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Father/Son - BB D100 Project #1624555
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My 17 year old son and I are swapping a 440 into the ol' '75 D100 ("Banana Truck"). This project is for him.



We finished the steering/suspension rebuild with van LCA's...



Going to drop the motor and tranny in after painting the firewall Viper yellow...



I know the tall valve covers won't clear the power brake booster so in the interest of keeping things simple (and cheaper) going to swap to manual brakes. I already have a truck manual MC on the shelf. I'm guessing the factory used a studded reinforcing/mounting plate of some kind? Can anyone shed additional light on this?


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I don't recall any re-enforcement place but you can always customers make a plate just bigger than the booster pattern. weld stud or nuts to it or make it thice enough to tap the holes than use a nut on the backside?

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1624557
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Check my thread out as I reinforced the manual MC from front to back.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=4&vc=1

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Thanks for the feedback 76dodgeboy and Hemi-Ram! Looks like the simplest thing will be to fab a mounting plate. But, jeez, I hope we don't end up doing a heater delete too.

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while the front end is blown apart, now would be the best time to add a steering box brace.


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while the front end is blown apart, now would be the best time to add a steering box brace.




Here is a pix of the brace

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Looks good. What did you paint the steering gear with?

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Steering gearbox and frame I used rustoleum satin black. The gray parts you see are just a ceramic primer.

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Steering gearbox and frame I used rustoleum satin black. The gray parts you see are just a ceramic primer.




Gotcha... Next question. Me and my son are fixing up a 81 Power Ram and have it down to the frame like yours. On the firewall, inner fenders, and core support what kind of prep work do you do before painting? We are not building a show truck but still want it to look nice.. Thanks..

Guess what I want to know is am I ok with just cleaning/degreasing everything really good and hitting it with a DA sander then shooting it with body color???

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Is the steering box brace basically a backing plate and strut - factory piece?

We used Rustoleum on the frame too, Duplicolor on other components.

Degreased the firewall (and removed a ton black sealer/undercoat) before hitting it with a DA. Used Rustoleum inside the cowl. Going to prep the inner fenders and core support before spraying some primer on everthing. Going to give Summit Racing's repackaged "whatever" paint a shot on this one (after all my kid will be driving it).

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It is used to support the steering gearbox and I think you might find some on junkyard trucks. I got mine from the dodge connection but I don't see one on his website. Maybe scratch will chime in as he probably knows where you can find one.

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http://www.dodgeconnection.com/catalog/item/2901766/4541374.htm

Currently unavailable. Junkyard or make one

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http://www.dodgeconnection.com/catalog/item/2901766/4541374.htm

Currently unavailable. Junkyard or make one




Thanks, guys.

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I have a friend with a couple of those braces for sale if you want 1.


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here is a stock plate for the outside of firewall MC area with a stock manual brake rod = rod 7" long.

you can get an adjustable rod from mancini. IIRC

I made an alum plate used larger bolts bolting it to firerwall and then 2 bolts thru firewall to a alum 2 bolt MC = stock mc from vac brake bosster.

IMHO I would use the alum 2 bolt MC over a cast iron MC.

I weighed all of my delete and add ons shaving a full 200lbs off the nose of my 88-440truck going manual steer/manual brake/alum intake/alum wp housing/ mimi starter/mini alt/ heater box delete/weld rims

weighs in under 3800lbs now with me in it.


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I have a friend with a couple of those braces for sale if you want 1.




Thanks - how much?

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Thanks for the reference, Scratchn' - appreciate it. The Mancini pushrods are apparently gold plated. But they do come with a retainer...

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I have a friend with a couple of those braces for sale if you want 1.




Thanks - how much?





Waiting to hear from him as to how much. The 2 he has left need some welding/repair where they bolt to the X member..


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I can see using one on an off-road 4x4 but how much difference will one really make on a street truck? Curious.

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I can see using one on an off-road 4x4 but how much difference will one really make on a street truck? Curious.




The past couple a friend of mine and I got from the u-pull-it, came off of 2wd trucks. So the factory was obviously concerned enough to put them on there also. Inspect them where the strut meets the frame plate. We have seen the strut start to crack just past where they are welded. Some guesseting would be a good idea before install.


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I put 1 on my old 81 Shorty. You could feel the difference in the steering wheel when going around corners.


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I can see using one on an off-road 4x4 but how much difference will one really make on a street truck? Curious.




have someone turn the wheels lock to lock at idle,not moving while you watch the how much the box/frame flex under load.

a front sway bar and the brace really firmed up both of my trucks handling in turns and a big improvement for daily driving street duty.

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Interesting. All good valuable feedback - thanks!

340shorty, still interested to hear what your friend wants but I'm going to check my local yard too. There are like, 2 trucks there.

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Just curious. Will a big block brake booster not work???

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Going to give Summit Racing's repackaged "whatever" paint a shot on this one (after all my kid will be driving it).




That's exactly the paint I'm using. Actually nice to shoot. Nice finish.

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Just curious. Will a big block brake booster not work???




still hits. I ran those covers on a low block and I had to unbolt the booster to get the cover off.

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Only two Dodge trucks at my local yard. Neither had the brace.

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anything else good on those trucks??

the small booster is what it would have with a B or RB enegine with stock late mid 70s smogger VC (not the HP tall penthouse VC)

still tight on R&R of VC.

on the mid 80s trucks you can go to the 86 3/4 ton vac booster which is a small one that has the alum 2 bolt MC.

it has been 'said' that you can hammer on the bigger pancake booster to get it to fit a BB in there... but that always looks like a chebby goober with a BFH has worked on dodge.

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There was an '84 Ram with black booster and 2 bolt MC. My understanding is, even with the smaller booster, with (non-factory) tall valve covers you may have to relocate everything up to an inch further away from the engine???

http://www.bouchillonperformance.com/power_brake_boosters

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i've had 2 trucks, that had frame cracks develop at the steering box. after grinding out the crack, and drilling holes at the ends of the cracks, i had them welded up. i then ground down the welds, and used the braces. these were 2wd street trucks. the factory added the brace, after it became clear the frames couldn't handle the stress of the gearbox.


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Just curious. Will a big block brake booster not work???



Bigblock booster is the small diameter. Same that 3/4 tons run and some halftons came with them

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There was an '84 Ram with black booster and 2 bolt MC. My understanding is, even with the smaller booster, with (non-factory) tall valve covers you may have to relocate everything up to an inch further away from the engine???

Black booster? For a 440 you just need to swap in a 3/4 ton booster of the same era truck. All 3/4 tons use the small diameter booster which in the 70s was the same used for 440 trucks. the 383/400 B-Blocks can use the big diameter but tall valve covers may be an issue

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I've been giving some thought to putting on a hydroboost system instead of a booster. First off its a lot smaller (No valve cover problems) and the brakes are way more responsive, especially if you put discs in the back or upgrade to larger discs all the way around. I had this on my 67 Coronet and it was a night and day difference on stopping performance!
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Making some progress. Firewall and core support have been painted Viper Yellow (talk about vibrant), engine and trans in. Prepping the dash frame for paint and repairing the cab floor now.


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Dude you have been busy! That's looking great! What are you doing for wheels? I'm selling my cop car wheels and tires.

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that thing is nice work

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Dude you have been busy! That's looking great! What are you doing for wheels? I'm selling my cop car wheels and tires.




Thanks - I've got a set of 16x8's like the ones on my Duster but we were thinking of running black steelies on the rear with some Mickey T's or something - but tell me more about what you've got.

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that thing is nice work




Thanks, Scratchn'. We're excited to see what we end up with - and debating how long the 8.25 rear might last behind the 440, if only street driven, once we add a Trac lok.

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70Duster440 .....
15x7 and 15x8 Cop car wheels with caps and tires, 215/60/15 front and 275/60/15 rear tires in near new condition. $600 for all

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70Duster440 .....
15x7 and 15x8 Cop car wheels with caps and tires, 215/60/15 front and 275/60/15 rear tires in near new condition. $600 for all




Sending PM - thx

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Dash is "restored". Got rid of excess holes drilled by previous owners, some light bodywork, paint, newer GB door, DIN chassis radio adapter. Looking respectable now. Will probably upgrade to some aftermarket gauges down the road.


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a) Cut X in rivet head, b) Chisel head off, c) Drive out with big hammer and punch, d) Repeat...



The boy removes the rear cross-member to make room for a Mustang fuel tank. Only 8 more rivets to remove to flip the front spring hangers. Now, if we could only find the right Chebby drop shackles with 1/2" bushing holes.

Meanwhile, the joys of rust repair...



Can't wait to do the drivers side. Not!

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while you are removing rivets, why don't you remove the rear hanger and do a shackle flip?

then flip your front one to drop it a tad more.

the one thing I don't like about my drop shackle is the wheel hop I get with the stock/drop shackles and axle under leaf.

with the shackle flipped and axle on the top of leaf I get no wheel hop what so ever under the 440 truck or the stepside.

the drop shackles and 5 speed are giving me fits with the axle under the spring/stock or dropped. the locker will bounce the tires super hard.

I have a set of SSM lift bars that were on the 440 truck and worked great with the mono leafs I had under there but I went back to stock leafs.

I will be flipping the stepside axle back on top of the leafs with the SSM lift bars to control the wheel hop with the 5 speed..I hope

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“…….and debating how long the 8.25 rear might last behind the 440, if only street driven, once we add a Trac lok…….”

Just my but I think it will probably be pretty short lived with a 440, even with reasonably sized street tires. Personally I think I would dig up an 8 ¾ or 9 ¼ before putting any time or effort into the 8 ¼.

If you can’t find a truck axle, the 76-78 full sized Chryslers (Newports and New Yorkers) are exactly the same width as the D100s of the era you’re working on, even take the same size brakes and drums that the factory used when they put them under the D100s. The only real difference is the spring perches are on the bottom of the axle instead of the top. I’m not sure if the perch spacing is the same between trucks and cars but if it is leaving them where they are is good for a 6 inch rear drop. My experience with these is that they are not in high demand and usually sell pretty cheap and you might even get lucky and find one with a Trac Loc.

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the 72-74 4x4 truck 8 3/4 I have is 59" flange to flange with spring perch center at 43" had the 5 on 5.5 wbp

same as my 76-78 Newport/c-body 8 3/4 59" flange to flange with the 5 on 4.5 wbp and I was able to swap them. (spring perch not the same center)

the 67 polara/c-body 8 3/4 I have is 55" flange to flange and tucks a 10" rim real nice in the fender also.

I run the A-body 8 3/4 52" flange to flange IIRC in my 88-440 truck spring perch centers are 43" same as truck. with the shackle flip it bolts right in on top of springs with car shock plates, tucks a 12" wide rim with 4.5 backset with a 29x15x15 M/T in the fenders with tub work. no wheel hop with my fattys

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while you are removing rivets, why don't you remove the rear hanger and do a shackle flip?




You mean install a set of front hangers on the rear, flipped?

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Personally I think I would dig up an 8 ¾ or 9 ¼ before putting any time or effort into the 8 ¼.

If you can’t find a truck axle, the 76-78 full sized Chryslers (Newports and New Yorkers) are exactly the same width as the D100s of the era you’re working on, even take the same size brakes and drums that the factory used when they put them under the D100s.




Good suggestions - and that's part of the conundrum. I'd like an 8.75 but that's not in the budget. And it's pretty slim pickings locally for anything older - truck or passenger. Then there are guys claiming they've run their 8.25 behind a 440 for years "no problem". Hmmmmm....

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while you are removing rivets, why don't you remove the rear hanger and do a shackle flip?




You mean install a set of front hangers on the rear, flipped?




yes, install a set of front hangers on the rear and flip the shackle like the pic I posted.

this will lift a 4x4 4-5 inches with axle under spring and drop 4-5 inches with axle on top of spring.

it will move the spring down allowing room for axle so you do not have to c-notch the frame.

gives the truck a nice stance for the street/track. not too low for street duty.

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here is my stepside with the shackle flip and axle flop.

you can then flip the front hanger to get it a tad lower if you wanted.

with a c-notch you can use a front hanger on the rear upside down and not flip the shackle to get even lower as in scrapin.

I could let one of my 8 3/4 housing/axle go ifin you was interested to ship it that far. have a core chunk that needs rebuilt if you need it also.

would not need much tubbing for the 55" housing 30" axles

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I could let one of my 8 3/4 housing/axle go ifin you was interested to ship it that far. have a core chunk that needs rebuilt if you need it also.

would not need much tubbing for the 55" housing 30" axles




Thanks, Mike! PM sent.

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Some 20ga, a bead roller, a lot of butt welding and some seam sealer (for good measure) - and we have solid floors again. The driver side was really beginning to ventilate, thanks to a windshield leak and rubber mat. Kick panel was starting to rot at the bottom too.


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Truck was lowered in the front with van LCA's. For the rear we're initially going to keep it simple with lowering shackles.

We started with a set of Superior Automotive #13-4100 Lowering Shackles commonly found at O'Reilly's/Autozone - $40. They're a "universal" piece designed for several Chevy's and one late model Dodge. (#13-4200 is for a F150 and even longer).





The first issue is that they require 9/16" fasteners. while all of the related bolts on our D100 are 1/2".

Also, the replacement shackle bushing inner sleeve is a good 1/8" longer than the original, so it won't fit into the hanger without some persuasion.





We drilled out the holes in the hanger to 9/16" (for 1 new 9/16" nut/bolt on each side). Then, using a torch, we heated the hanger and spread it wider to accept the new shackle bushing. It still wouldn't quite fit in and remain square to the bushing so we simply ground each end of the bushing inner sleeve till it was nearly flush with the urethane bushing. Worked great.

The bolt holes in the other end of the shackle need to be properly reduced from 9/16" to 1/2" since that's what the leaf spring bushing requires.

We enlarged the shackle holes to 3/4" with a unibit and welded a 3/4" bushing/spacer (3/4" OD, 3/8" ID x 1/8") found at the hardware store into each hole and then drilled the ID of the spacer to 1/2". Worked perfectly.





Should be good for a 2+ inch drop in the tail. Still leave a slight forward rake.

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good old make it fit.

check pinion angle and see what you got..may need to wiat till bed weight is on there to load the springs.

and seems to be the reason for my wheel hop, nose to far down.

floor looks great.

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Time to get a fuel tank sorted out. Got rid of the cab tank a long time ago and hated the frame mounted poly.

Started with a 22 gal. tank kit from Mustangs Unlimited (Ebay) that includes a sender and filler coupler - $125 delivered.

It easily fits between the frame rails with no interference (except for the rear crossmember which we temporarily removed).





Fabbed a perimeter frame for the tank with 10 foot piece of 1" x 1" x .120" wall tubing ($20). Used existing holes in the tank flange to mount it to the frame.





Added mounting tabs made from 3/16" flat stock and mounted the frame just forward of where the frame rails begin to kick up. Wanted to be sure the filler neck would not interfere with the rear-most brace on the bed. Filling will be accomplished via a trap door in the bed floor.





Nuts welded to the inside of the frame rails will make dropping the tank super easy. Four 7/16" bolts secure the assembly to the truck frame. Bolted in place, it should act as a lower/partial cross-member.



The upper half of the original cross member was cut away and then bolted back into it's original position - between the two rear leaf spring hangers. It'll clear the tank and help keep the frame rails parallel.

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I'm digging everything you're doing. Very well done. I'm also taking notes for my own stepside.

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do you have a part number for the Van control arms you used to lower your truck? I am assuming they were 1500 control arms. I am looking to lower my 78 in the near future.

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do you have a part number for the Van control arms you used to lower your truck? I am assuming they were 1500 control arms. I am looking to lower my 78 in the near future.




From RockAuto they were Dorman part nos: 520335 (520-335) and 520336 (520-336) - still available for about $78 each.

As mentioned in other threads you have to: remove the steering arm bump stop, drill for the strut rod, enlarge the bushing bolt hole in the frame, and remove some material around the bushing flange.

(Spring in the photo were my originals).


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That's really looking good Preston!

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do you have a part number for the Van control arms you used to lower your truck? I am assuming they were 1500 control arms. I am looking to lower my 78 in the near future.




From RockAuto they were Dorman part nos: 520335 (520-335) and 520336 (520-336) - still available for about $78 each.

As mentioned in other threads you have to: remove the steering arm bump stop, drill for the strut rod, enlarge the bushing bolt hole in the frame, and remove some material around the bushing flange.

(Spring in the photo were my originals).





Thanks for the info. This will help me out on mine. Nice Job you are doing.

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Thanks, Mark and Bruce. Wish I had a magic wand to move things along - quickly approaching more paint and body and it's my least favorite thing to do.

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hey thanks for the reply, i ordered some last night on rock auto, along with some new bushings for the upper control arms. Do you remember the size of the bolt needed to mount the van control arms? i am guessing its bigger since you needed to drill the hole larger. Your project looks awesome so far, i will likely copy you on the gas tank too. Mine has been patched many times, and my sender doesnt work anyway. Keep up the good work

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hey thanks for the reply, i ordered some last night on rock auto, along with some new bushings for the upper control arms. Do you remember the size of the bolt needed to mount the van control arms? i am guessing its bigger since you needed to drill the hole larger. Your project looks awesome so far, i will likely copy you on the gas tank too. Mine has been patched many times, and my sender doesnt work anyway. Keep up the good work




No problem, thanks! You've got to open LCA bolt holes to 3/4" - which is fast and easy with a step drill bit. Picked a couple of grade 8 bolts and lock nuts at the hardware store (Ace).

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I bought this truck 20 years ago from a wrecking yard. It was a running beater then and I figured it always would be.

She was purchased new in Spokane as a vehicle for a utility company and since then has acquired a lot of "makeup" over time. Came from the factory kind of a pale yellow. At some point it was repainted an orange-y school bus yellow. The wrecking yard, I think, did some spot repairs with that horrible old red oxide lacquer primer before spraying the whole thing yet again with yellow lacquer.



So, out comes the paint stripper. The old re-finishes almost fell off leaving a good factory base in places. We coaxed it to bare metal where it counts. Chemical burns were a bonus.

We'll get some epoxy on the outside and more yellow in the inside.

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Dash is "restored". Got rid of excess holes drilled by previous owners, some light bodywork, paint, newer GB door, DIN chassis radio adapter. Looking respectable now. Will probably upgrade to some aftermarket gauges down the road.






NICE!!!

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Hey Preston, Hows that truck coming? I was wondering if you got the fill hose hooked up on your gas tank? Mine is going to be tight since I'm using the stock rear location to fill the tank.

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I need an update on this truck build.

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Sorry to leave folks hanging. The project slowed some going into fall and winter, but here's a recap of what's been over the past several months....

After the cab was stripped (above), we get it in primer....



Time flies and when February rolls around, it's time to get stripping. I farm donor fenders and doors out to a friend of mine to body work (since I hate body work)...



When the weather improves, the bed sides are stripped. One side's a mess with previous crash damage and repairs. Cancer is cut out of the 'good side' and patched. The fuel filler goes bye-bye. We later media blasted the inside of the bed. That's a sucky job.





Wheel tubs get relocated for bigger tires and future rear suspension mods...







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Roll pan and new fuel filler door are next. In an earlier post I showed how we installed a Mustang tank between the rails at the rear. Now it was matter of cutting an opening for the new door for access to the filler neck.

The hose, neck, and cap for the tank are from Tanks Inc...



Cut out a section of bed and added some tubing that ties to the two rear cross members in the bed and adds strength. Ribs in the bed are transitioned...



Additional structure with smaller tubing creates the opening for the door...



16 ga. filler panel goes in...



A view of the underside of the structure...



The seams are finish welded and ground...



The door flap is hinged...



Opens nicely....



Creative use of an 'invisible' hinge designed for kitchen cabinets...



I have to credit my son, Austin (18) for doing most of the fab and welding on the fuel door project.

A shot of the roll pan that helps clean up this old girls' behind...



The bodywork progresses. Our goal is to shoot some color during the Labor Day weekend.

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Looking very nice!

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If you don't mind my asking, what calipers are you using on the front brakes? I saw they were red in one of the pics you posted. I am looking for something to upgrade over the factory pieces. Thanks.

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Originally Posted By mgoblue9798
If you don't mind my asking, what calipers are you using on the front brakes? I saw they were red in one of the pics you posted. I am looking for something to upgrade over the factory pieces.


They're just painted factory calipers - sorry.

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Looking awesome guys.


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Thanks for the reply. Truck looks really nice. I hope to get started on mine soon. It belonged to my Dad. I plan to go through the entire thing much the same as you guys. Best of luck on the rest of your build.

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Your truck is looking great,..can i ask you what paint did you use on the metal dash ???,..i looks good,.not to shiney not to flat,...im ready to shot mine right now,..thanks for your help,..Frank

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Originally Posted By B1Frank
Your truck is looking great,..can i ask you what paint did you use on the metal dash ???,..i looks good,.not to shiney not to flat,...im ready to shot mine right now,..thanks for your help,..Frank


In this case, my local paint supplier had a kit in stock. It's Sherwin Williams - Hot Rod Satin Black - PCSCQ3. Included a quart of black, hardener, strainer, etc. It did come out nice with just the right amount of sheen. Probably only used a pint.

Here's the same product on a couple of sites:

http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/665744/01036
http://www.jegs.com/i/Sherwin-Williams-Automotive-Finishes/334/PCQK3/10002/-1

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Thanks a bunch,..That is what i will use,..very nice to see you and your son getting it dune,..it looks Great,!!..i know it is one long road,...good luck and God-bless...

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Thanks, Frank!

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Viper Yellow in all its glory! What you can't see behind the camera is the cab, hood, inner fenders, hood hinges.... on and on. Made for a loooong day!




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Now that's a pretty yellow truck right there

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I'm not a fan of yellow but the father son thing makes it so cool!


Have a great day
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"obsolete is neat"

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Originally Posted By Iowan
I'm not a fan of yellow but the father son thing makes it so cool!


Thanks. Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of yellow either, but the truck's been in the family for 20 years or so and has always been known as the 'Banana Truck' so we stayed true to the color - just amped it up.

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Very Very nice,...People will see that going down the ROAD,..lol

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Scratchy will like this!

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Looking good.
It is a good color choice.

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Looks great! Can't wait to see it in person.

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I can't stop from checking every day for more progress pics!!

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bump bump
I curious to see if you put the truck together yet.

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Thanks for asking, 77ProStreet. Since painting we've been preparing for winter, working on our shop (upgrades) and such. The plan is to get it back together over the winter months, but not before dropping the rear ride height some more.

Will try to post some pics as it goes back together.

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Originally Posted By Jwilli500
Scratchy will like this!


MAN! you got that right. at first I thought yellow cant work on a truck.

hard to tell when it is in pieces...but when it all bolts together and becomes a truck.. WOW!

are you going with a butt stripe on the rear? black hood?

I always do a hot rod black on the hood to keep there glare down. a gloss yellow hood will have lots of shine/glare in the sun.

yellow in the rain.jpg
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are you going with a butt stripe on the rear? black hood?


Yup, planning some kind of butt stripe. Not sure on the hood yet.

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Ooops. Son took a little detour in the project to install a Ridetech 4-link...






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Progress - such as it is. Dividing our time on the interior.


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Nice an clean. Looks Awesome!

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Fresh Raybestos e-brake (stock) cables from Rock Auto plug right into the GM metric calipers. Just had to remove some of the spring. Way better than the crusty old cables.


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Originally Posted By 77ProStreet
Nice an clean. Looks Awesome!


Thanks! Getting closer...

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Interior nearly finished with custom console. Race buckets will flank.




'Leather' wrapped. Brushed aluminum, B&M ratchet shifter, obligatory cup holder.



About time to hang some sheet metal.

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Truck is looking sweet. Tell your son when he's done working on his truck, he can come over and work on mine. grin

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That is really nice!! I am jealous, my daily driver is going to get a bath for the Spring Roundup and that is about it. I am going to stay with a small block in the '87 and the Ramcharger will have the big block.


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Is That a Mustang Gas tank ?

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Thanks, guys! Scannman70, yes, that's a mustang tank.

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I like it..........a lot.

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Here's another with the seats in place. We're re-working the dash insert and gauges.

Anybody have an int. rear view mirror with good glass to sell?






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We lit off the engine for the first time and broke in the cam (on fathers day, appropriately). A couple of minor glitches but in the end it and the trans are alive, well and sounding healthy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw0H133GUyQ

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Congrats! It sounds "Healthy" You and your son communicate and interact well with each other. Pretty special. up

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Originally Posted By Jwilli500
You and your son communicate and interact well with each other. Pretty special. up


Thanks! He's a good kid - but I can't really call him a kid any more.

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That is a great example of a Father/Son team at work!! Glitches and all, that is how it is done.

I can remember firing up a fresh Ford 400 and C6 trans in the company ramp truck. My boss and I spent all the first moments tending the engine and forgot to top off the transmission with fluid. We roasted the new seals in the transmission whiney Argh!! Two weeks later and another trans build, he was out there towing. You always learn more from your mistakes, than when every thing goes as planned.

I love your video and will post a link to it in my newsletter. When everything is all together and broken in, you need to make a trip to Renegade to see how it does on the track.


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Thanks, man! He's looking forward to getting it to a track when ready.

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Awesome video guys!
Sounds great, can"t wait to see in person!

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Man! I love the build. Kinda gave me a kick in the pants to get back onto my 84. I've been searching for a rear mount fuel tank setup (other than a fuel cell or RC donor) and ran across your setup.. super clean! I'll be copying the tank mounting/setup, so huge thanks for sharing.

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The countdown to completion has begun (no, really!).

After finding color mismatches between various panels and a multi-week setback to gut and respray everything (base/clear and even yellowier), we're back on track.



Sheetmetal hung, doors loaded.



Made new arm rests. Bottom is one of the old, nasty ones. Middle is a wooden slug. Top is slug wrapped in 'leather'.



Door panel "restored" with bed-liner, paint, and arm rest.



More meat for the rear.



Off to the glass shop earlier today for a windshield install.

More to come over the next couple of weeks.

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where and how much on the M/Ts? glad I checked out the newest progress pics. that thing is really NICE!

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Door panels look great! Inovative restoration tec. on those. Might try that myself. Great tip.

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Originally Posted By scratchnfotraction
where and how much on the M/Ts? glad I checked out the newest progress pics. that thing is really NICE!



Followed your advice on the MT's but got them through Summit as part of another order. Paid $321 I believe.

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Originally Posted By wedgeheaded
Door panels look great! Inovative restoration tec. on those. Might try that myself. Great tip.


Thanks. It worked well for us.

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good deal. no burnouts and they should last a long time.

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Originally Posted By scratchnfotraction
good deal. no burnouts and they should last a long time.


Now, I don't know how well the boy will follow that advice. Ha!

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Fresh coats of Raptor-Liner - hides a multitude of sins....

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luv them tubs. and yes it does.

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Another step closer. Off to the muffler shop to close up the open exhaust.





Short clip of it in motion...

https://youtu.be/KOT9TFoc56s

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My son works at a powder coat and fab shop (spyderindustries.com) so we worked the dents out of this tired grille and powder coated it. Not perfect, by any means (getting the defects out), but a huge improvement over what it looked like before. Stripping, sanding, and polishing the old one just wasn't practical. We'll paint the blacked out areas back in.


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That looks really nice. up
Will even be better with the black out.
I have the same grill in rather poor shape.
I'm hoping to it get half that nice.
The whole project is turning out great.
It's been fun to watch the progress.
Thanx.
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I like it!! Thanks for giving me the idea to make mine nicer. Truck is looking AWESOME!

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Originally Posted By 77ProStreet
I like it!! Thanks for giving me the idea to make mine nicer. Truck is looking AWESOME!


Thanks, man. How's yours coming along?

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It's been slow this past year, but finally got it running and a few things wrapped up with some help from a friend. Once it comes back from paint....FULL STEAM AHEAD

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Another shot of grille showing comparison...


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Finally wrapping things up. We set a goal and deadline to be primarily complete (for now) in time for a local car show called Wings & Wheels yesterday.

Very brief video clip in transit to the show...

https://youtu.be/xVsiCvGMgoM

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Dang! the truck turned out beautiful. up

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Very nice.

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Thanks guys!

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Nice truck! What year Mustang tank did you use? I'd like to do that mod on my '85 D-150 and ditch the plastic tank

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: tt76400] #2175288
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Originally Posted By tt76400
Nice truck! What year Mustang tank did you use? I'd like to do that mod on my '85 D-150 and ditch the plastic tank


I don't recall the exact years for the application - 60-something. It's a 22 gal tank from Mustangs Unlimited (via ebay). It came with a sender and even has a drain plug. Details are here: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1624555/3.html

The rubber neck and cap we used came from Tanks Inc.



All this required some kind of vent system which we did by running a line from the filler neck over and up inside the bedside.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #2221394
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Originally Posted By 70Duster440
Progress - such as it is. Dividing our time on the interior.

what kind of coil overs did you end up using?

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Quote:
what kind of coil overs did you end up using?


QA1's

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #2259803
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Originally Posted By 70Duster440


Fresh coats of Raptor-Liner - hides a multitude of sins....


Did you shoot that or roll it on? and how many coats?

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Raptor-Liner uses a catalyst and is sprayed with a Shutz gun. My son sprayed it - two coats, I believe. Some kits come with the Shutz gun. A paint/body guy I know recommended laying a black base coat first to ensure color didn't show through anywhere. Don't know if it's really necessary but we did it anyway with black epoxy.

We really like the look of it and would use it again.

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My son says he'd consider it one heavy coat, not two.

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Would you happen to have more pictures of when you did the 4 linkinstall. I just ordered the same kit for mine and trying to see where to set it.

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