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Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: chris3] #160769
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Joe:
I spoke with Don, Jr. and Don's Family yesterday at the Southern Drag Expo/North Carolina Hall of Fame, in Greensboro. All are doing fine. We talked about your trip to Florida to see the Missle. Donnie said he bet that did bring a smile to your face and that you have a lot of memories of that car. He talked about your coming to visit him. We talked about Don and Clyde and the whole gang. Buddy Martin, Herb, Max Hurly, Roy Hill and the group were there.

We talked about this link on this site and his family has the information to get on and see some of the stories and all of the good comments on here about Don and the Missle.




Mike,

It sounds like your trip to Greensboro was a good one. I'm glad that you got a chance to see Don and the family. I think about them often and Lynn and I throughly enjoyed our visit with Don, him mom, and his sister Robin in the fall of 2005. That was another very special moment for me going back into the shop that I had not seen since the day of Donnie's funeral. It gave me a lump in the throat.

If Donnie were alive today he would be very proud of his son. Don has grown into a fine young man who works hard every day and does what it takes to provide for his family. We look forward to the next time we get an opportunity to head to NC and do more biking and visiting.


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Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: Mopar Missile JP] #160770
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Check out the Photo 2023391 and 2029953 in the thread More cool race cars.

Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: chris3] #160771
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Joe,

Can you put names to faces in this picture?

Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: KD800X] #160772
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Left to right sitting
Dick Oldfield - Len Bartush - Ron Killen - John Baumann - Tom Coddington - Al Adam

Behind car left to right
Don Carlton - Tom Hoover

Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: StewartP] #160773
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How many Mopar Missle Dusters are there??

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How many Mopar Missle Dusters are there??



1. It started off as a '72 and was converted to a '73.

Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: sixpakdodge] #160775
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there were 5 Missile cars - the original 70 - Challenger, transformed into a 71 - then the 72 Cuda and finally the 72 Duster transformed into the 73 - 3 cars but 5 examples

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with te 70 Challenger,72 Cuda were those body styles picked for engine bay room or public popularity?
what were there front frame progression starting with just inner fenders removed or streight to front half tube build?
what was used for tube bending?[floor mount manual bender?]

Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: blownzoom440] #160777
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with te 70 Challenger,72 Cuda were those body styles picked for engine bay room or public popularity?
what were there front frame progression starting with just inner fenders removed or streight to front half tube build?
what was used for tube bending?[floor mount manual bender?]




To the best of my knowledge, the Challenger and Cuda bodies were utilized because these were the cars that were considered the Chrysler high performance cars of the period. The hemi was available to the public in both body styles and it then became a perfect marketing tool.

The Challenger, Cuda, and the Duster utilized the front frame rail sections with the inner panels removed and replaced by removeable panels made from aluminum. Modified K members were used as well but by the time we built the Duster we utilized a Pinto rack and pinion steering rack in the modified K member.

Our round tubes in the chassis were always chrome moly. We did our bending with a Greenlee bender - a hydraulic unit. I don't know what Butler used to bend the tubes in the Duster but the Greenlee unit was real propular back then.


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Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: Mopar Missile JP] #160778
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so WHO has the original MISSLE DUSTER??..Is it raced and if so,whats it run now??

Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #160779
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so WHO has the original MISSLE DUSTER??..Is it raced and if so,whats it run now??




The original Duster is now owned by Ben Donhoff from Melbourne Florida. Earlier on in this thread there are some photos taken a couple of weekends ago where I was reunited with the car after 35 years. I believe that Ben has had a best pass of 7.83 @ 179mph with the car earlier this year at Orlando.


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Re: Official Joe Pappas Q & A Thread. **Joe's Da' MAN [Re: Mopar Missile JP] #160780
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Hey Joe, good seeing ya again. Got any funny stories about the brand-X guys? Particularly the Grump?? Dick was mentioning something about a midwest match-race.

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Hey Joe, good seeing ya again. Got any funny stories about the brand-X guys? Particularly the Grump?? Dick was mentioning something about a midwest match-race.




Mike,

This is the type of stuff that someone could write a book about... The best I can do right now is to take some of this stuff a little at a time.

When it comes to Jenkins, I'm not sure exactly what story Dick told, but my memories of him were that his nickname was very appropriate - 'da Grump. Jenkins' cars only looked really good the first day of the season. After that they went downhill. Dick and I took great pride in keeping the Missile pristine and so did a lot of other teams especially Sox, Landy, Grothier, Bagshaw, Vanke, etc. Jenkins - not so much...

One of the guys in brand X world that was really fun to race against was Nicholson. Don was absolutely a dedicated soul but you could most definitely rattle his cage. Carlton mamaged to convince Nicholson at Bristol one time that he (Carlton) was just going to get up to the tree and "leave" on Nicholson. Well, those two met in the final and poor old Nicholson starts pulling into the lights - lights up the top bulb and just flat takes off - RED LIGHT!!! We all got quite a laugh out of that!

There are a number of other stories that are probably left best untold if you know what I mean, but over the next couple of weeks I will try to gather up some of those old memories and post them here for everyone to get a few chuckles over.


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The restoration of the don carlton dart is underway

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