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1970 Coronet RT ? #162632 12/05/08 04:12 PM 12/05/08 04:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,294 Under the big sky S stateline OP pro stock
stateline OP pro stock S Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,294 Under the big sky	were the chrome exhaust tips standard on a 70 RT - its not listed on the fender tag , no build sheet

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: stateline] #162633 12/05/08 04:42 PM 12/05/08 04:42 PM
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hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx	No, the tips weren't standard issue........ The code will not be in the fender tag..... But hey, they look great........ A lot of cool pictures of '70's...... http://coronetrt.tripod.com/index.html Last edited by hemi68charger; 12/05/08 04:43 PM. Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: hemi68charger] #162634 12/05/08 06:15 PM 12/05/08 06:15 PM
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Kidsixpack master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,111 Detroit	I thought that they were standard on and R/T or a Super Bee 68-70? They were automatically deleted if the car was headed for CA because of CAFE they required turndown tips. It would be noted on the buidsheet one way or the other! Kind of like wheellip moldings? Standard, but not on the window sticker or tag? Does anyone know fore certain? KID

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Kidsixpack] #162635 12/05/08 06:30 PM 12/05/08 06:30 PM
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Ludington1 master Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,072 Farmland, IN	By the looks of THIS PAGE on Andy440's site, looks to me like they were optional on the 70. But on THIS PAGE it looks like standard on 69 R/T and Super Bee. Andy's site has a ton of great info and pictures! Darren

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Ludington1] #162636 12/05/08 06:39 PM 12/05/08 06:39 PM
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Kidsixpack master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,111 Detroit	Quote: By the looks of THIS PAGE on Andy440's site, looks to me like they were optional on the 70. But on THIS PAGE it looks like standard on 69 R/T and Super Bee. Andy's site has a ton of great info and pictures! Darren Admittedly I'm pretty 69 one dimentional! KID

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Ludington1] #162637 12/05/08 06:41 PM 12/05/08 06:41 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,515 Las Vegas, NV	In 1970 the N42 - "chrome exhaust tips" were a $20.80 option on Coronet R/T and/or Super Bee according to the '70 Dodge Salesman's Pocket Guide (9/69 issue) at Hamtramck Historical.

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Ludington1] #162638 12/05/08 06:43 PM 12/05/08 06:43 PM
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Kidsixpack master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,111 Detroit	Quote: By the looks of THIS PAGE on Andy440's site, looks to me like they were optional on the 70. But on THIS PAGE it looks like standard on 69 R/T and Super Bee. Andy's site has a ton of great info and pictures! Darren I don't see that it says optional? Just that there is a code for it! There is a code weather it's optional or not. It is presented on that sheet as though it is an option? KID

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Kidsixpack] #162639 12/05/08 07:04 PM 12/05/08 07:04 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	[image]http://andy440.com/1970s.htm[/image] It would seem that it was extra cost on Super Bee's, not available in California and standard only on Hemi equipped cars.... Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: DPelletier] #162640 12/05/08 09:18 PM 12/05/08 09:18 PM
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340dart4spd Parts Problem 3 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,476	My understanding is the Bee Hood was a STD option and the Ram Charger was Option you could check off I also beleive that the 150 swipe dash cluster was a Std option and the Rallye dash was a checked off option as well... Also... looking at n96 option it says not avalible with auto... I have a auto car with a N96 HOOD and a N96 code on fender tag... Last edited by R/T 70 Coronet; 12/05/08 09:27 PM.

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: 340dart4spd ] #162641 12/05/08 10:08 PM 12/05/08 10:08 PM
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DodgeMaterial enthusiast Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 243 St. Louis, MO	Ramcharger Hood and Rallye IP were both extra cost options on the R/T. Automatic SPEED CONTROL was not available with the Ramchager Hood, no transmission restrictions. Also, in an R/T when you ordered the Rally IP you got a Tach/Clock combo (tic/toc tach)... but you could order just a tach OR clock (or nothing) with the Standard IP (150mph sweep). Hope this helps... Dave DodgeMaterial - Dave JS29U0B - FK5 - 440-4 Auto WS23V0A - EB5 - 440-6 Auto

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: DPelletier] #162642 12/05/08 11:19 PM 12/05/08 11:19 PM
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Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: It would seem that it was extra cost on Super Bee's, not available in California and standard only on Hemi equipped cars.... Dave No that means Standard on Hemi cars except California Hemi cars. My California R/T 440 and my 70 Superbee 440+6 both have tips on the fender tag.

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: DodgeMaterial] #162643 12/05/08 11:25 PM 12/05/08 11:25 PM
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340dart4spd Parts Problem 3 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,476	Quote: Ramcharger Hood and Rallye IP were both extra cost options on the R/T. Automatic SPEED CONTROL was not available with the Ramchager Hood, no transmission restrictions. Also, in an R/T when you ordered the Rally IP you got a Tach/Clock combo (tic/toc tach)... but you could order just a tach OR clock (or nothing) with the Standard IP (150mph sweep). Hope this helps... Dave That is what I understood also....

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Morty426] #162644 12/06/08 03:17 AM 12/06/08 03:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,453 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,453 So Cal	Quote: Quote: It would seem that it was extra cost on Super Bee's, not available in California and standard only on Hemi equipped cars.... Dave No that means Standard on Hemi cars except California Hemi cars. My California R/T 440 and my 70 Superbee 440+6 both have tips on the fender tag. There a lot of wives tales about Chrome Tips and "California cars". Another thing, what defines a "California car". N95 or sold new in California?? Or are those one in the same 100% of the time?? Do some other states/areas get N95 (like Denver area)?

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: autoxcuda] #162645 12/06/08 04:05 AM 12/06/08 04:05 AM
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Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: Quote: Quote: It would seem that it was extra cost on Super Bee's, not available in California and standard only on Hemi equipped cars.... Dave No that means Standard on Hemi cars except California Hemi cars. My California R/T 440 and my 70 Superbee 440+6 both have tips on the fender tag. There a lot of wives tales about Chrome Tips and "California cars". Another thing, what defines a "California car". N95 or sold new in California?? Or are those one in the same 100% of the time?? Do some other states/areas get N95 (like Denver area)? Why would a Denver car be coded N95? I was more curious as to why that calls out Hemi cars vs. 70 California (N95) E bodies with a hemi or 440+6 got turn downs.

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Morty426] #162646 12/06/08 04:12 AM 12/06/08 04:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,453 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,453 So Cal	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: It would seem that it was extra cost on Super Bee's, not available in California and standard only on Hemi equipped cars.... Dave No that means Standard on Hemi cars except California Hemi cars. My California R/T 440 and my 70 Superbee 440+6 both have tips on the fender tag. There a lot of wives tales about Chrome Tips and "California cars". Another thing, what defines a "California car". N95 or sold new in California?? Or are those one in the same 100% of the time?? Do some other states/areas get N95 (like Denver area)? Why would a Denver car be coded N95? I was more curious as to why that calls out Hemi cars vs. 70 California (N95) E bodies with a hemi or 440+6 got turn downs. I thought Denver had/has emission reg similar to California. They have a smog situation like SoCal. But don't know the time period on that. I didn't want to make the assumption that N95 was only for California sold vehicles. Or L.A. plant built vehicles.

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: autoxcuda] #162647 12/06/08 04:19 AM 12/06/08 04:19 AM
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Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Well my three California Challengers are all built in Hamtrack JS23V JS23V w/ N96 JS23R They all have N95 so they all do not have N42

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Morty426] #162648 12/06/08 04:33 AM 12/06/08 04:33 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,453 So Cal	Quote: Well my three California Challengers are all built in Hamtrack JS23V JS23V w/ N96 JS23R They all have N95 so they all do not have N42 No disputing that. I also remember double taking at Pete Haldiman's old FC7 70 Hemi Challenger with turn downs (where's that car now). I just hear/see a lot of bench race talk about ALL California car not getting tips or ALL LA built cars getting N95.

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: autoxcuda] #162649 12/06/08 05:29 AM 12/06/08 05:29 AM
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Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Quote: Quote: Well my three California Challengers are all built in Hamtrack JS23V JS23V w/ N96 JS23R They all have N95 so they all do not have N42 No disputing that. I also remember double taking at Pete Haldiman's old FC7 70 Hemi Challenger with turn downs (where's that car now). I just hear/see a lot of bench race talk about ALL California car not getting tips or ALL LA built cars getting N95. Well that's just silliness since 340, 383 and 440 cars got tips.

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Morty426] #162650 12/06/08 02:11 PM 12/06/08 02:11 PM
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Quikshft master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,135 Kingsburg Calif.	My old '71 440 Superbee, L.A. built and probably sold new in Fresno. Tag has N41 but no N42;

Re: 1970 Coronet RT ? [Re: Morty426] #162651 12/06/08 02:34 PM 12/06/08 02:34 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,515 Las Vegas, NV	For 1970 CHALLENGER N95 - Evaporative Control System - required on all cars registered in the State of California N.A. otherwise .......... $37.85 N97 - Noise Reduction Package - required on all cars registered in the state of California equipped with 440-6 engines or 426 Hemi .......... N.C. CHARGER N42 - EXHAUST Bright Tips (N.A. California) R/T only .......... $20.80 N95 - Evaporative Control System - required on all cars registered in the State of California N.A. otherwise .......... $37.85 N97 - Noise Reduction Package - required on all cars registered in the state of California equipped with 383-4 or 440 engines .......... N.C. CORONET N42 - EXHAUST Bright Tips (N.A. California) Super Bee & R/T only .......... $20.80 N95 - Evaporative Control System - required on all cars registered in the State of California N.A. otherwise .......... $37.85 N97 - Noise Reduction Package - required on all cars registered in the state of California equipped with 383-4 or 440 engines .......... N.C. DART N95 - Evaporative Control System - required on all cars registered in the State of California N.A. otherwise .......... $37.85 POLARA & MONACO N95 - Evaporative Control System - required on all cars registered in the State of California N.A. otherwise .......... $37.85 This info is taken trom the 1970 Dodge Pocket Salesman's Guide posted on Hamtramck Historical. Does anyone have the '70 PLYMOUTH version? It would be great to see it posted also. Although not written in stone, here's my take: N95 - for any car destined to be "SOLD" new in California, I'm sure some cars with N95 were SOLD new in other states due to dealer trades & sales bank cars that were not in demand in California. Any ordered car that was delivered NEW in the State of California should have N95. N95 concerned the fuel system: fuel tank venting, gas caps, carburetors, etc.. N97 - Noise reduction was accieved in different ways on different body platforms, again California "only". E-body - eliminate N42 "bright exhaust tips" from 440-6 & Hemi cars. B-body - addition of resonators on 383-4 & 440 cars. These are the same resonators found "stock" on Hemi cars. N42 - According to the "pocket guide" none for California in: 440-6 & Hemi Challenger R/Ts 383-4, 440-6 & Hemi Super Bees 440-4, 440-6 & Hemi Charger R/Ts & Coronet R/Ts BUT There are exceptions, I own a LA assembled 440-6 4-spd GTX; fender tag reads: N41 N42 N85 N95 N96 N97 or is that a Plymouth thing?

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