633090
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I felt the 3800 lb. car should have run 11.80's if the hole in the torque curve wasn't there.
Actually the car was pretty low compression but it impressed a lot of people for a completely stock bottom end.
Keith



I was thinking that should have been a mid 11 sec combo...but like you said w/ an older low compression shortblock and a tight converter, it still ran good.
Really nice gains w/ the new combo!


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Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: sunroofgtx] #1633091
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Keith, you are a stud.. But those yellow wires hurt my eyes. Do you still have it on the pump? I'll send you some wires.. Will the 135 degree boots work on all spark plugs? Are those his headers? Thanks




LOL...HP would have surpassed 650 with some REAL plug wires! Just love the spark plug boots...cute.

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Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: cudadoug] #1633092
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LOL...HP would have surpassed 650 with some REAL plug wires! Just love the spark plug boots...cute.



Geez you buy some wires years ago and everyone gives you grief!! I've been wanting a set of Firecores for some time now, guess its time!!


Scott

69 Satellite, 3650lb street car... Dunnuck Racing pump gas 440. Best of 10:60@127...
Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: viperblue72] #1633093
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Can't believe a camshaft that large and it still only peaks before 6500.



Even with moderate porting, those are still pretty small heads to feed that many cubes at higher rpm.

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633094
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First day at the track along with a new 8" convertor he ran a string of low 10.60's with a best mph of 127.2
60' times were really soft, 1.55 range driving it like his old combination. The mph should be good for 10.40 something I figure.
Keith



Any idea what the track elevation is, or what the air was like at that time?

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: PorkyPig] #1633095
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I cant find the exact track elevation, but it should be around 700 ft. The air was decent, mid 70's low humidity, but the barometric pressure was mediocre.
Sorry I done have exact information. I had tires blow out on my dually and ended up with my open trailer and small truck. All my tools and equipment was left in my enclosed trailer.
Keith

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1633096
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You gave enough for me to get an idea of the conditions at the time. That thing runs good, other than the 60 foot.

Re: Street/Strip pump gas 440 [Re: PorkyPig] #1633097
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I took the car to a local track on TNT night to work on the sixty foot. I was loading the converter at 2000 rpm the first time out. I tried loading it at 2500 and that made all the difference in the world.... Now the converter hits so hard we are working on trying to get it to hook again... I think we may have it figured out now, I'll find out at Kil Kare next weekend!!


Scott

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