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Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's #1588738
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Are any of you guys still running any vintage Ed Hamburger parts that he sold during the 1970's and 1980's for the 340/360??

Any pics of his old oil pans for the small block Mopar? What made them special?

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1588739
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I believe he was the first Mopar source to sell trick/custom parts in volume to Mopar racers. I use to buy quite a bit from him back then. I don't have any pics, but do have a couple of his old catalogs. That's where I first learned about crank scrapers, modified windage trays and more.

Moparts member "Topside" has an ex-Hamburger team car (Super Stock Duster, I believe) and likely a lot more info on the cars & parts.

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1588740
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One reason I started building my own parts was because the parts I bought from Hamburger were such poor quality. I looked at those parts and the price I paid for them and decided I could do better. That was a long time ago but it is one of the things that started me down the path of designing and building my own stuff.

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1588741
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I still have a set of Hamburger's "stocker" leaf springs,and a few other items.


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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: Chris2581] #1588742
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Got a hamburger deep sump pan...needs a little repair ..have had it since 80s...

got a few small parts with his part numbers still on them...harden washers...5/64 4.07 ring set..probably reboxed sealed power rings..

and .984 tool steel 80 gram wrist pins..after buying them in the 80s finally put them in a engine last year...


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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: AndyF] #1588743
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One reason I started building my own parts was because the parts I bought from Hamburger were such poor quality.



Sounds like the same reason I switched to assembling my own engines after paying "professionals" to do the work and still experiencing issues that IMO could have been avoided.

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: BradH] #1588744
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I have one of the adjustable timing gears for an A engine. I was always scared to put it on though.

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: DavidDean] #1588745
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A bunch of us got the distributor stablizer (the collar with set screw to prevent the oil pump drive bouncing up and down changing timing conditions. Still have it, and lost count the number of motors it's been in.


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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: Slingshot383] #1588746
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A bunch of us got the distributor stablizer (the collar with set screw to prevent the oil pump drive bouncing up and down changing timing conditions. Still have it, and lost count the number of motors it's been in.




Do you think it helped?

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: AndyF] #1588747
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One reason I started building my own parts was because the parts I bought from Hamburger were such poor quality. I looked at those parts and the price I paid for them and decided I could do better. That was a long time ago but it is one of the things that started me down the path of designing and building my own stuff.




We still have some of their overpriced stuff in the attic.Some of their oil pan designs are good for lawn sprinklers and some of their internal parts are great for comming apart and causing engine failres.

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1588748
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I bought the street/strip oil pan for a 340. The pan fit well and did not hang down very far past the K-member. I think it was a 6 qt and had accel/decel baffles. I have a pic somewhere. If you want, I can post later tonight. Also, bought tool steel lightweight wrist pins. Tried to order parts after they moved to Wirtz, VA, but did not have much luck. I think whoever he sold the business to kept the name, but the service and tech dept was lousy. Still have an old performance catalog from the '80s.

John

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: DusterW2] #1588749
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Ironically not much of his stuff is still on my/his car; what's there is mostly "extra-legal" fab tricks. The car with the most cleverness (and success) is the old Hamburger, Bachelder & Chipman car. Herb McCandless did a lot of work on some of the cars - HBC & Ed's/mine for sure.
Judging by my archive of the team cars and team members, Ed's strength was in thinking up ways to step up the SB. I can't say much about the 340/360 Only parts, as so few are around. Much if not all of that stuff was 1st run on my car or the other team cars. After he sold the Hamburger company, the guys that bought it were apparently pretty bad at quality & service from what I've heard.

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: topside] #1588750
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I bought his stuff years ago, thought that sb windage tray with the extra louvers was a good idea

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: DusterW2] #1588751
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I bought the street/strip oil pan for a 340. The pan fit well and did not hang down very far past the K-member. I think it was a 6 qt and had accel/decel baffles. I have a pic somewhere. If you want, I can post later tonight. Also, bought tool steel lightweight wrist pins. Tried to order parts after they moved to Wirtz, VA, but did not have much luck. I think whoever he sold the business to kept the name, but the service and tech dept was lousy. Still have an old performance catalog from the '80s.

John




If you can post up a pic of the street/strip oil pan, that would be great!

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1588752
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a year ago at a swap meet in milwaukee i bought a welded sheet aluminium oil pan for my 470. the seller said it was a ed hamburger unit but there were no markings or tags. i did a web search but the closest pan i found was one that 440 source had that was kind of like it. seems he did alot of cheby stuff. i cleaned it up and had the external pick up hole welded up then knocked in two holes for a swinging pick up. i may use it, maybe not...

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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: slax69gts] #1588753
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here's a rb pan

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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: sixpacksteve] #1588754
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Not knocking anyones product but simply recalling old issues that we seen with some of their parts ie:
Distributer shaft stabalizers that fell apart and cause major internal engine damage.

Oil pans that leaked like lawn sprinklers at seams and welds.

Crank scrapers and windage trays that cracked and caused internal damage as well as crank and rod interference..

Pan rails and bolt holes alignment and placement.


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340 Ed Hamburger oil pan from 1989 -

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Not knocking anyones product but simply recalling old issues that we seen with some of their parts ie:
Distributer shaft stabalizers that fell apart and cause major internal engine damage.

Oil pans that leaked like lawn sprinklers at seams and welds.

Crank scrapers and windage trays that cracked and caused internal damage as well as crank and rod interference..

Pan rails and bolt holes alignment and placement.






Had one of his aluminum 340 pans, with the tube for the center link. Had a pickup and plate that bolted directly onto the oil pump, after removing the rotor cover. First fire up on a new motor, the rotors bound up against the pickup plate,locking the oil pump and shearing the pin in the distributor drive. Needless to say that pan and pickup came right out.

Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's [Re: B G Racing] #1588757
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Not knocking anyones product but simply recalling old issues that we seen with some of their parts ie:
Distributer shaft stabalizers that fell apart and cause major internal engine damage.

Oil pans that leaked like lawn sprinklers at seams and welds.

Crank scrapers and windage trays that cracked and caused internal damage as well as crank and rod interference..

Pan rails and bolt holes alignment and placement.






Thanks for the reality check...lol. Did they make any good parts??

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