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triple purpose build questions #1605865 04/11/14 05:02 PM 04/11/14 05:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	70s dodge tradesman vans Is it easy to put a big block in one? Anyone know what they weigh? I want to build a van to take to drag week that can run 11.50s, tow my car, and have a bed in it with shag carpet Any and all opinions welcome Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605866 04/11/14 05:19 PM 04/11/14 05:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: 70s dodge tradesman vans Is it easy to put a big block in one? Anyone know what they weigh? I want to build a van to take to drag week that can run 11.50s, tow my car, and have a bed in it with shag carpet Any and all opinions welcome YOU are a pimp my man................. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605867 04/11/14 05:21 PM 04/11/14 05:21 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I bought a bare/gutting one in 76... that was about 3400#... 109wb... small block that I fixed up like your talking

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1605868 04/11/14 05:26 PM 04/11/14 05:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish master
bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	with the shag carpet add 359lbs,then mabey another 300 for big girls your going to attract.the big girls luvum some shag carpet.damhik. Last edited by bonefish; 04/11/14 05:27 PM.

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: bonefish] #1605869 04/11/14 05:30 PM 04/11/14 05:30 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,085 The Wet Coast, Canada megajoltman master
megajoltman master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,085 The Wet Coast, Canada	You will be it! 1969 Dart 383/727/D60 CTD Ram 4x4 Mega Cab Procharged 350Z

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: bonefish] #1605870 04/11/14 05:34 PM 04/11/14 05:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Ok, the guy that lets me know what needs to be done to stuff a low block in a van gets a picture of a girl tied up in the van that weighs under 150 Anyone that donates a stroker small block can tie her up Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605871 04/11/14 05:49 PM 04/11/14 05:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!! 3 340RICK master
340RICK master 3 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!!	You are making me want to attend drag week

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605872 04/11/14 07:02 PM 04/11/14 07:02 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 198 Chester, VA tobnHisglory member
tobnHisglory member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 198 Chester, VA	Wow, lets keep it clean guys. I like the idea of the build, but please spare us the comments about girls tied up in the back...

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: tobnHisglory] #1605873 04/11/14 07:04 PM 04/11/14 07:04 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 198 Chester, VA tobnHisglory member
tobnHisglory member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 198 Chester, VA	I use to have a van similar to that. It was called a "camper special" but it was a cough cough cheby. Small block, tow rig, with a bed and fridge in the back. Couldn't run 11.50's though. That would be really doing something.

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: tobnHisglory] #1605874 04/11/14 07:55 PM 04/11/14 07:55 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Wallace says 500hp to get 4000 lbs 11.50s. I think it can be done and still be mild mannered. Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: tobnHisglory] #1605875 04/11/14 07:59 PM 04/11/14 07:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 760 Canada C CTD5.9 super stock
CTD5.9 super stock C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 760 Canada	Just find a 76-78 with a big block, the 400 and 440's were options. An old motorhome would also provide you with the right brackets and mounts I think

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: CTD5.9] #1605876 04/11/14 08:09 PM 04/11/14 08:09 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: Just find a 76-78 with a big block, the 400 and 440's were options. An old motorhome would also provide you with the right brackets and mounts I think I found a nice 79 for low dough. If i could find a nice van with a BB i would be it insted Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605877 04/11/14 08:28 PM 04/11/14 08:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Quote: Wallace says 500hp to get 4000 lbs 11.50s. I think it can be done and still be mild mannered. I'm thinking thats gotta be RWHP, which means you're gonna have to make 600 or more..... Mild Mannered??? Making a van go 11.50's is one thing. That same van also being able to tow a 5000 lbs?? You are talking about two completely opposite ends of the performance sprectrum. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it done, but my guess is it would cover one hell of a budget! LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605878 04/11/14 08:51 PM 04/11/14 08:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,936 Holly/MI D Dean_Kuzluzski master
Dean_Kuzluzski master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,936 Holly/MI	Just sold an oil pan and eng. brkts last jan. at the WPC swapmeet here in Det. I think I got about $30 total on that stuff. You might want to consider a 4" stroker smallblock and automatic w/OD. R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: StealthWedge67] #1605879 04/11/14 09:06 PM 04/11/14 09:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: Quote: Wallace says 500hp to get 4000 lbs 11.50s. I think it can be done and still be mild mannered. I'm thinking thats gotta be RWHP, which means you're gonna have to make 600 or more..... Mild Mannered??? Making a van go 11.50's is one thing. That same van also being able to tow a 5000 lbs?? You are talking about two completely opposite ends of the performance sprectrum. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it done, but my guess is it would cover one hell of a budget! Wallace says it takes 607 hp for my 3150 lb car to run 10.08 and its mild mannered, 15" vacuum at idle. I drive it all over I have a 470 sitting on the floor. If it fits it ships Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605880 04/11/14 09:32 PM 04/11/14 09:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	If you want a real dual purpose cruiser/screamer, how about a stroker motor with a supercharger? A 550 hp build will idle like a kitten and pull a big load without going crazy with cam, etc. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: gregsdart] #1605881 04/11/14 11:56 PM 04/11/14 11:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ M MoparBilly master
MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	Ray, Seriously, the easiest way is a mild low comp engine, then a 175hp hit of nitrous on a big shot plate. Going this route will allow for a tight converter and mild gear, which will be essential to towing. This guy runs the local brackets here in Phoenix, runs low 11's with a 440. 8109470-PinkVan.png (99 downloads) "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MoparBilly] #1605882 04/12/14 12:31 AM 04/12/14 12:31 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Quote: Ray, Seriously, the easiest way is a mild low comp engine, then a 175hp hit of nitrous on a big shot plate. Going this route will allow for a tight converter and mild gear, which will be essential to towing. This guy runs the local brackets here in Phoenix, runs low 11's with a 440. Well, there's your evidence that an RB block can go into a Tradesman. If it fits, a low-deck should be a little easier. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: StealthWedge67] #1605883 04/12/14 12:46 AM 04/12/14 12:46 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,159 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,159 CT	Build a stroker with stock port window aluminum heads and I think you can do it for sure. Look at BSB67s '67 Charger, he's well in the 11s with a stock torque converter, 3.23s, and manifolds as I recall and his car is HEAVY. Talk to him Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MoparBilly] #1605884 04/12/14 12:47 AM 04/12/14 12:47 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: Ray, Seriously, the easiest way is a mild low comp engine, then a 175hp hit of nitrous on a big shot plate. Going this route will allow for a tight converter and mild gear, which will be essential to towing. This guy runs the local brackets here in Phoenix, runs low 11's with a 440. That is the what i was thinking also. I am getting excited thinking about this project. Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: GTX MATT] #1605885 04/12/14 12:51 AM 04/12/14 12:51 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: Build a stroker with stock port window aluminum heads and I think you can do it for sure. Look at BSB67s '67 Charger, he's well in the 11s with a stock torque converter, 3.23s, and manifolds as I recall and his car is HEAVY. Talk to him Yes, his car runs real good. I think I can piece this together on the cheap Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: StealthWedge67] #1605886 04/12/14 01:02 AM 04/12/14 01:02 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 83 washington B Bruce member
Bruce member B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 83 washington	I had a 1977 b200 Tradesman. The big block was an option so Chrysler made motor mounts for it. I bought the motor mounts from the local dealer. I dropped the engine and tranny out the bottom. Took the suspension apart, lowered the van down to just off a furniture dolly, unbolted everything and then jacked the van up high enough to roll the engine and tranny out. Cleaned up the cross member and repainted it. bolted the 440 to it and rolled it back under the van with the tranny bolted up. I was only able to get it in with one header on. Put the other one on with the engine in. I adjusted the 318 throttle linkage and kick down linkage bending, etc. to get it to work. Really a pretty easy swap and surprises a lot of people when they get beat by my family room on wheels. I did this over 20 years ago, so I don't know if you can still get the engine mounts new. Also, the rear end is marginal as we broke some spider gears in ours. Hope this helps.

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Bruce] #1605887 04/12/14 02:00 AM 04/12/14 02:00 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,558 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,558 Downtown Roebuck Ont	My 8.97:1 493 does 500hp 600 ft/lbs with RPM heads and an MP509 on 87 regular. For what you want to do I would put more cylinder head on my shortblock and as much hyd cam as I could put in it and still live with a 25-2800 converter. Something around 114 LSA with .600ish lift. This should make for a nice no maintenance mid 5000 to low 6000 rpm combo that can go coast to coast for 100,000 plus miles and do it on reg gas for the most part. Mine makes over 500 ft/lbs from 2000 on with the MP509 and it was quite happy to pull the stock converter but the power brakes and EFI didn't care for the less than 10" of vac and the 1100 rpm idle was banging the crap out of the driveline. I put in a 2800 advertised TA converter and now it's easier on the driveline but harder on the tires. And then there is always the boost option. Cake and eat it too. Kevin

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Twostick] #1605888 04/12/14 08:52 AM 04/12/14 08:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Another option to help your project might be a newer 727 with a lockup converter. There are companies that build converters for them with more than one lockup disc for hi hp apps. On the cam, I don't agree with a wide lobe separation for a low end torque build. It hurts both ends of the power range when you don't have big heads and valves for the cubes, and stroked 440s are hurting there. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: gregsdart] #1605889 04/12/14 09:29 AM 04/12/14 09:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	I was thinking maybe a 8.8 rear out of an explorer for the van if its wide enough Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605890 04/12/14 10:06 AM 04/12/14 10:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	are you going through a middle age crisis? can you imagine the fuel cost to pull a race car in an 11 second van.

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605891 04/12/14 10:11 AM 04/12/14 10:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	here you go, this is like the one I bought. wont run 11 seconds but make your life a whole lot easier.and probably cost about the same time you are done http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/rvs/4417809245.html

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Quicktree] #1605892 04/12/14 10:11 AM 04/12/14 10:11 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: are you going through a middle age crisis? can you imagine the fuel cost to pull a race car in an 11 second van. Think i should put a diesel in it? I was thinking about that Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605893 04/12/14 10:22 AM 04/12/14 10:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: Quote: are you going through a middle age crisis? can you imagine the fuel cost to pull a race car in an 11 second van. Think i should put a diesel in it? I was thinking about that well you could turn it up and run 11 seconds and still be reliable. not a bad idea

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Quicktree] #1605894 04/12/14 12:36 PM 04/12/14 12:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ M MoparBilly master
MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	I guarantee that a hopped up 440 Tradesman will get better fuel mileage than that Monaco diesel pusher! Pretty hard for Ray to go through a mid-life crisis when he is perpetually 19. 'nother pic... 8109861-1558572_10201730172645198_1157043323908879707_n.jpg (80 downloads) "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MoparBilly] #1605895 04/12/14 12:38 PM 04/12/14 12:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: I guarantee that a hopped up 440 Tradesman will get better fuel mileage than that Monaco diesel pusher! Pretty hard for Ray to go through a mid-life crisis when he is perpetually 19. 'nother pic... I doubt it, mine gets around 10mpg, haven't pulled the trailer yet but friends have told me they get the same with or without the trailer. plus it's a heck of a lot nicer to sleep in a bed and not on shag but Ray is a little kinky I heard

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605896 04/12/14 12:59 PM 04/12/14 12:59 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: are you going through a middle age crisis? can you imagine the fuel cost to pull a race car in an 11 second van. Think i should put a diesel in it? I was thinking about that You dont want a diesel in the front of a van... they are nose heavy already and a diesel would KILL all of the front end parts... even if you could find springs strong enough to keep it up

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1605897 04/12/14 01:06 PM 04/12/14 01:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: Quote: Quote: are you going through a middle age crisis? can you imagine the fuel cost to pull a race car in an 11 second van. Think i should put a diesel in it? I was thinking about that You dont want a diesel in the front of a van... they are nose heavy already and a diesel would KILL all of the front end parts... even if you could find springs strong enough to keep it up couldn't be that much heavier than a 440, how much do they weigh?

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Quicktree] #1605898 04/12/14 01:31 PM 04/12/14 01:31 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 83 washington B Bruce member
Bruce member B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 83 washington	Our old 440 van gets around 10 mpg on the road and about the same towing my son's Challenger on an open trailer, 391 posi rear. There are lots of danas out of pickups if you want a stronger rear end. Width would probably be in the ball park, There is a lot of room under the van for turbos, use alcohol injection and you have beast. Better get a better drive shaft too. you could add a gear vendors overdrive. Also, these old vans steer like an old mopar...plenty of slop in the wheel. My son still has my old 77 van and they are a very practical vehicle. We can move a lot of things without worrying if it will rain. Being in the northwest rain in a big factor. Last edited by Bruce; 04/12/14 01:35 PM.

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Quicktree] #1605899 04/12/14 01:51 PM 04/12/14 01:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: are you going through a middle age crisis? can you imagine the fuel cost to pull a race car in an 11 second van. Think i should put a diesel in it? I was thinking about that You dont want a diesel in the front of a van... they are nose heavy already and a diesel would KILL all of the front end parts... even if you could find springs strong enough to keep it up couldn't be that much heavier than a 440, how much do they weigh? We built up a slant six diesel and put it in a van about a 78 drove real nice and got great mileage and had all the towing power you would need... but that was a one off diesel and much lighter than a Cummins

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1605900 04/12/14 02:08 PM 04/12/14 02:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	I doubt a cummins is 200lbs heavier than a 440 if that much. my dually is not that much heavier than a regular truck

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Quicktree] #1605901 04/12/14 02:15 PM 04/12/14 02:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Cummins 6BT weighs 1100 pounds. R.

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: dogdays] #1605902 04/12/14 02:18 PM 04/12/14 02:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: Cummins 6BT weighs 1100 pounds. R. motor trans an all? or just the motor?

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605903 04/12/14 02:25 PM 04/12/14 02:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,814 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,814 Kirkland, Washington	Quote: 70s dodge tradesman vans Is it easy to put a big block in one? Anyone know what they weigh? I want to build a van to take to drag week that can run 11.50s, tow my car, and have a bed in it with shag carpet Any and all opinions welcome Call it "Coming Fast". I dare ya...

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Quicktree] #1605904 04/12/14 08:39 PM 04/12/14 08:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,018 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,018 Tulsa OK	Quote: Quote: Cummins 6BT weighs 1100 pounds. R. motor trans an all? or just the motor? Motor and accessories....dry. Typical diesel ram sits with about 4000lbs on the front axle. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Bad340fish] #1605905 04/13/14 05:01 PM 04/13/14 05:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Billy, those chinese aluminum heads you got, can you buy them not ported by dr j i believe you bought them from?? Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: Bad340fish] #1605906 04/13/14 06:51 PM 04/13/14 06:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Look for a Cummins 4bt with an inline pump. That would be my all time fav diesel swap candidate into old iron. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: 72Swinger] #1605907 04/13/14 07:30 PM 04/13/14 07:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit OUTLAWD top fuel
OUTLAWD top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit	Quote: Look for a Cummins 4bt with an inline pump. That would be my all time fav diesel swap candidate into old iron. I was going to suggest this, but it doesn't look like many are making enough reliable power to push a brick into the 11's Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death... 71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts 66 Belv. II - just a streetcar 88 Mustang - turbo LS beater

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1605908 04/14/14 02:39 AM 04/14/14 02:39 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 198 Chester, VA tobnHisglory member
tobnHisglory member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 198 Chester, VA	Mr P Body, I would love to hear more details about that slant 6 diesel conversion. That is a build thread I would love to see. Was this something you did recently? Please tell me you have pictures. -Reggie tobnHisglory2000@aol.com Former Mopars: 73 Charger - 440/727, 68 D200 Camper Special 383/727, 67 Satellite, 71 Superbee, 73 RoadRunner,2009 Ram Quad Cab Hemi 4x4 Current Mopars: 2005 Ram Quad Cab Hemi 4x4, 73 Cuda FE5 318 manual

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605909 04/14/14 09:49 AM 04/14/14 09:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Quote: I was thinking maybe a 8.8 rear out of an explorer for the van if its wide enough If you research it, there is a very narrow 8.8 out of a special option Ranger that comes with the 31 spline axles, discs,posi, and good gear ratios from the factory. They are rare, but come about 56.5 wheel mount to wheel mount. The regular Explorers rears come with Discs, posi, a good selection of gears and are 59.5 wide. I have one under a 1965 dart with 2006 Mustang GT optional 18x8.5 rims and tires, with only a spring relocate. If you go this route, grab everything that you can off the donating vehicle. The companion flange, the bolts that hold it on, and the brake lines, two from the pass side. Take a look at the axles where the seals run, those are prone to wear and leak, but can be fixed with relocate bearings available. The pinion seal can be fixed with a thin repair sleeve that slides over the damaged area. Pull the rear cover and look for rust as well to make sure it didn't get damaged from rust. If you buy it right, this is about as good a deal on a rear axle swap as there is. 8111833-psca12-1007-1.jpg (50 downloads) Last edited by gregsdart; 04/14/14 09:56 AM. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: tobnHisglory] #1605910 04/14/14 10:14 AM 04/14/14 10:14 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mr P Body, I would love to hear more details about that slant 6 diesel conversion. That is a build thread I would love to see. Was this something you did recently? Please tell me you have pictures. I was working for Chrysler and they built it up for a lighter weight diesel... but that project was dropped

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MoparBilly] #1605911 04/14/14 10:34 AM 04/14/14 10:34 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar master
OhioMopar master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Same van? 8111870-IMG_4121208881988.jpeg (60 downloads) 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605912 04/14/14 11:28 AM 04/14/14 11:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ M MoparBilly master
MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	Quote: Billy, those chinese aluminum heads you got, can you buy them not ported by dr j i believe you bought them from?? The small block "Air Wolf" heads are the Pro Comp casting which come in at 170CCs unported, 191ccs with Pro Comp's CNC job, and 220ccs with Dr J's porting. "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MoparBilly] #1605913 04/14/14 07:01 PM 04/14/14 07:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Weight on the title says 3300 lbs. The van i'm buying is longer than that pink one. I will be bringing it home tomorrow Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605914 06/17/14 12:20 AM 06/17/14 12:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Some pics 8178545-0415141711.jpg (76 downloads) Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605915 06/17/14 12:22 AM 06/17/14 12:22 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	8178548-0503141135e.jpg (35 downloads) Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605916 06/17/14 12:27 AM 06/17/14 12:27 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	8178554-0615142052.jpg (45 downloads) Last edited by sixpackgut; 06/17/14 12:30 AM. Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605917 06/17/14 12:32 AM 06/17/14 12:32 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	8178558-0615141323.jpg (38 downloads) Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605918 06/17/14 12:33 AM 06/17/14 12:33 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Bar 8178560-0614142041a.jpg (45 downloads) Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605919 06/17/14 12:35 AM 06/17/14 12:35 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	I need a 408 now Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605920 06/17/14 07:43 AM 06/17/14 07:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	awesome, better make sure none of the booze is open

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605921 06/17/14 11:37 AM 06/17/14 11:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,351 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
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