Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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I still have a set of Hamburger's "stocker" leaf springs,and a few other items.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Got a hamburger deep sump pan...needs a little repair ..have had it since 80s...
got a few small parts with his part numbers still on them...harden washers...5/64 4.07 ring set..probably reboxed sealed power rings..
and .984 tool steel 80 gram wrist pins..after buying them in the 80s finally put them in a engine last year...
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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One reason I started building my own parts was because the parts I bought from Hamburger were such poor quality.
Sounds like the same reason I switched to assembling my own engines after paying "professionals" to do the work and still experiencing issues that IMO could have been avoided.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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A bunch of us got the distributor stablizer (the collar with set screw to prevent the oil pump drive bouncing up and down changing timing conditions. Still have it, and lost count the number of motors it's been in.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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A bunch of us got the distributor stablizer (the collar with set screw to prevent the oil pump drive bouncing up and down changing timing conditions. Still have it, and lost count the number of motors it's been in.
Do you think it helped?
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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One reason I started building my own parts was because the parts I bought from Hamburger were such poor quality. I looked at those parts and the price I paid for them and decided I could do better. That was a long time ago but it is one of the things that started me down the path of designing and building my own stuff.
We still have some of their overpriced stuff in the attic.Some of their oil pan designs are good for lawn sprinklers and some of their internal parts are great for comming apart and causing engine failres.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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I bought the street/strip oil pan for a 340. The pan fit well and did not hang down very far past the K-member. I think it was a 6 qt and had accel/decel baffles. I have a pic somewhere. If you want, I can post later tonight. Also, bought tool steel lightweight wrist pins. Tried to order parts after they moved to Wirtz, VA, but did not have much luck. I think whoever he sold the business to kept the name, but the service and tech dept was lousy. Still have an old performance catalog from the '80s.
John
If you can post up a pic of the street/strip oil pan, that would be great!
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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a year ago at a swap meet in milwaukee i bought a welded sheet aluminium oil pan for my 470. the seller said it was a ed hamburger unit but there were no markings or tags. i did a web search but the closest pan i found was one that 440 source had that was kind of like it. seems he did alot of cheby stuff. i cleaned it up and had the external pick up hole welded up then knocked in two holes for a swinging pick up. i may use it, maybe not...
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Not knocking anyones product but simply recalling old issues that we seen with some of their parts ie: Distributer shaft stabalizers that fell apart and cause major internal engine damage. Oil pans that leaked like lawn sprinklers at seams and welds. Crank scrapers and windage trays that cracked and caused internal damage as well as crank and rod interference.. Pan rails and bolt holes alignment and placement.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Not knocking anyones product but simply recalling old issues that we seen with some of their parts ie: Distributer shaft stabalizers that fell apart and cause major internal engine damage.
Oil pans that leaked like lawn sprinklers at seams and welds.
Crank scrapers and windage trays that cracked and caused internal damage as well as crank and rod interference..
Pan rails and bolt holes alignment and placement.
Had one of his aluminum 340 pans, with the tube for the center link. Had a pickup and plate that bolted directly onto the oil pump, after removing the rotor cover. First fire up on a new motor, the rotors bound up against the pickup plate,locking the oil pump and shearing the pin in the distributor drive. Needless to say that pan and pickup came right out.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Not knocking anyones product but simply recalling old issues that we seen with some of their parts ie: Distributer shaft stabalizers that fell apart and cause major internal engine damage.
Oil pans that leaked like lawn sprinklers at seams and welds.
Crank scrapers and windage trays that cracked and caused internal damage as well as crank and rod interference..
Pan rails and bolt holes alignment and placement.
Thanks for the reality check...lol. Did they make any good parts??
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Not knocking anyones product but simply recalling old issues that we seen with some of their parts ie: Distributer shaft stabalizers that fell apart and cause major internal engine damage.
Oil pans that leaked like lawn sprinklers at seams and welds.
Crank scrapers and windage trays that cracked and caused internal damage as well as crank and rod interference..
Pan rails and bolt holes alignment and placement.
Thanks for the reality check...lol. Did they make any good parts??
They had a lot of good ideas and intentions and marketing stragity but execution of the final products and uses were weak. The oil pump plate/rotor kits and pickups as well as other oil system mods created more problems than answers.Like many others they outsourced their mfg and put their name on it with out much quality control.Like a lot of successfull racers and engine builders even today use their name to promote,sale and profit on product marketing.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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A stable of fast cars and an incredible line of BS was his formula for success.
It's Efective Name Reconigition Marketing Strategy ,marketing economics Class 101. Do something notable,affix you name to it and sale it.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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340 Ed Hamburger oil pan from 1989 - Hey DusterW2, Been searching for info on these old pans and cam across your post. I have that oil pan on a 69 340 that was in my Cuda when I purchased it. The dip stick was hand scored for the oil level. When changing the oil, it takes over 8 quarts to get to the dip stick marks. Do you know what capacity or what was run in the engine in the photos? The pans I see on the market now are 7qt. I'm concerned about too much oil and causing windage. Thanks,
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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340 Ed Hamburger oil pan from 1989 - Hey DusterW2, Been searching for info on these old pans and cam across your post. I have that oil pan on a 69 340 that was in my Cuda when I purchased it. The dip stick was hand scored for the oil level. When changing the oil, it takes over 8 quarts to get to the dip stick marks. Do you know what capacity or what was run in the engine in the photos? The pans I see on the market now are 7qt. I'm concerned about too much oil and causing windage. Thanks, Easy enough to check on the bench with some water and an empty quart bottle or measuring cup. Hamburger was pretty much the go to place for small block stuff back in the day. The quality of the stuff was hit or miss and the guys in Virginia later on were ridiculous. There are still a few companies around operating today that he started, but I expect he's retired on a beach somewhere.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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One reason I started building my own parts was because the parts I bought from Hamburger were such poor quality. I looked at those parts and the price I paid for them and decided I could do better. That was a long time ago but it is one of the things that started me down the path of designing and building my own stuff. Do you make a crank scraper for a small block?
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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My Ford buddy owned the speed shop that sponsored me back in the 1970’s and I loved the intake gasket sealer Ed sold. My buddy ordered it and when it came he peeled the sticker off the can. It was relabeled Ford intake sealer. Lol. Man he never let me forget that.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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My Ford buddy owned the speed shop that sponsored me back in the 1970’s and I loved the intake gasket sealer Ed sold. My buddy ordered it and when it came he peeled the sticker off the can. It was relabeled Ford intake sealer. Lol. Man he never let me forget that. And dont forget that he pretty much took the whole Direct Connection line and placed it in his catalog replacing the DC part numbers with his part numbers. You ordered “his” cam and got a DC cam in the box.
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Re: Ed Hamburger Vintage Parts from the 1970's & 1980's
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Back in the day (mid 70's) I had a pair of his stocker springs on a 69 Swinger that worked very well. I've always wondered who made them. Anybody know?
Thanks Randy Direct Connection. He just changed the bottom leaf to get rid of the part number.
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