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Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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I am getting a new oil pan for my small block to replace my kevko pan (Barely holds 5 quarts in the pan!). In specific I am looking at the Milodon 8 quart pan (p# 30940) and the 7 quart low pro version (p#30941). My Kevko pan from top rail to the bottom of the sump is 8". The 8 quart Milodon is 8-3/4". The 7 quart is 7-3/4", so slightly shorter then my Kevko. There is a drastic difference in price, with the low pro pan being more expensive (and also having a raised rear portion behind the sump which seems strange to me as it might trap oil, but according to Milodon helps oil control?). I am struggling in deciding which pan to go with. I don't think another 3/4 of an inch will give me any clearance issues, and both pans are SUPPOSED to clear my TTI 1-7/8 race headers. I am wondering what others are running, what their ground clearance is like, and more importantly, if the insides of the pans are different at all? I don't mind spending the extra money on the low pro IF the oil control inside is better (and the shorter height overall is obviously a bonus also). Here is a link to the Milodon website (the sb pans are at the bottom of this page) http://www.milodon.com/oil-pans/street-oil-pans-chrys.asp
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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I am using a Milodon pan and TTIs with no issues. Very happy with everything so far. I am fairly low in front with no issues for clearance so far, well aside from the headers dragging on the trailer stuff.
edit* I should add that it is the 8 qt. Drag car only.
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Better get inside Ma. Looks like a storm's comin'.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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My old hookers tended to drag on the trailer (The collectors) but the new TTi's should be better. Here is a pic of the ground clearance I had with the kevko...as I said, I don't think 3/4 of an inch will make much of a difference, but I am also concerned about the internal design of the pans. What is the 8qt like on the inside? 
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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I have the 7 quart in what appears to be an older version. Mine does not have that little kick up area behind the sump, its flat there. Clears my TTI headers with zero trouble but did require a small notch on flat lip of the K-frame nothing major.
My car sits pretty low and I would be afraid to go to the deeper pan. Mainly because I live in Oklahoma and our roads are terrible.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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I have the 7 quart in what appears to be an older version. Mine does not have that little kick up area behind the sump, its flat there. Clears my TTI headers with zero trouble but did require a small notch on flat lip of the K-frame nothing major.
My car sits pretty low and I would be afraid to go to the deeper pan. Mainly because I live in Oklahoma and our roads are terrible.
I should have mentioned I sectioned a section out of my k-frame back when I first assembled the car, so this pan should clear with no problems.
Our roads are torn up here pretty bad also. I have thought about lowering my car a tad more once I switch to the TTI's this year (they might tuck up tighter then the hookers I had pictured) but I am fine with the ride height as is.
Do you have a pic of the 7 quart pan on your car to get an idea of ground clearance??
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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Quickest reference I could find.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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Quickest reference I could find.
That pic definitely does help 
And you weren't kidding when you said your car is low lol
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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yeah, it looks cool but needs to be higher. I keep putting off buying new mono springs(has -1s on it now).
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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Go w/ the low profile pan. 1" is huge when it comes to oil pan ground clearance on a street driven car.  I had a deep sump Milodon pan on my Hemi...at the time I built the motor they didn't make a low profile pan for the external p/u systems. After smashing it up a few times I got tired of repairing it. Last year when I freshened it up I bought a new low profile pan for it. Very happy I did.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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Go w/ the low profile pan. 1" is huge when it comes to oil pan ground clearance on a street driven car.
I had a deep sump Milodon pan on my Hemi...at the time I built the motor they didn't make a low profile pan for the external p/u systems. After smashing it up a few times I got tired of repairing it.
Last year when I freshened it up I bought a new low profile pan for it. Very happy I did.
Really would depend on the headers... if the headers
are lower than the pan then it doesnt matter.. I tend
to build my headers to protect the pan... I build my
pans and headers so I can replace either but I dont
want the pan getting ripped open.. this is on my Rampage
and I built a 9 qt pan... baffles and trap doors inside it
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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The headers won't be a factor if you scrape a crown in the road.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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Down here we get bad crowns and ruts on a lot of the roads at redlights due to the summer heat and beach traffic. In some areas they are unavoidable. In that type of situation, the headers will not be any help shielding the pan. All depends on how low your car is and what type of roads you drive on. I'll take the shortest possible pan.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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The Milodon low pro pan isn't that low 
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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I run the 30940. Had to notch the K member in my application. Hangs just below the K member also. The center link just touches the back of the pan on hard ( lock to lock ) turns.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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The roads here are pure crap also, and I have learned to adjust my driving to them. You guys make up some good points about ground clearance, but that strange design at the back of the 7 quart pan just doesn't make sense to me, and as mentioned, not sure how that oil would ever drain out of the pan when changing the oil.
I actually did call Kevko about customizing the current pan. It would start at $75, plus shipping there and back...however, my biggest concern is capacity. I poured the kevko last night, and with 5 quarts it started to come out of the sump and into the rest of the pan. The most I could add in depth would be 1" (that would make it level with the milodon 8 quart) and not sure what I can do with kickouts since I want it to fit my TTI's. Kevko was really nice, but told me 1" will probably only net me 3/4 of a quart, not to mention I'll need a longer/custom pickup to now go the extra depth of the pan. I am leaning away from this option the more I think about it.
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nuther pic.
Flyfish's car and yours both look to have pretty good clearance in terms of how low the pan hangs..of course, the concern is bumps and suspension compressing.
I am not sure if the TTi's will be lower then the pan...I am like Mr. P, I like to use the headers to shield oil pan that way they are hit first and not a critical area like the oil pan instead.
Dustin, if you could take pictures of yours or measure tonight I would GREATLY appreciate it!
John, the canton in your duster, is that a center sump pan? Have a part # handy?
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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QUOTE - (and also having a raised rear portion behind the sump which seems strange to me as it might trap oil, but according to Milodon helps oil control?).
That bugs me, too. I have that pan on the shelf slated to go on my motor but even if it does control oil, the oil in that area will never get drained when changing it.
I just bought a Kevko 5 quart for a 340 I'm doing for someone and was actually considering it for my deal rather than the Milodon. I have heard from others about sucking that pan dry though with a high volume pump, so we're going with a standard volume pump with a small shim to gain some pressure.
Which pump did you run with your Kevko pan, might I ask?
I ran 5 quarts, with the filter and standard volume pumps with high pressure springs.
This past year I ran an HV pump, but I also had an external filter and lines that gave me another 2 quarts of oil capacity for a total of 7.
The kevko is a nice pan, but after pouring it, I wouldn't even say it holds 5 quarts. The guy at kevko told me you should only fill to the level plug, and that on my pan was just over 4 quarts when pouring it, so technically 5 in the pan is overfilling it.
Nice pan, but I definitely don't consider it a race piece
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Canton Pan wont wont work in a stock suspension car.
I figured that...I was looking at that pan yesterday but ruled it out due to the front sump, but thought maybe John was using a different canton pan
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Matt is running the wedge shaped Milidon pan on his Duster with his stock front suspension. I know he did some minor trimming to the K member and major work with a 4 pound hammer on the Hedmen headers.
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He is also using an engine plate but the engine is if I remember right in the stock position as he is using the stock tranny mount. I figured I better add this info.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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I ran my car for the first time last weekend with the Canton oil pan I bought from Summit. Its the same depth as the wedge shaped Milidon pan I rep[laced but I wouldn't of had to beat the crap out of my Headmen headers if I would have bought this one years ago.
Damn! I had no clue Canton made a SBM pan!! It looks like a better deal for the $$ than the Kevko piece. Maybe I don't want my Milodon pan. 
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Canton Pan wont wont work in a stock suspension car.
I figured that...I was looking at that pan yesterday but ruled it out due to the front sump, but thought maybe John was using a different canton pan
What?? The Canton street/strip pan is a front sump yes, but so is every other pan out there for that app. Look at the Milodon, the Moroso and yes...the Kevko. The Canton pan looks to me like it will fit a OE K-member just fine. Probably better than the low-pro Milodon.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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Canton Pan wont wont work in a stock suspension car.
I figured that...I was looking at that pan yesterday but ruled it out due to the front sump, but thought maybe John was using a different canton pan
What?? The Canton street/strip pan is a front sump yes, but so is every other pan out there for that app. Look at the Milodon, the Moroso and yes...the Kevko. The Canton pan looks to me like it will fit a OE K-member just fine. Probably better than the low-pro Milodon.
I don't know man, thats why I asked...I don't want to buy it though and find out it doesn't work.
The moroso and milodon do look like front sump, but are listed as center sump, the canton is listed as front sump 
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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With a stock K most of the "off the shelf" pans are not going to offer a whole lot of volume changes being most are made with the available headers in mind. Basically the only place you are going to have room is straight down.... We ran the Milodon low pro pan on our 340 block based W5 mill when we ran the stock front suspension and I believe we were only running 5qts in that and never had any oiling issues.
I like the idea of "low pro", but check out the link below with the 360 degree view....I am just not a fan of how the low pro pan has a raised then lowered rear pan floor. Was your pan like this? Seems like a good way to trap oil and never have it get used again
http://www.summitracing.com/dom/parts/mil-30941/overview/
To be honest, I am sure 5 quarts of oil is probably enough. But more oil equals cooler oil (which i need with a half filled block on the street) as well as having sufficient oil quantity at higher rpms
After pouring the pan on my kevko I am just not impressed that 5 quarts ends up with oil coming out of the sump and sitting on the pan floor- not what I want with a big 4" arm swinging in there
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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Big 4" Why not just run the same pan and an oil cooler? Rod
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Why not just run the same pan and an oil cooler?
Rod
LOL Rod, get your mind outta the gutter!
I don't want to run a cooler, not a fan of the idea to be honest.
This whole thread really begs the question though- how much oil does one really need to run? Many only run 6 quarts in deep 7 or 8 qt pans...This is a street car and strip, but is the Kevko pan enough, atleast with a standard volume pump? It would seem to me no, but I am no expert
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I have been running the Kevco pan for 2 years and probably 200 passes at 6800 with a standard pump and I have had no issues so far. I just upgraded my fuel system and i will probably go up to 7000 rpm. Mine is 3.79 stroke 394 ci.
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I have been running the Kevco pan for 2 years and probably 200 passes at 6800 with a standard pump and I have had no issues so far. I just upgraded my fuel system and i will probably go up to 7000 rpm. Mine is 3.79 stroke 394 ci.
How much oil do you run in the pan? in the filter?
I have thought about keeping the kevko, running a standard volume pump again, and seeing what happens when I hit 7000rpm on a regular basis on nitrous...But I am worried at the same time about what could happen
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I run mine with 6-6.5 quarts.
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Milodon 8 qt pan.
Custom headers? Or TTI?
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I run mine with 6-6.5 quarts.
I have been told that with filter and pan a kevko can hold 6 quarts
Really though, what is "enough" is the question?
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I have been running the Kevco pan for 2 years and probably 200 passes at 6800 with a standard pump and I have had no issues so far. I just upgraded my fuel system and i will probably go up to 7000 rpm. Mine is 3.79 stroke 394 ci.
How much oil do you run in the pan? in the filter?
I have thought about keeping the kevko, running a standard volume pump again, and seeing what happens when I hit 7000rpm on a regular basis on nitrous...But I am worried at the same time about what could happen
I am running 5 1/2 right now. I will probably run 6 if I up the RPM's.
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: Crizila]
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05/02/14 04:23 AM
05/02/14 04:23 AM
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Brian Hafliger
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Only way you'll ever pump the pan dry is if it's pumped into the heads! At any rpm, this is the only way that can happen.
Too much oil will get pulled up by the crank and airate the oil, super heat the oil around the crank, and eventually starve the pump with cavitation.
You really have to pour a pan and check them for how much they'll hold under the baffling, then add the proper amount back for the oil galleys and filter. Try pouring a 7Qt pan and see how much is actually held in the sump...you'll be amazed!!
Brian Hafliger
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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05/02/14 11:07 AM
05/02/14 11:07 AM
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MattW
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Quote:
Only way you'll ever pump the pan dry is if it's pumped into the heads! At any rpm, this is the only way that can happen.
Too much oil will get pulled up by the crank and airate the oil, super heat the oil around the crank, and eventually starve the pump with cavitation.
You really have to pour a pan and check them for how much they'll hold under the baffling, then add the proper amount back for the oil galleys and filter. Try pouring a 7Qt pan and see how much is actually held in the sump...you'll be amazed!!
This is what I did with my 416.
Took the measurement from the bottom of the crank throws. Transfered this to my pan, filled the pan to the line and measured how much.
8 Litre and one litre for the rest.
This was with a Milodon pan.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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05/02/14 09:13 PM
05/02/14 09:13 PM
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Crizila
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Quote:
Only way you'll ever pump the pan dry is if it's pumped into the heads! At any rpm, this is the only way that can happen.
Too much oil will get pulled up by the crank and airate the oil, super heat the oil around the crank, and eventually starve the pump with cavitation.
You really have to pour a pan and check them for how much they'll hold under the baffling, then add the proper amount back for the oil galleys and filter. Try pouring a 7Qt pan and see how much is actually held in the sump...you'll be amazed!!
I did that, including the engine angle as it sits in the car. With 7 qts, I was well under the tray and pan baffle. This was with a static engine and no oil in the filter, so running, the oil level clearance to the crank would be greater. I had no way of measuring that as I don't know how much a running small block holds above the crank. I won't even go in to the windage tray issue except that Milodon sells one to work with that 8 qt pan - and I am a believer in them. So, where is the oil going with all those giant wheelies I see on this sight???? Pump has to be sucking air for some period of time.
Fastest 300
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