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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: WadeMetzinger]
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07/01/14 05:43 PM
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Where are you putting them in at exactly?
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: WadeMetzinger]
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07/01/14 06:02 PM
07/01/14 06:02 PM
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If they go in at the back of the galley under the bell housing, isn't it a pain the change them out if you need to adjust them?
Greg ----------------------------------------------------------------- Cost is irrelevant, making memories is far more valuable!
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: Airwoofer]
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07/01/14 06:33 PM
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Push rod oiling.
Original B1's with paired rockers.
Greg ----------------------------------------------------------------- Cost is irrelevant, making memories is far more valuable!
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: Airwoofer]
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07/02/14 11:09 AM
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Another way of doing the same thing I think.
The KB block has a separate oil gallery going to the main bearings first (priority). The restrictors keep high pressure/flow to the main bearings, while reducing pressure/flow to the lifter galleries (lifters, pushrod oiling to the heads). I don't think the lifter galleries are even drilled on most KB blocks, you have to buy that option (I did for pushrod oiling to the heads).
When my block arrives, I will check; but I believe the restrictors allow full pressure to the ports on the rear/top of the block and only reduce pressure to the lifter galleries.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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07/02/14 12:00 PM
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Another way of doing the same thing I think.
The KB block has a separate oil gallery going to the main bearings first (priority). The restrictors keep high pressure/flow to the main bearings, while reducing pressure/flow to the lifter galleries (lifters, pushrod oiling to the heads). I don't think the lifter galleries are even drilled on most KB blocks, you have to buy that option (I did for pushrod oiling to the heads).
When my block arrives, I will check; but I believe the restrictors allow full pressure to the ports on the rear/top of the block and only reduce pressure to the lifter galleries.
I ordered mine for push rod oiling.
So when you talked to Ken yesterday, did he give you an ETA? Or did he just say that it will be started this week? We will lose a day this week because of the 4th too.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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07/02/14 02:05 PM
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When my block arrives, I will check; but I believe the restrictors allow full pressure to the ports on the rear/top of the block and only reduce pressure to the lifter galleries.
Jim, I can confirm this. The restrictors go in past the main oil passage so they won't impact the ports on the rear/top of the block.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: WadeMetzinger]
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07/02/14 04:19 PM
07/02/14 04:19 PM
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If you need to adjust the oil flow, isn't it a pain in the a##?
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 1320Dart]
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07/03/14 01:15 PM
07/03/14 01:15 PM
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So when you talked to Ken yesterday, did he give you an ETA? Or did he just say that it will be started this week? We will lose a day this week because of the 4th too.
No delivery date. He said he expected to get the 1st and 2nd machining operations done this week and get the block to the other shop to gun drill the lifter galleries no later then Monday. Then back to his shop for finish machining, including the lifter bores.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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07/08/14 11:16 AM
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So when you talked to Ken yesterday, did he give you an ETA? Or did he just say that it will be started this week? We will lose a day this week because of the 4th too.
No delivery date. He said he expected to get the 1st and 2nd machining operations done this week and get the block to the other shop to gun drill the lifter galleries no later then Monday. Then back to his shop for finish machining, including the lifter bores.
440Jim-
How goes the build?
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: jyrki]
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07/08/14 11:39 AM
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Those restrictors have been used in chevys for a long time and are readily available from several sources. I have used them in pushrod oiled mopars before, only needs minor modifications to make the chevy stuff work. http://www.summitracing.com/dom/parts/sum-120120/overview/
As stated above, been used since the beginning of time in Chevies. Its a simple deal. There ARE several different version of them, so be careful if re-ordering. There are early and late style ( depends on the Chevy block). There are different thread version as well. I would suggest getting some extra o-rings for them, as they do have a tendancy to rip or tear coming in and out. No biggie, just keep some spares on hand.Make sure if this happens, you get your little dental pick and get ALL of the oring out. Some are internal hex drive, others are external hex. Your preference. MAKE SURE you lube up the o-ring before installing, and usually a gentle twisting turning motion to help the oring seat.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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07/09/14 02:37 AM
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OK, I thought I would take a little time to send some photos that I just took tonight of Greg's and Jim's blocks. I tried to do this just a little bit ago but the photos caused my post to crash so I will give it another try. Greg just a final inspection and waiting on our CORE PLUGS from our vendor, they are about two months late but I was told that they shipped today. Jim, Block is back from gun drill and Tom is just about finished with the sleeves for your Low Deck 440 so it is almost ready for final operations. I will call both of you with more detailed information tomorrow. Ken  Not having much luck posting all of the photos so I guess I will have to post one at a time.
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