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Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 340SHORTY] #1624575
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I can see using one on an off-road 4x4 but how much difference will one really make on a street truck? Curious.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624576
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I can see using one on an off-road 4x4 but how much difference will one really make on a street truck? Curious.




The past couple a friend of mine and I got from the u-pull-it, came off of 2wd trucks. So the factory was obviously concerned enough to put them on there also. Inspect them where the strut meets the frame plate. We have seen the strut start to crack just past where they are welded. Some guesseting would be a good idea before install.


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Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #1624577
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I put 1 on my old 81 Shorty. You could feel the difference in the steering wheel when going around corners.


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Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624578
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I can see using one on an off-road 4x4 but how much difference will one really make on a street truck? Curious.




have someone turn the wheels lock to lock at idle,not moving while you watch the how much the box/frame flex under load.

a front sway bar and the brace really firmed up both of my trucks handling in turns and a big improvement for daily driving street duty.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1624579
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Interesting. All good valuable feedback - thanks!

340shorty, still interested to hear what your friend wants but I'm going to check my local yard too. There are like, 2 trucks there.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624580
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Just curious. Will a big block brake booster not work???

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624581
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Going to give Summit Racing's repackaged "whatever" paint a shot on this one (after all my kid will be driving it).




That's exactly the paint I'm using. Actually nice to shoot. Nice finish.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: Mopar2DBone] #1624582
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Just curious. Will a big block brake booster not work???




still hits. I ran those covers on a low block and I had to unbolt the booster to get the cover off.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624583
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Only two Dodge trucks at my local yard. Neither had the brace.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624584
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anything else good on those trucks??

the small booster is what it would have with a B or RB enegine with stock late mid 70s smogger VC (not the HP tall penthouse VC)

still tight on R&R of VC.

on the mid 80s trucks you can go to the 86 3/4 ton vac booster which is a small one that has the alum 2 bolt MC.

it has been 'said' that you can hammer on the bigger pancake booster to get it to fit a BB in there... but that always looks like a chebby goober with a BFH has worked on dodge.

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1624585
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There was an '84 Ram with black booster and 2 bolt MC. My understanding is, even with the smaller booster, with (non-factory) tall valve covers you may have to relocate everything up to an inch further away from the engine???

http://www.bouchillonperformance.com/power_brake_boosters

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624586
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i've had 2 trucks, that had frame cracks develop at the steering box. after grinding out the crack, and drilling holes at the ends of the cracks, i had them welded up. i then ground down the welds, and used the braces. these were 2wd street trucks. the factory added the brace, after it became clear the frames couldn't handle the stress of the gearbox.


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Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: Mopar2DBone] #1624587
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Just curious. Will a big block brake booster not work???



Bigblock booster is the small diameter. Same that 3/4 tons run and some halftons came with them

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624588
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There was an '84 Ram with black booster and 2 bolt MC. My understanding is, even with the smaller booster, with (non-factory) tall valve covers you may have to relocate everything up to an inch further away from the engine???

Black booster? For a 440 you just need to swap in a 3/4 ton booster of the same era truck. All 3/4 tons use the small diameter booster which in the 70s was the same used for 440 trucks. the 383/400 B-Blocks can use the big diameter but tall valve covers may be an issue

Re: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1624589
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I've been giving some thought to putting on a hydroboost system instead of a booster. First off its a lot smaller (No valve cover problems) and the brakes are way more responsive, especially if you put discs in the back or upgrade to larger discs all the way around. I had this on my 67 Coronet and it was a night and day difference on stopping performance!
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Progress: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624590
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Making some progress. Firewall and core support have been painted Viper Yellow (talk about vibrant), engine and trans in. Prepping the dash frame for paint and repairing the cab floor now.


Re: Progress: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624591
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looking good

Re: Progress: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 70Duster440] #1624592
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Dude you have been busy! That's looking great! What are you doing for wheels? I'm selling my cop car wheels and tires.

Re: Progress: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 77ProStreet] #1624593
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that thing is nice work

Re: Progress: Father/Son - BB D100 Project [Re: 77ProStreet] #1624594
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Dude you have been busy! That's looking great! What are you doing for wheels? I'm selling my cop car wheels and tires.




Thanks - I've got a set of 16x8's like the ones on my Duster but we were thinking of running black steelies on the rear with some Mickey T's or something - but tell me more about what you've got.

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