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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: Triple Threat]
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The roads here are pure crap also, and I have learned to adjust my driving to them. You guys make up some good points about ground clearance, but that strange design at the back of the 7 quart pan just doesn't make sense to me, and as mentioned, not sure how that oil would ever drain out of the pan when changing the oil.
I actually did call Kevko about customizing the current pan. It would start at $75, plus shipping there and back...however, my biggest concern is capacity. I poured the kevko last night, and with 5 quarts it started to come out of the sump and into the rest of the pan. The most I could add in depth would be 1" (that would make it level with the milodon 8 quart) and not sure what I can do with kickouts since I want it to fit my TTI's. Kevko was really nice, but told me 1" will probably only net me 3/4 of a quart, not to mention I'll need a longer/custom pickup to now go the extra depth of the pan. I am leaning away from this option the more I think about it.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 07:08 PM
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nuther pic.
Flyfish's car and yours both look to have pretty good clearance in terms of how low the pan hangs..of course, the concern is bumps and suspension compressing.
I am not sure if the TTi's will be lower then the pan...I am like Mr. P, I like to use the headers to shield oil pan that way they are hit first and not a critical area like the oil pan instead.
Dustin, if you could take pictures of yours or measure tonight I would GREATLY appreciate it!
John, the canton in your duster, is that a center sump pan? Have a part # handy?
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 07:10 PM
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QUOTE - (and also having a raised rear portion behind the sump which seems strange to me as it might trap oil, but according to Milodon helps oil control?).
That bugs me, too. I have that pan on the shelf slated to go on my motor but even if it does control oil, the oil in that area will never get drained when changing it.
I just bought a Kevko 5 quart for a 340 I'm doing for someone and was actually considering it for my deal rather than the Milodon. I have heard from others about sucking that pan dry though with a high volume pump, so we're going with a standard volume pump with a small shim to gain some pressure.
Which pump did you run with your Kevko pan, might I ask?
I ran 5 quarts, with the filter and standard volume pumps with high pressure springs.
This past year I ran an HV pump, but I also had an external filter and lines that gave me another 2 quarts of oil capacity for a total of 7.
The kevko is a nice pan, but after pouring it, I wouldn't even say it holds 5 quarts. The guy at kevko told me you should only fill to the level plug, and that on my pan was just over 4 quarts when pouring it, so technically 5 in the pan is overfilling it.
Nice pan, but I definitely don't consider it a race piece
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 07:39 PM
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Canton Pan wont wont work in a stock suspension car.
I figured that...I was looking at that pan yesterday but ruled it out due to the front sump, but thought maybe John was using a different canton pan
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 07:51 PM
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Matt is running the wedge shaped Milidon pan on his Duster with his stock front suspension. I know he did some minor trimming to the K member and major work with a 4 pound hammer on the Hedmen headers.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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He is also using an engine plate but the engine is if I remember right in the stock position as he is using the stock tranny mount. I figured I better add this info.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 09:59 PM
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I ran my car for the first time last weekend with the Canton oil pan I bought from Summit. Its the same depth as the wedge shaped Milidon pan I rep[laced but I wouldn't of had to beat the crap out of my Headmen headers if I would have bought this one years ago.
Damn! I had no clue Canton made a SBM pan!! It looks like a better deal for the $$ than the Kevko piece. Maybe I don't want my Milodon pan. 
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 10:13 PM
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Canton Pan wont wont work in a stock suspension car.
I figured that...I was looking at that pan yesterday but ruled it out due to the front sump, but thought maybe John was using a different canton pan
What?? The Canton street/strip pan is a front sump yes, but so is every other pan out there for that app. Look at the Milodon, the Moroso and yes...the Kevko. The Canton pan looks to me like it will fit a OE K-member just fine. Probably better than the low-pro Milodon.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 10:36 PM
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Canton Pan wont wont work in a stock suspension car.
I figured that...I was looking at that pan yesterday but ruled it out due to the front sump, but thought maybe John was using a different canton pan
What?? The Canton street/strip pan is a front sump yes, but so is every other pan out there for that app. Look at the Milodon, the Moroso and yes...the Kevko. The Canton pan looks to me like it will fit a OE K-member just fine. Probably better than the low-pro Milodon.
I don't know man, thats why I asked...I don't want to buy it though and find out it doesn't work.
The moroso and milodon do look like front sump, but are listed as center sump, the canton is listed as front sump 
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 11:10 PM
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With a stock K most of the "off the shelf" pans are not going to offer a whole lot of volume changes being most are made with the available headers in mind. Basically the only place you are going to have room is straight down.... We ran the Milodon low pro pan on our 340 block based W5 mill when we ran the stock front suspension and I believe we were only running 5qts in that and never had any oiling issues.
I like the idea of "low pro", but check out the link below with the 360 degree view....I am just not a fan of how the low pro pan has a raised then lowered rear pan floor. Was your pan like this? Seems like a good way to trap oil and never have it get used again
http://www.summitracing.com/dom/parts/mil-30941/overview/
To be honest, I am sure 5 quarts of oil is probably enough. But more oil equals cooler oil (which i need with a half filled block on the street) as well as having sufficient oil quantity at higher rpms
After pouring the pan on my kevko I am just not impressed that 5 quarts ends up with oil coming out of the sump and sitting on the pan floor- not what I want with a big 4" arm swinging in there
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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04/30/14 11:21 PM
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Big 4"  Why not just run the same pan and an oil cooler? Rod
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